Do you believe in the "Miracle at Fatima"?

[Not of the World]

1 hour ago, Jayne said:

First, you say you believe it.  Then you question it.  Which is it?

I believe that something supernatural happened there but that the things she is alleged to have said are not consistent with scripture.  

You said that Mary is dead.  Do you believe that all Christians are dead until the resurrection?

[missmuffet]

No

[Jayne]

2 hours ago, Not of the World said:

You said that Mary is dead.  Do you believe that all Christians are dead until the resurrection?

Mary is dead in the same sense that my mother and father are dead.  They are with Christ and there is no communication between us and them.

[The_Patriot21]

The Bible says once we're dead we're dead...period. to say Mary appeared to someone after her death goes against what scripture teaches. Furthermore the Catholic taking this and using it to hold Mary up is also against scripture, as praying to Mary or in her name is also against scripture and falls under the title "Idolatry" 

I said what I said. So does the Bible.

So did it happen? Did three children see what they believed to be Mary? Impossible to say. The story could be entirely fabricated. Or it could have been a demon pretending to be Mary and the children were deceived. Either way rest assured it was not Mary. 

[com7fy8]

On 12/5/2022 at 8:59 AM, Not of the World said:

Allegedly, Mary told the children to pray for the conversion of Russia.  

Is anyone aware of any verses in the Bible wherein God or a person of God told others to pray for a particular nation of the world?  

1 Timothy 2:1-4 says > "first of all" to pray for all people. All people would include all nations where all people are.

In the Mary recitations of the rosery, it says to Mary, "pray for us sinners". But we in Jesus are not called sinners; but John says we are called "children of God" (1 John 3:1), our Apostle Paul calls us "saints", and Peter calls us "those who have obtained like previous faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ" (2 Peter 1:1).

But the real Mary does not seem to get much attention from God's word. She does get attention in the gospels, and she is praying with the disciples, in Acts chapter one.

In the book of Revelation, John has vision of Heaven, but he does not say he sees Mary on the throne with Jesus.

So, the real Mary is humble; we need to not let false stuff turn us against the real mother of Jesus. She is a good example of obedience.

Edited December 6, 2022 by com7fy8

[TrueFollowerOfChrist]

No,  I don't believe the story is true. Scripture doesn't let us believe that the dead talk to us,  let alone tell us prophecies about the future.  We are in fact discouraged from communicating with the dead,  so I don't believe God would allow someone in Heaven to violate his law. 

[Not of the World]

I appreciate everyone's feedback. 

[Omegaman 3.0]

13 hours ago, missmuffet said:

No

Could you be more concise? Many people won't take the time to read such wordy responses!

[missmuffet]

10 hours ago, Omegaman 3.0 said:

Could you be more concise? Many people won't take the time to read such wordy responses!

I gave you my answer Omega and I do not believe in miracle at fatima. Why? it is a Catholic belief and exalting Mary. 

[farouk]

On 12/5/2022 at 12:51 PM, missmuffet said:

No

@missmuffet Some ppl can't tell the big difference between the 'miracle at Fatima' and the miracle at Cana: yet the Cana one is attested by Scripture while the other is not.............