Is it possible that homosexuality is a birth defect?

[Not of the World]

12 minutes ago, TheBlade said:

Praise God no.. there is no just science to even back that up. Talking spiritual.. any thing we play with.. you become what that spirit is. I know so many that were delivered set free from homosexuality as in shocked because that desire for the same flesh was gone. They had no desire what so ever. 

I can't be the only one that has gone to a Doctor to have them ask me all this stuff if any of my family members had this or that to hear them say if "they had it" well you might have it also. I think most believers only know of the natural not the supernatural. Far as I will go. I will say this they once ask this spirit when it entered this woman. It was when her parents were really fighting and she was so scared she was hiding under the table is when it entered her. 

Pfft there is a word that describes those born with one of each and it is not "transgen". That alone does not equal or proof someone is born gay. We can believe think say do anything we want. They way it is here it will not be like in heaven. 

Thanks for your perspective!  

[JohnR7]

3 hours ago, Not of the World said:

I would change that to "...when people try to justify sin."

The Bible uses the word: "themselves"

“I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.” Luke 18:14

James 4:6 “God resists the proud, But gives grace to the humble.”

[Not of the World]

12 minutes ago, JohnR7 said:

would allow what? 

She should probably take it up privately with management rather than hijack and derail our discussion.  

[Not of the World]

1 minute ago, JohnR7 said:

The Bible uses the word: "themselves"

“I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.” Luke 18:14

James 4:6 “God resists the proud, But gives grace to the humble.”

Thank  you.

[JohnR7]

1 minute ago, Not of the World said:

She should probably take it up privately with management rather than hijack and derail our discussion.  

It sure is an active discussion, but we cannot seem to define the terms we are using. There is a lot of confusion as to what we are talking about. Which was the original question that still has not been answered. 

[Waggles]

17 hours ago, Not of the World said:

I believe some are "born" gay. Is it possible that such an unnatural desire is, in some cases, a birth defect just like being born with only one arm is a birth defect?  

So what if it is?

All are born under sin and need salvation in Christ Jesus.

[Not of the World]

Just now, Waggles said:

So what if it is?

It's my impression that some children seem "gay" from a very early age, which would seem to negate the belief that homosexuality is chosen by ALL who engage in it.  

[Waggles]

Just now, Not of the World said:

It's my impression that some children seem "gay" from a very early age, which would seem to negate the belief that homosexuality is chosen by ALL who engage in it.  

It matters not.

Human nature is full of self-will and rebellion against God our Creator, our Father.

All children from an early age [the terrible twos] start to express naughtiness and defiance; then comes squabbling and telling fibs. Children have to be taught how to be nice, how to share, how to care, how to be polite, etc.

Good traits do not come naturally.

Even a child makes himself known by his acts, by whether his conduct is pure and upright. Proverbs 20:11

Everybody, whether homosexual or heterosexual or other choice is under sin and needs to believe the gospel unto salvation. 

Mark 16:15  And [Jesus] said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation. 
16  Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

[Not of the World]

6 minutes ago, Waggles said:

It matters not.

Human nature is full of self-will and rebellion against God our Creator, our Father.

All children from an early age [the terrible twos] start to express naughtiness and defiance; then comes squabbling and telling fibs. Children have to be taught how to be nice, how to share, how to care, how to be polite, etc.

Good traits do not come naturally.

Even a child makes himself known by his acts, by whether his conduct is pure and upright. Proverbs 20:11

Everybody, whether homosexual or heterosexual or other choice is under sin and needs to believe the gospel unto salvation. 

Mark 16:15  And [Jesus] said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation. 
16  Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

Thanks for your perspective.  

[Vine Abider]

16 minutes ago, Waggles said:

 

Human nature is full of self-will and rebellion against God our Creator, our Father.

All children from an early age [the terrible twos] start to express naughtiness and defiance; then comes squabbling and telling fibs. Children have to be taught how to be nice, how to share, how to care, how to be polite, etc.

Agree. Mankind is corrupted by sin in the flesh and this flesh is capable of most anything (except real love, joy, peace, etc.). Then we have the prince of the power of the air, doing his best to make it all worse.

Without Christ in us, man doesn't stand a chance, and the blatant homosexuality and other crazy things we see will go more and more off the deep end.  If it's not all mercifully brought to an end by God soon, how bad would it all become?

Edited November 10, 2022 by Vine Abider