Oldest Galaxies Found Relative to Big Bang

[JohnD]

9 hours ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

Source: https://www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/Numbers/Math/Mathematical_Thinking/how_fast_is_the_speed.htm

So NASA is wrong, but you are right. Hmmm.

186,000 MPS now...

But if Setterfield and Norman are correct, 7,000 years ago c. was virtually as instantaneous (10 million times faster than today).

Question:

Could the Big Bang have accelerated even the speed of light initially from the enormity and intensity of the explosion itself? 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, JohnD said:

186,000 MPS now...

But if Setterfield and Norman are correct, 7,000 years ago c. was virtually as instantaneous (10 million times faster than today).

Question:

Could the Big Bang have accelerated even the speed of light initially from the enormity and intensity of the explosion itself? 

Well, until I do an impartial deep dive into the speed of light, I'll have to consider the following:

1. Accuracy of instrumentation increases with time.

2. The accuracy of distance measurements is not a constant.

For example, the millimeter is a unit of length in the metric system, equivalent to one-thousandth of a meter (the SI base unit of length). In the standard metric system, power-of-10 prefix multipliers facilitate the derivation of other.

Formally, one millimeter is the distance travelled by a ray of electromagnetic (EM) energy through a vacuum in a time span of 3.33564095 x 10-12 seconds.

Thus, the millimeter and its kin are also used to specify the wavelengths of electromagnetic fields, especially at ultra-high and microwave radio frequencies.

Further, such radio spectrum occupies an informally defined range of wavelengths from roughly 1 mm to several tens of kilometers. The speed of EM-field propagation in a vacuum is 2.99792458 x 1011 millimeters per second.

One simple way to measure the centimeter is by using everyday objects that are close to 1 centimeter in size, like a pencil, pen or highlighter. Millimeter gives more precision value to such small objects.

Moreover, a millimeter is a unit of length in the metric system which is equal to \(\frac{1}{1000} th of a meter.

1 mm is equivalent to 0.039370 inches.

History of a Millimeter

The metric system of weights and measures was defined and adopted in France in 1795. John Wilkins was the first person to publicly recognize the need for universal length measurement.

So as to carry out a measurement locally to avoid having to have a definition that refers to a stored reference unit.

Thus, he proposed using the length of a “second’s pendulum” which made half an oscillation per second. But later, it was found that there is a slight difference in this length around the world.

Therefore, the Academy of Sciences devised a new measure, 1/10000000 of the distance from the Equator to the North Pole.

Moreover, they put to use the new value to create a metal bar that stores at the BIPM’s headquarters and known as “international prototype meter”. This standard has since been superseded and further defined the meter as “1650763.73 wavelengths of the orange-red emission line of a krypton-86 atom in a vacuum”.

Most recently, in 1983, the meter defines as “the distance travelled by light in a vacuum in 1/299792458 of a second”. From this, we derive the centimeter as the distance travelled by light in a vacuum in 1/2997924580 of a second.
Millimeter Conversions

One inch equals 25.4 millimeters, but this value is not constant, so we need a special conversion factor. Also, to obtain a centimeter measurement from feet, divide the original measurement by 0.032808. And, to get centimeters from yards, divide the original measurement by 0.010936. [https://www.toppr.com/guides/physics/unit-and-conversion/what-is-millimeter-definition-and-conversion/]

This must all be accounted for at the time the measurement was made. Seconds also have a changing measurement but I think I've provided enough facts for you to get started to check the accuracy of the claims. Good luck.

Edited January 15, 2023 by Saved.One.by.Grace

[BeyondET]

5 hours ago, JohnD said:

Interesting, I had a similar conversation with my Beloved Bride recently about how we are in constant motion but have relative stability in our lives.

Atomic clocks still only measure the slightest of variance in dilation of time (due to lesser gravity).

What's your point?

I think salt a basic component essential the life, made up of two elements is fascinating example of stability as well.

By them selves sodium and chlorine are toxic and dangerous, sodium is flammable and chlorine can inhence explosion, toxic to the body. Combined it is stable and harmless needed to sustain life.

Atoms is a finite natural example that light is a constant speed though can fluctuate up or down in speed.

the latest tech to observe motion to gauge time is counting how long it takes for a light particle to travel across a hydrogen atom called a zeptosecond.

Edited January 15, 2023 by BeyondET

[BeyondET]

5 hours ago, JohnD said:

186,000 MPS now...

But if Setterfield and Norman are correct, 7,000 years ago c. was virtually as instantaneous (10 million times faster than today).

Question:

Could the Big Bang have accelerated even the speed of light initially from the enormity and intensity of the explosion itself? 

the theory is there was a cloud of hydrogen particles after ignition, the early universe was inside the bubble the light couldn't escape, early galaxies broke through and the universe is expanding. 

[JohnD]

The only way to be certain is to have been there to witness the event.

Hmmm

[JohnD]

4 hours ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

Well, until I do an impartial deep dive into the speed of light, I'll have to consider the following:

1. Accuracy of instrumentation increases with time.

2. The accuracy of distance measurements is not a constant.

For example, the millimeter is a unit of length in the metric system, equivalent to one-thousandth of a meter (the SI base unit of length). In the standard metric system, power-of-10 prefix multipliers facilitate the derivation of other.

Formally, one millimeter is the distance travelled by a ray of electromagnetic (EM) energy through a vacuum in a time span of 3.33564095 x 10-12 seconds.

Thus, the millimeter and its kin are also used to specify the wavelengths of electromagnetic fields, especially at ultra-high and microwave radio frequencies.

Further, such radio spectrum occupies an informally defined range of wavelengths from roughly 1 mm to several tens of kilometers. The speed of EM-field propagation in a vacuum is 2.99792458 x 1011 millimeters per second.

One simple way to measure the centimeter is by using everyday objects that are close to 1 centimeter in size, like a pencil, pen or highlighter. Millimeter gives more precision value to such small objects.

Moreover, a millimeter is a unit of length in the metric system which is equal to \(\frac{1}{1000} th of a meter.

1 mm is equivalent to 0.039370 inches.

History of a Millimeter

The metric system of weights and measures was defined and adopted in France in 1795. John Wilkins was the first person to publicly recognize the need for universal length measurement.

So as to carry out a measurement locally to avoid having to have a definition that refers to a stored reference unit.

Thus, he proposed using the length of a “second’s pendulum” which made half an oscillation per second. But later, it was found that there is a slight difference in this length around the world.

Therefore, the Academy of Sciences devised a new measure, 1/10000000 of the distance from the Equator to the North Pole.

Moreover, they put to use the new value to create a metal bar that stores at the BIPM’s headquarters and known as “international prototype meter”. This standard has since been superseded and further defined the meter as “1650763.73 wavelengths of the orange-red emission line of a krypton-86 atom in a vacuum”.

Most recently, in 1983, the meter defines as “the distance travelled by light in a vacuum in 1/299792458 of a second”. From this, we derive the centimeter as the distance travelled by light in a vacuum in 1/2997924580 of a second.
Millimeter Conversions

One inch equals 25.4 millimeters, but this value is not constant, so we need a special conversion factor. Also, to obtain a centimeter measurement from feet, divide the original measurement by 0.032808. And, to get centimeters from yards, divide the original measurement by 0.010936. [https://www.toppr.com/guides/physics/unit-and-conversion/what-is-millimeter-definition-and-conversion/]

This must all be accounted for at the time the measurement was made. Seconds also have a changing measurement but I think I've provided enough facts for you to get started to check the accuracy of the claims. Good luck.

Did you read the article at Khouse.org that I cited?

The decay of c. was notably greater than the margin of error in the experiments.

[Guest]

10 hours ago, JohnD said:

Did you read the article at Khouse.org that I cited?

The decay of c. was notably greater than the margin of error in the experiments.

I'm sorry I didn't. I will, promise. I've been having trouble deciding what to read next. The last book I read was Missing 411 about missing people from our national parks. God directed me to Signature in the Cell by Stephen C. Meyer which I haven't finished, yet.

[Guest]

11 hours ago, JohnD said:

Did you read the article at Khouse.org that I cited?

The decay of c. was notably greater than the margin of error in the experiments.

I read a different article:

When I analyzed the entire data set of 163 points using the standard, weighted, linear least squares method, the decay of c was determined to be:

decay of c = 0.0000140 ± 0.0000596 km/s/year.

This result says pretty plainly that there is no discernible decay trend in the data set presented by Norman and Setterfield.

[AnOrangeCat]

On 1/14/2023 at 9:14 PM, JohnD said:

What if time does not actually dilate (as relativity supposes). That the progression we often refer to as time (time actually being the methods we measure the progression of the universe) proceeds at basically the same pace. Our measuring devices can measure dilation in the minuscule ways we can measure (slower time on Earth than say in orbit). But that is not a very large variance at all.

It may have more to do with gravity wells than the speed of light.

Gravity does seem to slow time down, but reverse time?

You're talking Star Trek / Science Fiction..

I personally rather like this sort of thing. Time and time again we've come across things that challenge the prevailing notions of the era. That's something that a lot of scientists and people who place a lot of trust in science seem to forget.

[HAZARD]

In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the earth.

 

Galactic photo shoot captures 3 billion stars in one of the biggest surveys of the night sky and thats only a small section of the entire galaxy.

Edited January 20, 2023 by HAZARD