The Richs who do not share are the same with the poor who cannot give.

[R. Hartono]

You see there are trillions dollars of money saved in international Banks that belong to the rich people, who save their money outside their nations such as Indonesia while the majority are people who struggle for food on daily basis.

They fear financial crisis such as 1998 dollar crisis by Soros Will reduce their Giant saving.

Most rich people do not participate to help the poor, they are just the same with the poor who cannot give. Arent they ?

[grahampaul]

19 minutes ago, R. Hartono said:

You see there are trillions dollars of money saved in international Banks that belong to the rich people, who save their money outside their nations such as Indonesia while the majority are people who struggle for food on daily basis.

They fear financial crisis such as 1998 dollar crisis by Soros Will reduce their Giant saving.

Most rich people do not participate to help the poor, they are just the same with the poor who cannot give. Arent they ?

mountains apart my friend, i have seen more giving amongst the poor than i ever have the rich. they can give a mill an not quiver. see that old baby jumper given, worth a mill at the right time an place.

[grahampaul]

38 minutes ago, R. Hartono said:

You see there are trillions dollars of money saved in international Banks that belong to the rich people, who save their money outside their nations such as Indonesia while the majority are people who struggle for food on daily basis.

They fear financial crisis such as 1998 dollar crisis by Soros Will reduce their Giant saving.

Most rich people do not participate to help the poor, they are just the same with the poor who cannot give. Arent they ?

just curious, have you read mark 12v41 to 45. the widows mite ?

[Neighbor]

26 minutes ago, grahampaul said:

mountains apart my friend, i have seen more giving amongst the poor than i ever have the rich.

Have you considered that  you just don't see because it is not done in a manner that is viewable to you, and that is by very deliberate design?

For if YOU see it that is the giver's reward. 

“Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven.Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward” (Matthew 6:1-2 ESV).

 

[grahampaul]

8 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Have you considered that  you just don't see because it is not done in a manner that is viewable to you, and that is by very deliberate design?

For if YOU see it that is the giver's reward. 

“Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven.Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward” (Matthew 6:1-2 ESV).

 

 

yes i have considered,thank you.

[Sower]

"The Rich who do not share are the same with the poor who cannot give"

 

1 hour ago, grahampaul said:

Most rich people do not participate to help the poor, they are just the same with the poor who cannot give. Arent they ?

 

In 2011, Americans with earnings in the top 20% of income levels contributed, on average, 1.3% of their income to charity. Those at the bottom 20% donated 3.2% of their cash to charity—more than double of what their more-wealthy counterparts donated.

A report from The Chronicle in August 2012 found people who make between $50,000 and $75,000 give an average of 7.6% of their discretionary income to charity, compared to an average of 4.2% for those making $100,000 or more.

HOWEVER;

“This is not to say that the rich don’t give very substantially to human services foundations,” Berger says. “About 70% of all charitable giving in the U.S. is given by the wealthy in this country. If we didn’t have the rich giving the way they are giving, between 70% and 80% of all charitable giving in the U.S. would disappear overnight. Trashing the wealthy isn’t fair.”

 

 

[TrueFollowerOfChrist]

59 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Have you considered that  you just don't see because it is not done in a manner that is viewable to you, and that is by very deliberate design?

For if YOU see it that is the giver's reward. 

“Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven.Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward” (Matthew 6:1-2 ESV).

 

Amen. The irony is that those who truly give in secret with their whole heart could easily be targets of Christians who will accuse them of being selfish because they don't see them give. It's kind of a catch 22. Those who give in the open won't receive a reward from God. Those who give in secret will be falsely judged by their brothers. Rock and a hard place huh?

[grahampaul]

7 minutes ago, Sower said:

Trashing the wealthy isn’t fair.”

 

i see no rich or poor trashed here.

[Sower]

2 hours ago, grahampaul said:

 

i see no rich or poor trashed here.

"Most rich people do not participate to help the poor"

"The Rich's who do not share"

 

Don't understand about why the poor you posted?

“About 70% of all charitable giving in the U.S. is given by the wealthy in this country.    (Read my post/look it up)

America is the most giving of all countries
 

We should not generalize all the rich as unconcerned, and not helping the poor, was/is my point.
There are those rich and poor who do not share, and not just the rich.

This seems to be an ongoing theme here. Perhaps you can help me understand the purpose to me of this thread, grahampaul.
And correct my understanding. I hold no grudge against someone who has worked hard and made a lot of money, rich.
Were it not for the rich I would have no business in my cabinet shop. My shop (God's shop) supports our family.
I do not lay a guilt trip on anyone to give away their money. It is their money. Rich or poor.
I believe most real givers are silent givers that only God knows.

Citizens in the united states are among the most generous in the world, according to an evaluation of global survey data.

Giving not just their money, but blood, and lives...least we forget.

 

[grahampaul]

14 minutes ago, Sower said:

"Most rich people do not participate to help the poor"

"The Rich's who do not share"

 

Don't understand about why the poor you posted?

“About 70% of all charitable giving in the U.S. is given by the wealthy in this country.    (Read my post/look it up)

America is the most giving of all countries
 

We should not generalize all the rich as unconcerned, and not helping the poor, was/is my point.
There are those rich and poor who do not share, and not just the rich.

This seems to be an ongoing theme here. Perhaps you can help me understand the purpose to me of this thread, grahampaul.
And correct my understanding. I hold no grudge against someone who has worked hard and made a lot of money, rich.
Were it not for the rich I would have no business in my cabinet shop. My shop (God's shop) supports our family.
I do not lay a guilt trip on anyone to give away their money. It is their money. Rich or poor.
I believe most real givers are silent givers that only God knows.

Citizens in the united states are among the most generous in the world, according to an evaluation of global survey data.

Giving not just their money, but blood, and lives...least we forget.

 

 

Most rich people do not participate to help the poor"..

not my post.and where did i call into account your patriotic feelings.