BeyondET Posted January 1, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,869 Content Per Day: 1.22 Reputation: 816 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/1968 Share Posted January 1, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, The Barbarian said: Yes. She said that God said they would die the day they ate from the tree. The snake, being a Biblical literalist, told her that they would not. And they didn't die physically. The penalty for eating from that tree was a spiritual death; not a physical one. He lied by telling part of the truth. Indeed they ate of it and there eyes were open, they lived quite along time afterwards, the disobedience was the issue, maybe also they couldn't handle it even if they tryed, death would of came either way. Maybe later that day if not for God intervening. Keeping the path to immortality in the flesh guarded. Edited January 1, 2023 by BeyondET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondET Posted January 1, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,869 Content Per Day: 1.22 Reputation: 816 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/1968 Share Posted January 1, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, kwikphilly said: I agree,in referencing the Books of Enoch- thats alot of very interesting reading but we just don't know which of it is which or even if what we have available is in fact the Books?????And you're right- that's a Topic for a separate thread! I remember when I was very young reading " In the new beginning" when I read someone's Bible - it stayed "stuck" in my mind for decades,of course bring raised catholic it was not in the catholic Bible- For the life of me I tried to remember who's Bible it was and what Bible it was...... Funny thing,huh? So many friends said,"oh you probably just thought that's what it said".... No,I remember because it stood out to me even though I was just a little girl because I knew what my Dad taught me,I used to read Genesis over n over n over..... Happy New Year Brother- a Bountifully Blessed 2023 to you ,your wife and fur babies❤️In Jesus Name With love in Christ, Kwik These things should divide no Brothers & Sisters- we always had these discussions & never had anything but love for one another🤔 It's a interesting book, but just for the thread topic. If it has some weight, the book mentions angels descending in the days of Jared. Looking in Genesis Jared was the 6 descendant of Cain. Who knows if it's genuine but they wouldn't be pre adamic. The book seems to cover from Jared to the flood. Edited January 1, 2023 by BeyondET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 1, 2023 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,229 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,954 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 1, 2023 Considering we are to judge angels, I think eating was the plan all along. Let Satan give humans the ability to judge all by himself. God 1 Satan 0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondET Posted January 1, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,869 Content Per Day: 1.22 Reputation: 816 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/1968 Share Posted January 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, other one said: Considering we are to judge angels, I think eating was the plan all along. Let Satan give humans the ability to judge all by himself. God 1 Satan 0 That makes sense, it was of equal responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueFollowerOfChrist Posted January 1, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,049 Content Per Day: 1.61 Reputation: 597 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/26/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted January 1, 2023 16 hours ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said: @TrueFollowerOfChrist : The argument you are presenting is based on a false premise. It is a premise that has been proven to be false on this very forum. It probably isn't one you have read because it's been a long time since it has been used. You are wrong. What I have said has never been proven false. Young earth theology is based not only on God's word, but on Science. The religion of evolution is an extremely powerful lie of Satan that even most christians have fallen into. There are many scientists that believe in YE and they have PHDs and other prestigious degrees. The same "evidence" that secular scientists use for Old Earth, can also easily be explained in a YE model. So the supposed evidence doesn't actually prove anything. God's word says DAYS, and I will side with God over man every day for eternity. BTW, I have heard all the arguments against YE, and honestly none of them are really believable and don't sit right with my spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddyv Posted January 1, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4,265 Content Per Day: 2.91 Reputation: 2,302 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/03/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted January 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, TrueFollowerOfChrist said: You are wrong. What I have said has never been proven false. Young earth theology is based not only on God's word, but on Science. The religion of evolution is an extremely powerful lie of Satan that even most christians have fallen into. There are many scientists that believe in YE and they have PHDs and other prestigious degrees. The same "evidence" that secular scientists use for Old Earth, can also easily be explained in a YE model. So the supposed evidence doesn't actually prove anything. God's word says DAYS, and I will side with God over man every day for eternity. BTW, I have heard all the arguments against YE, and honestly none of them are really believable and don't sit right with my spirit. It's perfectly fine to ascribe to YE if you have a theological commitment to it. I don't because YEC does not present a parsimonious explanation of the created order, typically relying on ad hoc explanations that often conflict or contradict each other. It's not like they are short of funding to do some good science. For the price of the Ark Park, AiG probably could have funded a host of scientists in different fields for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vine Abider Posted January 1, 2023 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 6 Topic Count: 202 Topics Per Day: 0.36 Content Count: 3,473 Content Per Day: 6.19 Reputation: 2,323 Days Won: 3 Joined: 10/25/2022 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/2024 Share Posted January 1, 2023 1 hour ago, TrueFollowerOfChrist said: The same "evidence" that secular scientists use for Old Earth, can also easily be explained in a YE model. So the supposed evidence doesn't actually prove anything. God's word says DAYS, and I will side with God over man every day for eternity. BTW, I have heard all the arguments against YE, and honestly none of them are really believable and don't sit right with my spirit. And visa versa. Honestly, I could make the same impassioned statement about an old earth being supported by the bible and science. So where does that leave us? (Answer: having to love Jesus and each other in spite of our particular perspectives) 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted January 1, 2023 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 195 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 11,054 Content Per Day: 6.50 Reputation: 9,018 Days Won: 36 Joined: 09/12/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1956 Share Posted January 1, 2023 Just now, Vine Abider said: And visa versa. Honestly, I could make the same impassioned statement about an old earth being supported by the bible and science. So where does that leave us? (Answer: having to love Jesus and each other in spite of our particular perspectives) Well done, brother. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted January 1, 2023 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 195 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 11,054 Content Per Day: 6.50 Reputation: 9,018 Days Won: 36 Joined: 09/12/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1956 Share Posted January 1, 2023 Its important to keep in mind just what is the true basis of our unity. The Apostles are no longer around, so we are left to interpret the canon as best we can with the Holy Spirit and because its obvious we have disagreements, our best chance to move on is to operate in the bonds of peace and unity under the Head. Lacking this, Life and Light is hindered from flowing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis1209 Posted January 1, 2023 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 349 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,505 Content Per Day: 2.70 Reputation: 5,404 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/27/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted January 1, 2023 No one has ever accused me of not having an over abundance of thoughts on this subject. Unfortunately I do not have the time right now, later. P.S. Short or long version, LOL... P.S.S. On what day was water created? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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