Last Daze Posted April 4, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,011 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 2,519 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted April 4, 2023 That key is the truth put forth in Daniel 10 where a messenger is sent from God to Daniel in answer to his prayer. To summarize: * There are certain evil angel princes responsible for bringing nations into a position of exercising dominion. Daniel 10:20 * There are other evil angels associated with these princes referred to as kings. Daniel 10:13 Understanding this fundamental truth of cause (evil angel activity) and effect (world kingdoms) is a necessary component of having a biblical world view and making sense of otherwise confusing prophecies. It helps to explain: * The natural kingdoms of Daniel 2 and the correlation to their angelic princes in Daniel 7. * Why the beast with ten horns in Daniel 7 is seen in Revelation 13 & 17 as also having 7 heads. * The relationship between the mountains and the kings being identified as the seven heads of the dragon in Revelation 17. * The destruction of one evil entity (the harlot) by another (the beast and his 10 horns). And it just unfolds from there. In short, its the effect of Satan's kingdom on the human race (Babylon). The prophets understood this basic, fundamental truth which is why they could be pronouncing judgment on the king of Tyre and transition into speaking about the anointed cherub who covers in Ezekiel 28. Its how a taunt against the king of Babylon turns to address the star of the morning that fell from heaven in Isaiah 14. Its a key that helps discern prophetic context. Anyone else have a passage or biblical truth that opened up prophecy for them? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diaste Posted April 4, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 67 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,629 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 2,368 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/17/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted April 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, Last Daze said: Anyone else have a passage or biblical truth that opened up prophecy for them? God is truth. All prophecy is from God. God does not contradict Himself. Therefore, all prophecy is true and noncontradictory. The consequence of this: all prophetic utterance about any event must be factual, true, noncontradictory and complementary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BibleWords Posted April 4, 2023 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 233 Content Per Day: 0.59 Reputation: 139 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/30/2023 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/20/1957 Share Posted April 4, 2023 You mean all prophecy where God sent the prophet, right? Not just any prophet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJK Posted April 4, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 3,349 Content Per Day: 7.90 Reputation: 1,305 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/01/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted April 4, 2023 40 minutes ago, BibleWords said: Not just any prophet? Which prophets are you referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeighAnn Posted April 4, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,301 Content Per Day: 3.63 Reputation: 1,658 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted April 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Last Daze said: That key is the truth put forth in Daniel 10 where a messenger is sent from God to Daniel in answer to his prayer. To summarize: * There are certain evil angel princes responsible for bringing nations into a position of exercising dominion. Daniel 10:20 * There are other evil angels associated with these princes referred to as kings. Daniel 10:13 Understanding this fundamental truth of cause (evil angel activity) and effect (world kingdoms) is a necessary component of having a biblical world view and making sense of otherwise confusing prophecies. It helps to explain: * The natural kingdoms of Daniel 2 and the correlation to their angelic princes in Daniel 7. * Why the beast with ten horns in Daniel 7 is seen in Revelation 13 & 17 as also having 7 heads. * The relationship between the mountains and the kings being identified as the seven heads of the dragon in Revelation 17. * The destruction of one evil entity (the harlot) by another (the beast and his 10 horns). And it just unfolds from there. In short, its the effect of Satan's kingdom on the human race (Babylon). The prophets understood this basic, fundamental truth which is why they could be pronouncing judgment on the king of Tyre and transition into speaking about the anointed cherub who covers in Ezekiel 28. Its how a taunt against the king of Babylon turns to address the star of the morning that fell from heaven in Isaiah 14. Its a key that helps discern prophetic context. Anyone else have a passage or biblical truth that opened up prophecy for them? a couple passages I believe are speaking to that The war is just like God said: "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." Ephesians 6:12 KJV The UNSEEN war, we are given glimpses of 12Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words. 13But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia. 14Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days. Revelation 16:13-16 13And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. and as we are told again and again and again, AFTER THE WORKINGS OF SATAN, which make sure we can never have a conversation that gets us past whether it is true or not.....HOW CONVENIENT for the other side Eph 3 9And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: 10To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God, 11According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord: 14For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, 16That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; 17That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, 18May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; 19And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelation Man Posted April 5, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4,072 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 553 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/01/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted April 5, 2023 (edited) On 4/4/2023 at 11:26 AM, Last Daze said: That key is the truth put forth in Daniel 10 where a messenger is sent from God to Daniel in answer to his prayer. To summarize: * There are certain evil angel princes responsible for bringing nations into a position of exercising dominion. Daniel 10:20 * There are other evil angels associated with these princes referred to as kings. Daniel 10:13 Understanding this fundamental truth of cause (evil angel activity) and effect (world kingdoms) is a necessary component of having a biblical world view and making sense of otherwise confusing prophecies. It helps to explain: * The natural kingdoms of Daniel 2 and the correlation to their angelic princes in Daniel 7. * Why the beast with ten horns in Daniel 7 is seen in Revelation 13 & 17 as also having 7 heads. * The relationship between the mountains and the kings being identified as the seven heads of the dragon in Revelation 17. * The destruction of one evil entity (the harlot) by another (the beast and his 10 horns). And it just unfolds from there. In short, its the effect of Satan's kingdom on the human race (Babylon). The prophets understood this basic, fundamental truth which is why they could be pronouncing judgment on the king of Tyre and transition into speaking about the anointed cherub who covers in Ezekiel 28. Its how a taunt against the king of Babylon turns to address the star of the morning that fell from heaven in Isaiah 14. Its a key that helps discern prophetic context. Anyone else have a passage or biblical truth that opened up prophecy for them? Beautiful synopsis, and this is also why we are loosing ground we once gained from Satan today, the modern Church does not understand we are in a constant spiritual battle, they just allow the kids to be brainwashed in public schools, then send them to Deabauchery University x, y and z. In Dan. 10, that is Apollyon who resists Michael for 21 days. We can also see this somewhat when Moses holds up the Staff and Israel wins, but when he gets tired Israel starts losing, until Arron and Joshua helped him hold up the Staff. Edited April 5, 2023 by Revelation Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah7 Posted April 5, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,610 Content Per Day: 2.44 Reputation: 3,182 Days Won: 11 Joined: 05/25/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted April 5, 2023 God uses a lot of symbolism to teach us in the book of Revelation and we can especially see it used throughout Chapter 17. But God Himself interprets and explains the meanings of these terms. So once we “hear” His explanation, it’s a lot easier to understand. It’s like God is unveiling all the mysteries for us one by one. And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful. And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth. - Revelation 17:9-18 (KJV) s e l a h 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Daze Posted April 5, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,011 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 2,519 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/17/2014 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 5, 2023 23 hours ago, Diaste said: God is truth. All prophecy is from God. God does not contradict Himself. Therefore, all prophecy is true and noncontradictory. The consequence of this: all prophetic utterance about any event must be factual, true, noncontradictory and complementary. Yes, God is perfect in all His ways and His word is immutable truth without contradiction. We are imperfect and see through a glass dimly. If we approach the prophetic scriptures honestly, we can not abide contradictions. Sometimes a complete reassessment is in order. Sometimes more than one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth7t7 Posted April 5, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,749 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted April 5, 2023 8 hours ago, Selah7 said: God uses a lot of symbolism to teach us in the book of Revelation and we can especially see it used throughout Chapter 17. But God Himself interprets and explains the meanings of these terms. So once we “hear” His explanation, it’s a lot easier to understand. It’s like God is unveiling all the mysteries for us one by one. And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful. And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth. - Revelation 17:9-18 (KJV) s e l a h (Jerusalem) Is The Whore, Mystery Babylon The Great. The Levitical High Priest Dressing represents "The Woman", that is dressed in purple, scarlet, gold, and precious stones as seen below (Revelation) 17:4KJV 4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: Yes "The Woman", The Levitical High Priest, Dressed In Purple, Scarlet, Gold, And Precious Stones (Exodus) 28:15-20KJV 15 And thou shalt make the breastplate of judgment with cunning work; after the work of the ephod thou shalt make it; of gold, of blue, and of purple, and of scarlet, and of fine twined linen, shalt thou make it. 16 Foursquare it shall be being doubled; a span shall be the length thereof, and a span shall be the breadth thereof. 17 And thou shalt set in it settings of stones, even four rows of stones: the first row shall be a sardius, a topaz, and a carbuncle: this shall be the first row. 18 And the second row shall be an emerald, a sapphire, and a diamond. 19 And the third row a ligure, an agate, and an amethyst. 20 And the fourth row a beryl, and an onyx, and a jasper: they shall be set in gold in their inclosings. (Jerusalem) is the seven Mount city, where the woman sits, not Rome as many falsely claim. (Revelation) 17:9KJV 9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. List of cities claimed to be built on seven hills - Wikipedia Jerusalem, Israel: Jerusalem's seven hills are Mount Scopus, Mount Olivet and the Mount of Corruption (all three are peaks in a mountain ridge that lies east of the Old City), Mount Ophel, the original Mount Zion, the New Mount Zion and the hill on which the Antonia Fortress was built. The Roman Empire didnt exist to be guilty of the Prophets blood seen below, Jerusalem did. (Revelation) 18:24KJV 24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth. (Matthew) 23:29-37KJV 29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, 30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets. 31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. 32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. 33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? 34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: 35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. 36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation. 37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Jerusalem (The Woman) that (Great City) as seen below, Jerusalem where Jesus Christ was crucified (Revelation) 17:18AKJV 18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth. (Revelation) 11:8AKJV 8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. Jews/Hebrews cast dust upon their heads, weeping for the (Great City) Jerusalem (Revelation) 18:19 AKJV 19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamL Posted April 5, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 5,119 Content Per Day: 1.48 Reputation: 2,555 Days Won: 4 Joined: 11/06/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/01/1950 Share Posted April 5, 2023 On 4/4/2023 at 10:26 AM, Last Daze said: Anyone else have a passage or biblical truth that opened up prophecy for them? Hebrews 12:18-27, wherein Paul explicitly reveals how the events of the Exodus at Mount Sinai closely foreshadow the events of the Second Coming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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