Adam & Eve - Christ & The Church

[AdHoc]

25 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Nothing connects Jesus to Melchzedek.

Well, I get what you're showing, but besides being of the same order they are both eternal.

3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually. 4 Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils (Heb 7:3–4)

But I agree. This Order remains a mystary

[Anne2]

30 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Nothing connects Jesus to Melchzedek.

Nothing but there is something Melchzedek did that it can remind us of what Jesus did...and he intended doing from the very beginning. 

This is what Melchzedek a priest of God did. (For those who do not know Melhisedeck worship the same God as Abraham). Melchzedek was a real person and he was a King over his Kingdom ( at that time each big city with their surounding area was a Kingdom.)

The Kingdom of Melchzedek was not too far from where Abraham had been stationing in the land of the Hitites or close by.

Abraham was also a Priest of God and he was also a Leader and he had his own people, Abraham was a leader the way the other Kings of that time were...Abraham was not under the comandments of anyone else and he had his own army and he commanded his own srmy.

He was also a warrior. 

He fought against the other Kings who took Lot and the people of Sodom as their slaves after they conquer them in a battle. 

Abraham had confidarates. And one of them was the King of the Hittites and the King of Shalem a City close by whose King was Melchzedek..

Abraham and Melchzedek were contemporaries. And were also confidarates. For that reason they must have met a few times and discussed the conditions and the details of their alliance. 

Why in the Psalms centuries later on the prophetic about someone to come it said about him "that you are a Priest forever in the order of Melhisedec".

These words were spoken to people who were under the Aaronic Preisthood and they knew the duties of Aaronic Priesthood which were written in the book of Deuteronomy and who were discharge their duties in the Temple...

 

The priesthoods were of differing orders.

Ps 110:4  The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.

what do you mean by connection? 

[Anne2]

7 minutes ago, AdHoc said:

Well, I get what you're showing, but besides being of the same order they are both eternal.

3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually. 4 Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils (Heb 7:3–4)

But I agree. This Order remains a mystary

What might be interesting is the difference between the Greek septuagint, from the Hebrew.

Abraham is recognized as a mighty king among them, in the Greek. 

The Hebrew has prince.

Ge 23:6  Hear us, my lord: thou art a mighty prince among us: in the choice of our sepulchres bury thy dead; none of us shall withhold from thee his sepulchre, but that thou mayest bury thy dead.

Kings were anointed ones as well.

[Your closest friendnt]

1 minute ago, AdHoc said:

Well, I get what you're showing, but besides being of the same order they are both eternal.

3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually. 4 Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils (Heb 7:3–4)

But I agree. This Order remains a mystary

Thank you for responding...

I tried to make a point as if we do not know what Hebrews wrote. 

Without making reference to Hebrews...because the prophetic that "you are a Priest forever in the order of Melhisedec" was written before Hebrews...and to the people who believe that the Aaronic Priesthood and the Temple and the vessels and the Ark with it's context will continue forever as they also believe that the Covenant will last forever..

And the Priesthood it was appointed to each Priest to do the service for about 25 years and then to a point their Son waiting to succeed them. Melhisedec did not minister to God from a Temple...never offered sacrifices for the atonement of others...never followed a yearly religious Calendar or sanctified anyone...His contemporaries  like Abraham and the Hittites and the Servants of Abraham and Lot and the king of Sodom knew about him and his kingdom and I suppose they sent him gifts for his birthday... and they will continued their friendship with his children...their children with his children. 

And as Abraham's children can tell others where Abraham was buried, they his children could also tell others where they buried Melhisedec their Father...

Why the prophetic "you are a Priest in the order of Melhisedec "...what Melhisedec did...that it can be used to identify the one for whom was told "you are a Priest in the order of Melhisedec".

Thank you for responding. 

[Anne2]

7 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

I tried to make a point as if we do not know what Hebrews wrote. 

Without making reference to Hebrews...because the prophetic that "you are a Priest forever in the order of Melhisedec" was written before Hebrews...and to the people who believe that the Aaronic Priesthood and the Temple and the vessels and the Ark with it's context will continue forever as they also believe that the Covenant will last forever..

 Melchizedek is a king/priest. The levites were not kings, but were anointed ones too.

Mt 19:28  And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

1Pe 2:9  But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

Edited June 10, 2023 by Anne2

[Your closest friendnt]

@AdHoc I know that they are Zelots about everything there is to be and to have room for Zelots...so I have proposed to make my point without saying anything against any one whether alive or dead.

[Your closest friendnt]

2 minutes ago, Anne2 said:

 Melchizedek is a royal priesthood

Mt 19:28  And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

1Pe 2:9  But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

Because you are polite from A to Z I will let you know something that Melhisedec did who lived before the Aaronic Priesthood...long time ago and that may point that they were others ...if not as kings but they were others as Priests to the Highest God...

Melhisedec said those words not for Abraham and himself but for the other people to know...who was the God of Abraham and to acknowledge that God had given the victory to Abraham and he will always protect him and give him the victory...that Abraham was protected and he could not be harm...the fear of the God of Abraham was in all the people who knew Abraham...they knew that his God is above all God's...because their Gods could not help them to do anything wrong against Abraham. 

Melhisedec did something that Jesus will do later on in his time..

I almost gave it away...

[Your closest friendnt]

22 minutes ago, Anne2 said:

 Melchizedek is a king/priest. The levites were not kings, but were anointed ones too.

Mt 19:28  And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

1Pe 2:9  But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

The Priesthood of Aaron was distributing the Holy Bread only to them selves...this was the ordinance from the beginning...

And they had to do that after they offered sacrifices for the forgiveness of their own sins...time after time...

They will have to offered the Atonement sacrifices for them selves and then for others...

But the Holy Bread was only for them and their families...

This was to be also for their detriment or to Judge them if they ate the Holy Bread unworthy. 

Edited June 10, 2023 by Your closest friendnt

[Anne2]

3 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Because you are polite from A to Z I will let you know something that Melhisedec did who lived before the Aaronic Priesthood...long time ago and that may point that they were others ...if not as kings but they were others as Priests to the Highest God...

Melhisedec said those words not for Abraham and himself but for the other people to know...who was the God of Abraham and to acknowledge that God had given the victory to Abraham and he will always protect him and give him the victory...that Abraham was protected and he could not be harm...the fear of the God of Abraham was in all the people who knew Abraham...they knew that his God is above all God's...because their Gods could not help them to do anything wrong against Abraham. 

Melhisedec did something that Jesus will do later on in his time..

I almost gave it away...

You are losing me. I am having a difficult time understanding you.

My points were about the promises made to Abraham being fulfilled.

Ge 17:6  And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee.
Ge 17:16  And I will bless her, and give thee a son also of her: yea, I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of people shall be of her.
Ge 35:11  And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins;
 

In speaking of Galatians, this same covenant speaks concerning the son of Hagar

Ge 17:18  And Abraham said unto God, O that Ishmael might live before thee!
Ge 17:20  And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation.
 

What it is you are saying I am not sure, but the above am I way off to your thinking?

[Anne2]

23 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Because you are polite from A to Z I will let you know something that Melhisedec did who lived before the Aaronic Priesthood...long time ago and that may point that they were others ...if not as kings but they were others as Priests to the Highest God...

Melhisedec said those words not for Abraham and himself but for the other people to know...who was the God of Abraham and to acknowledge that God had given the victory to Abraham and he will always protect him and give him the victory...that Abraham was protected and he could not be harm...the fear of the God of Abraham was in all the people who knew Abraham...they knew that his God is above all God's...because their Gods could not help them to do anything wrong against Abraham. 

Melhisedec did something that Jesus will do later on in his time..

I almost gave it away...

Oh......when he met with Abraham, he met with the elements.