The Beasts mark

[other one]

Two whole pages of posts on the mark and as usual no one is thinking or talking about the other half of this, which is being required to worship the beast. When someone demands that you worship something other than Jesus and or the Father, then you should start worrying very much about receiving a mark.

The mark is an outward sign (be it a mark, a chip or something even newer by the time it gets here) that you have pledged allegiance to the beast or its image which basically is Lucifer or Satan if you like that name better.

All this talk about the mark is really a bit of a quick start for worry, for it could be literally anything.

I am about halfway through a book that just came out called "Spychips" and you all should read this book. It is the inside story about RFID in general and what those companies that are pushing it are up to. Total loss of privacy is what this is all about, and most likely will be used as the force of not buying or selling just because it is so efficient.

But the mark itself....... I would not say so, for until it becomes a necessity to worship the evil one for the privilege of buying and selling, the chips are just a vile intrusion into our privacy but I agree with Leonard that using a chip is not likely to condemn you to hell for eternity until it is combined with worshiping the evil one.

Sam

[Leonard]

Two whole pages of posts on the mark and as usual no one is thinking or talking about the other half of this, which is being required to worship the beast. When someone demands that you worship something other than Jesus and or the Father, then you should start worrying very much about receiving a mark.

The mark is an outward sign (be it a mark, a chip or something even newer by the time it gets here) that you have pledged allegiance to the beast or its image which basically is Lucifer or Satan if you like that name better.

All this talk about the mark is really a bit of a quick start for worry, for it could be literally anything.

I am about halfway through a book that just came out called "Spychips" and you all should read this book. It is the inside story about RFID in general and what those companies that are pushing it are up to. Total loss of privacy is what this is all about, and most likely will be used as the force of not buying or selling just because it is so efficient.

But the mark itself....... I would not say so, for until it becomes a necessity to worship the evil one for the privilege of buying and selling, the chips are just a vile intrusion into our privacy but I agree with Leonard that using a chip is not likely to condemn you to hell for eternity until it is combined with worshiping the evil one.

Sam

Thank you, Other One for your voice of sanity.

[Mongo]

Try to live and survive in the U.S. witout their Identification number or signing your name. It's not easy. Do you think that the devil is stupid enough to make it anything other than a subtle tradition at first? Then he turned it into law. You are not a citizen without the number.

Denise

I don't have the mark of the beast. Any rumors to the contrary are erroneous.

[Salt]

We read in the Bible about being being 'marked' in another couple of places I can think of too. The 'servants of God' are 'marked' by the 'man with the writer's ink horn.' (Ezekiel chapter 9). Was this 'mark' literal? No. Will the 'mark of the beast be'? I doubt it.

The people are marked with the beast's mark in their 'metapon' in the Greek text from "Meta" (among, amidst), and "Ops" referring specifically to the eye. Earlier in Revelation the servants of God are marked in their foreheads as well. Are the 'end-times teachers' looking for a literal mark there too. No.

I do not think any computer chip can DOOM YOU FOR ETERNITY! C'mon, Church bethink yourselves!!!!

God has his mark in EZ 9, but it should not confused with the mark of the beast as in scripture...

Rev 13:16-17 KJV And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Rev 14:9-11 KJV And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up forever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Rev 15:2 KJV And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

Rev 16:2 KJV And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshiped his image.

Rev 19:20 KJV And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshiped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Rev 20:4 KJV And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshiped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Recieving the mark of the beast is an automatic trip to hell-forever!

[Salt]

The mark of the beast in form of the chip implants is Satan

[other one]

The mark of the beast in form of the chip implants is Satan's way of trying to set himself up as God and be 'omni-present'. Think of it, a connection of global computers and satellites that keep track of a person, their location, and their finances worldwide.

Jehovah Jireh is God our provider. The Devil counterfeits the things of God. Satan wants to be a kind of a provider for those who take the mark of the beast for buying and selling. Those who take the mark of the beast are cast into the lake of fire (hell).

Isa 14:13-14 KJV For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: (14) I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

salt, when the time comes for this and the agenteur of the evil one comes to you and tells you that you must worship the beast or die...... you won't need to be anxious about the mark for you'll never get the chance to wear one. You see he won't need the chip, just to have his agenteurs do his work and there are many who will kill you with a smile on their faces thinking that they do God a good thing...... our Lord told us it would be that way.

Don't get people so worked up over a mark that they don't see the beast when it comes, for if we are still here we will need to prepare spiritually for the stressful times, and that is the only hope any of us have besides the possibility of a early rapture......

[yomotalking]

If Christians are not going to be safe, why not start diggin' now!

(I kinda fancy living underground!!)

Seriously, you think that it will be sudden, and not gradual?

[Salt]

salt, when the time comes for this and the agenteur of the evil one comes to you and tells you that you must worship the beast or die...... you won't need to be anxious about the mark for you'll never get the chance to wear one. You see he won't need the chip, just to have his agenteurs do his work and there are many who will kill you with a smile on their faces thinking that they do God a good thing...... our Lord told us it would be that way.

Don't get people so worked up over a mark that they don't see the beast when it comes, for if we are still here we will need to prepare spiritually for the stressful times, and that is the only hope any of us have besides the possibility of a early rapture......

Yes, lets just hide the light of truth under a bushel!

Edited October 11, 2005 by Salt

[Remnantrob]

Mark Malone:

If you must preach, at least don't let it be a bunch of (very recent) traditions of men, and other Bravo Sierra.

The flesh profiteth NOTHING. It is our sprititual relationship with the Father which will determine our eternal inheritance, not something merely physical. "Are ye so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, will you now be perfected by the flesh???"

so, do you believe then, that something that is spiritual---is not really there?

are you saying, that the souls and spirits, of dead breathren, are not real?

are you saying, that since Jesus ascended spiritually glorified, that he really isnt there?

our eternal state---is a physical one---

I dont want to confuse you, but, was Jesus resurrected flesh and blood bodily?

Hey Mark,

Nice to meetcha!

I'm gonna say yes to the last question you asked because I'm curious to you response. I'm not debating ya, just curious.

God bless.

[other one]

salt, when the time comes for this and the agenteur of the evil one comes to you and tells you that you must worship the beast or die...... you won't need to be anxious about the mark for you'll never get the chance to wear one. You see he won't need the chip, just to have his agenteurs do his work and there are many who will kill you with a smile on their faces thinking that they do God a good thing...... our Lord told us it would be that way.

Don't get people so worked up over a mark that they don't see the beast when it comes, for if we are still here we will need to prepare spiritually for the stressful times, and that is the only hope any of us have besides the possibility of a early rapture......

Yes, lets just hide the light of truth under a bushel!

That would be assuming that what you say is true, and though it is very logical, it may or may not be true. This is much to important a subject to take something that is simply logical conjecture on your part as the gospel truth, and could be that you are flashing a strobe light to attract people into a later darkness rather than the light. Old Lucifer is a pretty shifty dude.....

Sam