The Giants

[teddyv]

On 12/28/2022 at 5:21 PM, Starise said:

Hi Dennis,

 I believe oxygen could only have so much impact on human growth.

Some of this all depends on how you see the timelines of creation and if you see various epochs or not. That's a hornet's nest I choose not to poke right now.

In the Bible we are simply told there were giants in those days and the implications are too strong in the original text to say there wasn't angel/human DNA manipulation. I personally don't think it was too much of an exaggeration that regular men were like grasshoppers in their sight.

You might find it interesting that in the paranormal end of things, many very large spirits have been supposedly seen of huge height. Possible spirits of dead Nephilim? 

The first thing most 'logical" people do is either explain the validity of giants away or look at medical exceptions. Whatever works for them to be able to say the whole idea of giants is absurd. It's the only subject I can think of where people deny the skeletons found. I mean, aside from some good photoshopping here and there, we have proof, evidence. Not only in the soil but in ancient writings to support entire cities of them. Anyone who cares to dig into it will see it. This is why I can't simply walk away from it and say it was Seth.

 

It's interesting how every photo I've seen of a huge skeleton is always neither clear nor crisp.

[BeyondET]

On 12/23/2022 at 8:12 AM, Starise said:

I tend to go with the older translations and views. I am willing to look at alternate views if they are supported. The idea of angels not marrying or giving in marriage in heaven can't be avoided. Paul would have been referring to obedient good angels.

We don't know what fallen angels in our realm are capable of. Angels often appear as common men when they are seen here on earth. It might be interesting to note no female angels are seen. Jesus was obviously only birthed by Mary. Joseph played no part in it. We have no trouble believing this happened. Satan could have copied a similar process. It would obviously have flaws since Satan is limited. 

And the elephant in the room is of course, giants.  " Sons of God" from Seth are still men, just rebellious ungodly men. Demonic influence on these men could have also made changes to DNA.

I've got an extreme view lol. It takes reading Gen chapter, 1,2,4,3,5,6, except last two verses of 4. I do the same with Gen 1 days, sun before plants.

Eve had some help with the birth of Cain and Abel. Pain increased with Seth no help thus in the likeness of mankind daughters of men, descendants of Cain sons of God the old lineage.

Nephilim were on the earth those days, had advanced technology, I think because Cain and his descendants was building city's, Cain went from growing crops to building citys. They knew some chemistry maken bronze from copper and tin. Musical instruments etc. Seems quite advanced for just a few generations from being born from dirt. He did stretch out the heavens to dwell in lol.

 

Edited December 30, 2022 by BeyondET

[BeyondET]

Nephilims of Nod, ?

[BeyondET]

Lamech was the first to violate the marriage order multible wives sons of God daughters of men, and his statement about being protected was twisting God's word, the serpent.

Edited December 30, 2022 by BeyondET

[Ray12614]

On 12/22/2022 at 9:17 AM, Dennis1209 said:

Starise is always stealing the thoughts in my brain and plagiarizing my worldview. Time to switch to the heavy-duty Reynold’s Wrap helmet. Get out of my head Starise. 😊

Rather than waste cyber ink, I have a list of the giant tribes and their descriptions if anyone is interested. Different theories about how they reappeared after the flood, and much controversy on the subject. Some vehemently oppose this view.

Luke 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

Why did Jesus need to go millennia back in history to cite His example? What was so extreme from Genesis 6:1-4 onward that the Lord had to destroy everything with the “breath of life?”

Remember the U.S. government announcement of the creation of super-soldiers and a space force? It was in response to keeping up with the Jones’s; we cannot be left behind on the battlefield or at war in space. I could supply many links to support my conclusions, which are easily Googled; here is just one.

China has done human testing to create biologically enhanced super soldiers, says top U.S. official (nbcnews.com)

DNA modification is the only way to achieve this goal; Nimrod “became” a mighty warrior, a man of renown. Bigger, stronger, faster, better senses, less sleep, rest, and food are the ideal soldier and weapons.

Another question to deliberate is why those who receive the MOB are irredeemable and condemned to damnation. There were and are Satanists (sold their soul to Satan) who have turned to the Lord for Salvation and are saved. How come those who accepted this mark lose all hope?

Were the Nephilim (fallen ones-giants) redeemable? Not being fully human, what happened to their spirit and soul at death? Naturally, I have a view they became the demons of today. I have found no instances of demons, evil or unclean spirits mentioned or implied before Noah’s flood. They suddenly seem to pop up out of nowhere.  

Jesus was born 100% human and 100% God; whom did He die for?

What does it mean to be fully human and after our own kind? There are species within kinds; today, the “kind” barrier has been broken. I am not a scientist, but I recall we share 95+ percent of our DNA with apes and monkeys. A question was posed to a DNA geneticist, how much of our DNA can be altered before we are not fully human? Her answer was <1%.

The day is coming soon; if not already here, we will witness transhumanism in the flesh. Mice with human ears, pigs with human blood, etc., are tinker toys we are allowed to know.

Interesting topic. On a side note; I worked with a young man in his twenties who had some kind of anomality such as created a problem that he was still growing at his age, and showed no signs of slowing down. He got plenty of remarks and jokes about it, but, his reply was 'its not funny at all'. He was over 7 feet tall, shoe size of 18, and still growing and starting to have some serious health issues regarding walking and heart issues as well directly as a result of his huge size.

My point is this: Giants happen today to individuals, but not entire races of giants. Also, if it was something naturally occurring, those giants, other than being big, would be unable physically to be of any value in battle or war. This leads me to believe that they had some kind of supernatural strength to them, not a faulty gene or other mutation.

Thanks for this posting . . . one more question to ask Jesus about when we have opportunity to do so . . . 

Ray . . . 

[Starise]

On 12/29/2022 at 10:10 PM, teddyv said:

It's interesting how every photo I've seen of a huge skeleton is always neither clear nor crisp.

Most of the better images online are WEB format. The jpg. I snag are often copies of those better files.