Addictions, bad and good........tattoos of Bible verses; thoughts?

[AnnaGrace]

4 hours ago, Tony the student said:

The Holy One of Israel, the Creator of Heaven and earth is One and only One. God is Life. Life has no beginning and no end. Father God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit is One Spirit. God is Spirit. Jesus told us the flesh means nothing. The body is a tent which fades away with use.

The Trinity reveals simply the relationship between Father and Son and Holy Spirit.

The story of Father and Son reveals the bond, fellowship, and loving relationship between a good father and good son. This is the same way of life we are to live on earth.

Father teaches the Son Father's Way of Life. Christ is born and lives out the perfect example of Father's teaching in Christ's earthly body. When Christ went back to His Creator, His Father, Christ now sits with His Father. The first-born, Annointed Son is the sign of Father's strength.

 

Christ Jesus is the one and only God, He is the Holy One of Israel, Redeemer, Creator, and Savior. He is the beginning and the end, the Alpha and the Omega. 

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Consider the following verses in Isaiah: 

Isaiah 41:4 Who has performed and done this, calling the generations from the beginning? I, the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he.
 
Isaiah 43:10 “You are my witnesses,” declares the LORD, “and my servant whom I have chosen, that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor shall there be any after me.
 
Isaiah 43:25 “I, I am he who blots out your transgressions for my own sake, and I will not remember your sins.
 
Isaiah 46:4 even to your old age I am he, and to gray hairs I will carry you. I have made, and I will bear; I will carry and will save.
 
Isaiah 48:12 “Listen to me, O Jacob, and Israel, whom I called! I am he; I am the first, and I am the last."

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The body (flesh) of Jesus Christ was and will always be a Holy temple. Jesus said, "Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up again". And indeed He did.

After the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus, He spent a period of 40 days with His disciples. During this time Jesus said to them, “Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself. Handle Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have.”  Luke 24:39 

The body of Christ wasn't a tent which faded away with use. His body was an eternal temple that always was and always will be. 

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Respectfully, there is nothing "simply revealed" by the trinity. I've been in Christ for as far back as I can remember but wasn't introduced to the "trinity" until I made the mistake of stepping foot into a denominational church at the age of 20. I can assure you that it causes far more confusion than it does clarity.

You say, "the trinity reveals simply the relationship between Father and Son and Holy Spirit" but the truth is that the wondrous, indescribably majestic complexity of God simply cannot be understood apart from His Spirit (which is not "the third person of the trinity" but is simply HIS SPIRIT; which is Holy because it belongs to He who is Holy). The trinity might succeed in revealing some foreign (fake) god unbeknownst to me, but it certainly doesn't reveal the one true God. He will always reveal Himself to His children and won't ever need the help of a man-made equation called the trinity to do so. 

Edited May 2, 2023 by AnnaGrace

[AnnaGrace]

2 minutes ago, Tony the student said:

Mankind was given the idea of the Trinity by none other than God. This is how we live at peace with the Jewish people and the Islamic people. When you tell others to only see Jesus, then we lose the knowledge Father reveals in the Old Testament.

The idea of the Trinity came from the Roman Catholic Church, a completely God-less institution. Also, I don't know about you, but I don't feel I was called to "live at peace" with everyone in this sinful, fallen world. I was called to speak the truth of Christ at the cost of everything; including my own life. Jesus didn't come tickling ears with what people wanted to hear and neither will I.

[AnnaGrace]

11 minutes ago, Tony the student said:

I used to wonder why our LORD Jesus Christ God laid out His entire testimony as Father and Son.

The term Father means Creator, Parent, Priest. Christ fulfills both roles; however, we as servants of Christ must know and respect His Father. God, the Holy One of Israel, spent centuries telling His story. All of this story pointed to the coming of His Son. The Son came to make every word in the Old Testament come true. Jesus makes the OT and NT a reality and a future. The teaching of the OT cannot be separated from the teaching of the NT. 

This is what I am trying to simply remind people.

Mankind was given the idea of the Trinity by none other than God. This is how we live at peace with the Jewish people and the Islamic people. When you tell others to only see Jesus, then we lose the knowledge Father reveals in the Old Testament.

Also, the God of the OT is the same God of the NT. Jesus is LORD of all. 

[Alive]

4 minutes ago, AnnaGrace said:

The idea of the Trinity came from the Roman Catholic Church, a completely God-less institution. Also, I don't know about you, but I don't feel I was called to "live at peace" with everyone in this sinful, fallen world. I was called to speak the truth of Christ at the cost of everything; including my own life. Jesus didn't come tickling ears with what people wanted to hear and neither will I.

I am curious @AnnaGrace are you indicating that you do not hold to the doctrine of the 'Trinity' That the Word (Jesus Christ), the Father and the Holy Spirit are all three God?

Or put another way, the 'Godhead' made up of three persons.

 

[AnnaGrace]

2 hours ago, Tony the student said:

Nothing happens in Heaven and on earth that God does not give His permission. Even Satan must seek Father's permission to carry out some acts. The best example is Job.

Additionally, Jesus tells us through Paul to, as much it is up to us, live at peace with everyone. Speak the Truth of Christ without changing one word from the Holy Bible. By doing this you will be speaking truth to powerful people. You will place yourself in danger. May the LORD God Almighty in the name of Jesus guide you on your Way.

Thank you brother. 

[HAZARD]

22 hours ago, AnnaGrace said:

Respectfully, I believe it means what it says. The doctrine of the trinity is not biblical; the LORD GOD is one. 

The Godhead, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit in one (unified) Godhead or divinity - so that all three persons are one in unity and eternal substance, but three separate and distinct persons as to individuality (1 John 5:7-8; Daniel 7:9-14; Matthew 3:16-17; 28:19; Acts 7:56-59).”

[AnnaGrace]

2 hours ago, Alive said:

I am curious @AnnaGrace are you indicating that you do not hold to the doctrine of the 'Trinity' That the Word (Jesus Christ), the Father and the Holy Spirit are all three God?

Or put another way, the 'Godhead' made up of three persons.

 

I hold no doctrine that is not explicitly stated in scripture (or those not revealed to me by the Spirit of He that leads me). I also believe scripture speaks for itself and cannot be correctly understood apart from Him. 

Colossians 2:8 says, “see to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.” 

All theology is rooted in philosophy; and the trinity is at the center of all “Christian” theology. 

The trinity is mortal man’s attempt to try and comprehend a completely immortal, eternal, incomprehensible, righteous, holy, and sovereign God. 

[AnnaGrace]

5 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

The Godhead, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit in one (unified) Godhead or divinity - so that all three persons are one in unity and eternal substance, but three separate and distinct persons as to individuality (1 John 5:7-8; Daniel 7:9-14; Matthew 3:16-17; 28:19; Acts 7:56-59).”

“I and the father are one”

John 10:30

[HAZARD]

3 hours ago, AnnaGrace said:

“I and the father are one”

John 10:30

 

[HAZARD]

Just now, HAZARD said:

 

The Trinity Explained.

The word Trinity is not mentioned once in Scripture in the entire Bible. The word Godhead is mentioned three times in; (Acts 17:29; Rom. 1:20; Col. 2:9). The term Godhead simply means that which is divine. It is used of Jesus Himself in (Col. 2:9-10), "For in Him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily," "And ye are complete IN HIM which is the head of all principality and power." (Jesus overcame all principalities and powers by His death and resurrection). We are complete in Him only in unity as He, the Father, and the Holy Ghost are one in unity and not bodily.



The word Trinity means the union of the three persons in the Godhead, each who IS called God and Lord in various Scriptures throughout the Bible, and who are "Self-existent" and "Eternal." In Psalm 110:1; Matt. 22:44; Zech. 2:10-11 we have the Father and the Son both called "Lord," and when we read Ex. 16:7 with Heb. 3:7-8 and Isa. 6:8-9 with Acts 28:25 and Ex. 17:7 with Heb. 3:7-9, and Jer. 31:31-34 with Heb. 10:15-16 these Scriptures prove that the Holy Spirit is also called "Lord." The Holy Spirit is distinctly called God in Acts 5:3-4. Here Peter here askes Ananias, why he kept back part of the price . . . why Ananias let Satan fill his heart to lie to the Holy Ghost . . . and Peter goes on to say Ananias had not lied to men but to God."



God the Father, God the Son, AND God the Holy Ghost, in one (unified) Godhead or divinity, so that all three persons are one in unity and eternal substance, but three separate and distinct persons as to indivuality. Three separate and distinct persons are spoken of in (1 John 5:7). Jesus Himself declared and taught us to go forth and baptize in the name of the Father AND of the Son AND of the Holy Ghost (Matt. 28:19).



Scriptures such as "one Lord" (Deut 6:4) and "one God" (Mal. 2:10) means unitied, or united in one. Similarly, the scriptures "They shall be one flesh" (Gen. 2:24); "the people are one" (Gen. 11:6), do not mean all the people are one in body.



In the beginning God revealed the Godhead as consisting of more than one person. In Gen. 2:26 "And God said, LET US make man in OUR IMAGE, after OUR LIKENESS." Also in Gen. 3:22 He plainly said, "The man is become AS ONE OF US." The phrase "as one of" means "like each person of several persons of the same kind," as proved wherever the statement "as one of" is found in Scripture (Gen. 19:14; 42:27; 49:16; Ex. 12:48; Lev. 19:34; 24:22; Num. 12:12; 2 Sam. 13:13; 14:13; Job 12:4; ect., no person uses such a phrase and not refer to more than one person who could make "us." If God refers to the Godhead as "us" we should take it that He knows what He is talking about and that there are more than one person in the Godhead.



In John 1:1 we have the statement, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." The Word became flesh and dwelt among us in John 1:14. We know the Word God took upon Himself a flesh and bone body and became Jesus. We must ask ourselves which God was the Word with in the beginning in John 1:1? He was with the Father for in (1 Cor. 3:23; 11:3) Paul said that "Christ was God's and God was "the head of Christ." Jesus dwelt amongst us whilst the Father remained in Heaven.



Acts 2:33-39 refers to three separate persons of the deity: It is said of Jesus [one person], "Therefore being BY THE RIGHT HAND of God exalted and having RECIEVED OF THE FATHER [another person] the promise OF THE HOLY GHOST [a third person] He hath shed forth THIS [the Holy Ghost] which ye now SEE and HEAR." Thus TWO persons, Jesus in His flesh and bone body, and the Father who is spirit, stayed in Heaven sitting side by side, and the Holy Ghost (a third person) came from the two in Heaven to take the place of Jesus among men.



If God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost are "one God" in one body, all the Scriptures mentioned above are lies, and if they are lies then the whole Bible cannot be believed.



The fact that the WORD, now Jesus,  took upon Himself a flesh and bone body and that He was resurrected and STILL HAS His flesh and bone body and sits at the Fathers right hand in Heaven in it, (Mark 16:19; Luke 22:69), is proved by His statement to His disciples; "Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have" (Luke 24:39); and to Thomas Jesus said; "Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing" (John 20:27). And Thomas answered and said unto Him, My Lord AND my God" (John 21:28).



How could Jesus, a self confessed flesh and bones being, be sitting at the Fathers right hand [the Father being spirit] in Heaven and be "one" in body with the Father? Jesus Himself said above, "Spirit doth not have flesh and bone as ye see me have." If Jesus and the Father are "one" in body, then the Father must be flesh and bone, or Jesus must be spirit, and this would be a lie. Jesus will have His flesh and bone body for all eternity (Zech. 13:6).



And what was Jesus saying and asking the Father when He prayed to the Father this prayer;



"And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, THAT THEY MAY BE ONE, AS WE ARE" (John 17:11).



And, "That they MAY BE ONE; as thou, Father art IN ME, and I IN THEE, that they MAY BE ONE IN US: that the world may believe that thou has sent me" (John 17:21).



"And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; THAT THEY MAY BE ONE, even AS WE ARE ONE: I in them, and thou IN ME, that they may be made perfect IN ONE; and that the world may know etc., (John 17:22-23). "And I have declared unto them thy name, and I will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, AND I IN THEM" (John 17:26).



Jesus prayed to the Father to keep His disciples and all His followers "one in unity" as He and the Father were. He never asked the Father to allow all the followers and disciples all to get inside one of them and form "one body" as fundamental Christianity wrongly teaches Jesus and the Father are.



Jesus upbraided the disciples not for their misunderstanding, but for their unbelief (Mark 16:13-14), and he will upbraid us as well if we do not believe who He, the Father, and the Holy Spirit are. They are one in unity not body as these plain simple Scriptures state.



Jesus said;



"And the Father Himself, [one person] which hath sent me [another person, hath born WITNESS OF ME. Ye have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His shape (John 5:37). How can this Scripture be true if they are "ONE" as fundamental Christianity teaches?



Jesus instructs us to "Search the Scriptures; for in the ye THINK ye have eternal life: and they which testify of me" (John 5:39). How can we pray to a God if we do not know who He is? Jesus said, "Ask me nothing. Verily verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father IN MY NAME, He will give it you"(John 16:23). The Father never refuses Jesus anything, so when we ask the Father in the Name of Jesus, to the Father its like Jesus asking the Father Himself. They are two separate individual self existant beings, sitting beside each other in Heaven. This is as clear and as simple to believe as any other doctrin in the Bible. Our plain common sense tells us that one person cannot sit beside himself, and God would not expect us to believe He sits beside Himself in two types of bodies, constantly transforming Himself at will, asking Himself questions and invoking prayers in His Jesus Name, and then answering them to His Jesus self as the Father. To believe this theory of Satan, which is continued by men is plain madness.



A God who could not make Himself clear, or had to be interpreted and be declared a mystery is no God at all. Let us believe, like sensible men, that God can make Himself understood. He will hold men responsible for what He says, not for what men interpret His words to say. He has a right to judge men in the end if they constantly make Him false in all that He says, if they listen to satanic theories. "He that rejecteth me, and recieveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day" (John 12:48; Rev. 20:11-15). This should be enough for men to quit the foolishness of changing God's Word to mean anything they want it to mean? It is the height of ignorance for anyone to claim to know God better than He has revealed Himself to be.



The Trinity consists of three divine beings each with their own separate body, soul, and Spirit as over 500 Scriptures prove. To deny this and believe that God is three persons in one body is to believe the theories of men which cannot be supported Scripturally