Open7 Posted October 12, 2022 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 116 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 51 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/10/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted October 12, 2022 If God is omnipresent, would it be fair to say that God is with us as individuals, in our past, present and future at all times? So in a sense, he is with me right now 5 years ago, with me this moment now, and with me just now 5 years in the future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyB Posted October 12, 2022 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,628 Content Per Day: 1.16 Reputation: 304 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/23/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Open7 said: If God is omnipresent, would it be fair to say that God is with us as individuals, in our past, present and future at all times? So in a sense, he is with me right now 5 years ago, with me this moment now, and with me just now 5 years in the future? Yes, that is the case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who me Posted October 12, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,300 Content Per Day: 1.72 Reputation: 1,685 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted October 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Open7 said: If God is omnipresent, would it be fair to say that God is with us as individuals, in our past, present and future at all times? So in a sense, he is with me right now 5 years ago, with me this moment now, and with me just now 5 years in the future? No God was with you in your past, he is present with you now and will be with you tomorrow. God exists outside of time but we are creatures of time and can o ly experience it as time. We don't know how God perceives or experiences time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted October 12, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,117 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,851 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted October 12, 2022 If you study "M" string physics, one sees that there are other dimensions in our universe. The tenth dimension where the Father would exist you can show with mathematics that it is possible to be in all places at all times in any one instant. Basically there is no such thing as time in that dimension. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueFollowerOfChrist Posted October 13, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,039 Content Per Day: 1.62 Reputation: 589 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/26/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted October 13, 2022 12 hours ago, Open7 said: If God is omnipresent, would it be fair to say that God is with us as individuals, in our past, present and future at all times? So in a sense, he is with me right now 5 years ago, with me this moment now, and with me just now 5 years in the future? YES, God is outside of time. This also means that he sees all time as if it's now. He sees the future as if it's the past. If he didn't, then prophesy wouldn't be as certain as it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael37 Posted October 13, 2022 Group: Servant Followers: 21 Topic Count: 241 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6,943 Content Per Day: 3.27 Reputation: 4,867 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/23/1954 Share Posted October 13, 2022 18 hours ago, Open7 said: If God is omnipresent, would it be fair to say that God is with us as individuals, in our past, present and future at all times? So in a sense, he is with me right now 5 years ago, with me this moment now, and with me just now 5 years in the future? Hi Open7, Yes, God is All-powerful, All-knowing, and Ever-present, but that does not mean that everyone is in communion with Him in at all times, in all circumstances, and in all places. Sin separates us from God and indifference to Him is worldly. Taking your question further and delving deeper into what it means to be in communion with God, I submit that the habit, practice, and application of regular "Bible Study & Devotion" is a major component of Christian Life & Worship. In this discipline there are three questions that help us abide in Christ and produce good fruit: What does the Scripture say? What does the Scripture mean? How is the Scripture to apply? Mat 1:23 “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and shall give birth to a son. They shall call his name Immanuel;” which is, being interpreted, “God with us.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted October 19, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,646 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,832 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted October 19, 2022 On 10/12/2022 at 9:55 AM, Open7 said: If God is omnipresent, would it be fair to say that God is with us as individuals, in our past, present and future at all times? So in a sense, he is with me right now 5 years ago, with me this moment now, and with me just now 5 years in the future? Your present (the perpetual "now") is all that exists. Your past is over and your future is yet to come. God was, is, and will be present everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristen Posted October 21, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 9 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,367 Content Per Day: 0.63 Reputation: 1,340 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/26/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted October 21, 2022 Technically, omnipresence only refers to everywhere - not everywhen. However, since God is the eternal Creator of both space and time (and therefore above the rules that govern both space and time), the issue is more complex. Ultimately, the issue is a matter of perspective. From God's perspective (which supersedes time), He is with you always (both everywhere and everywhen). But from our perspective (within time), God is with us now, but was with us in the past. It is interesting to think about the past still existing in some sense, but I see little use in confusing the tenses in conversation. The rules of grammar that describe our reality are time-bound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael37 Posted October 21, 2022 Group: Servant Followers: 21 Topic Count: 241 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6,943 Content Per Day: 3.27 Reputation: 4,867 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/23/1954 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Tristen said: Technically, omnipresence only refers to everywhere - not everywhen. However, since God is the eternal Creator of both space and time (and therefore above the rules that govern both space and time), the issue is more complex. Ultimately, the issue is a matter of perspective. From God's perspective (which supersedes time), He is with you always (both everywhere and everywhen). But from our perspective (within time), God is with us now, but was with us in the past. It is interesting to think about the past still existing in some sense, but I see little use in confusing the tenses in conversation. The rules of grammar that describe our reality are time-bound. Another way of describing the omnipresence of God is to say He always exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristen Posted October 21, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 9 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,367 Content Per Day: 0.63 Reputation: 1,340 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/26/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted October 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, Michael37 said: Another way of describing the omnipresence of God is to say He always exists. I think there is a sense in which this is correct, but also a sense in which we are trying to squeeze the concept of time into a word where it is not typically understood that way. That could be problematic in terms of being clear in our communication. I would suggest the word "infinite" would more adequately express the concept that God is also ubiquitous in time. And the term "eternal" to express the concept that God is ubiquitous across all of reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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