God is not a laundry service that wash your sins in two hours and then you become clean and fragrant.

[JimmyB]

6 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Then what kind of a tree the bible says it is? 

It's fruit gave death to Adam...

 

I repeat: there is no "tree of death" in the Bible, specifically in the orchard of Eden.  Two trees are specifically mentioned: a) the tree of life and b) the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.  Genesis 2:9, "Out of the ground the Lord God made to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight and good for food, the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil."  NRSVue

[Your closest friendnt]

6 minutes ago, JimmyB said:

I repeat: there is no "tree of death" in the Bible, specifically in the orchard of Eden.  Two trees are specifically mentioned: a) the tree of life and b) the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.  Genesis 2:9, "Out of the ground the Lord God made to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight and good for food, the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil."  NRSVue

 

Through one man Adam we all die..

Death travel from Adam to all the people by birth...

What Adam had after he ate from the forbidden fruit he pass it on to his children and so on. 

And that was death...which is that at the time of their death, they were not gathered to God...hope you understand that from the scriptures about Abel, when God said that Abel is not gathered to him... 

What the bible say it happened to him at the time of his death, who was there to take him? 

 

[JimmyB]

21 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

 

Through one man Adam we all die..

Death travel from Adam to all the people by birth...

What Adam had after he ate from the forbidden fruit he pass it on to his children and so on. 

And that was death...which is that at the time of their death, they were not gathered to God...hope you understand that from the scriptures about Abel, when God said that Abel is not gathered to him... 

What the bible say it happened to him at the time of his death, who was there to take him? 

 

Agreed.  But again, there is no "tree of death" in Scripture.

[Your closest friendnt]

4 minutes ago, JimmyB said:

Agreed.  But again, there is no "tree of death" in Scripture.

What do you call Adam..his children the fruit of his tree were born in death...because Adam's seed had death..

Adam was a tree of death.

Edited September 15, 2022 by Your closest friendnt

[JimmyB]

48 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

What do you call Adam..his children the fruit of his tree were born in death...because Adam's seed had death..

Adam was a tree of death.

Adam was a man, not a tree!  Stop reinventing Scripture.  There were two trees mentioned in Eden: the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and the tree of live.  Period.

[Your closest friendnt]

On 9/15/2022 at 3:04 PM, JimmyB said:

Adam was a man, not a tree!  Stop reinventing Scripture.  There were two trees mentioned in Eden: the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and the tree of live.  Period.

Jesus Christ is the tree of Life....

Is he not? 

The tree has the meaning of the family tree...

Adam is the Father of the human race...we can know what he had when he was outside the Garden when he reproduced when we look at the fruit of his tree. Adam's descendants were in the Captivity of their Father Adam. And were born in the Captivity of their Father..

If Adam's children are in the Captivity of death it is because they were born to a Father who was in the Captivity of death...

That it was determined before they were born, it could not change with the will and efforts of man. 

That's why there was only one Inheritance for mankind before  Jesus Christ and this is the Captivity, it was the Inheritance of mankind by DEFAULT...

HADES took them at the time of their death...

As long as they are alive they can worship God, and God can give them his fellowship but when they died they get separated from God, Hades takes them to Hades to the. Place of the dead...

This is before Jesus Christ...and before Abraham. 

With Abraham there had been an exception.

They were the children of the Lord God Almighty, but they were not the children of the Heavenly Father...

The Lord continue to be their God after their death and were waiting for Jesus Christ to  come to them, where they were waiting  for him so he can give them the Life and take them to Heaven with him..

Edited September 18, 2022 by Your closest friendnt

[Dan Knight]

10 minutes ago, JimmyB said:

Adam was a man, not a tree!  Stop reinventing Scripture.  There were two trees mentioned in Eden: the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and the tree of live.  Period.

 1:18 Jesus alone has the keys to death and hell.  He is Life. Only He can give life.  He alone can take life away.  Understanding comes from believing that God is not a liar. We can surely die. The penalty of sin is to be un -existed. Humans aren't immortal. 

Adam gained the knowledge of good and evil from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

They earned the penalty of death, not from creation, but from the Creater through disobedience.  

[JimmyB]

30 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Jesus Christ is the tree of Life....

Is he not? 

The tree has the meaning of the family tree...

Adam is the Father of the human race...we can know what he had when he was outside the Garden when he reproduced when we look at the fruit of his tree. His descendants who were in death and who were born in the Captivity of the Devil.

If Adam's children are in death it is because they were born to a Father who was in dead...

That's why there was only one Inheritance for mankind before  Jesus Christ and this is the Captivity...HADES took them at the time of their death...

As long as they are alive they can worship God, and God can give them his fellowship but when they died they get separated from God, Hades takes them to Hades to the. Place of the dead...

This is before Jesus Christ...

With Abraham there has been an exception. God continue to be their God after their death and were waiting for the Christ to  come to them, so he can give them life and take them to Heaven with him..

The Lord God A

Do you understand eisegesis?  If not, "Eisegesis (/ ˌ aɪ s ɪ ˈ dʒ iː s ɪ s /) is the process of interpreting text in such a way as to introduce one's own presuppositions, agendas or biases.  It is commonly referred to as reading into the text. It is often done to "prove" a pre-held point of concern, and to provide confirmation bias corresponding with the pre-held interpretation and any agendas supported by it."

Adam was not a tree.  There is no tree of death in Scripture.  Nowhere in Scripture does it say that Jesus is the tree of life.  He is a human, not a tree!  The same applies to Adam and everyone else in Scripture.  Humans are not trees!

To show how illogical your thinking is, you wrote "As long as they are alive they can worship God".  Can trees worship God?

If you don't know what the Bible actually says, I suggest that you read it more carefully.

Again, try understanding the fallacy of eisegesis, since it clearly applies to you.

[JimmyB]

36 minutes ago, Dan Knight said:

 1:18 Jesus alone has the keys to death and hell.  He is Life. Only He can give life.  He alone can take life away.  Understanding comes from believing that God is not a liar. We can surely die. The penalty of sin is to be un -existed. Humans aren't immortal. 

Adam gained the knowledge of good and evil from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

They earned the penalty of death, not from creation, but from the Creater through disobedience.  

Agreed, but that has nothing to do with my post in reply to "Your closest friend nt" that said "Adam was a man, not a tree!  Stop reinventing Scripture.  There were two trees mentioned in Eden: the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and the tree of live.  Period."

[Your closest friendnt]

1 hour ago, Dan Knight said:

 1:18 Jesus alone has the keys to death and hell.  He is Life. Only He can give life.  He alone can take life away.  Understanding comes from believing that God is not a liar. We can surely die. The penalty of sin is to be un -existed. Humans aren't immortal. 

Adam gained the knowledge of good and evil from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

They earned the penalty of death, not from creation, but from the Creater through disobedience.  

Revelation 1:17-18 NKJV

¹⁷ When I saw him, I fell at his feet^(BD) as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me^(BE) and said: “Do not be afraid.^(BF) I am the First and the Last.^(BG) 18 I am the Living One; I was dead,^(BH) and now look, I am alive for ever and ever!^(BI) And I hold the keys of death and Hades.^(BJ)

.Revelation 6:8 NKJV

. ^8 (O)So I looked, and behold, a pale horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him. 

There is a reason why I call the tree of knowledge of good and evil, the Death tree.  

I understand that the tree is called the tree of knowledge of good and evil, and there is something else that comes with it, that even if Adam or Eve touch it, they will die...the tree will do that, God said to them "do not eat from the fruit of the tree and do not touch it lest you die...