Let's discuss Revelation 17

[Shilohsfoal]

8 minutes ago, douggg said:

So the Babylonian Empire was named after some king called Babylon ?

The same for the Greek empire was named after some king called Greek ?

The same for the Persian empire was named after some king called Persia ?

... I don't think so.

 

The kingdom of Israel is named after a person believe it or not.But many those who claim that name did not earn it.

They only call themselves by it even though they are not.

 

 

 

Edited June 25, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[Shilohsfoal]

It's not rocket science.

 

 

Mathew 21:43

Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

 

Daniel 7

 

²¹ I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;

²² Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.

[douggg]

24 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

The kingdom of Israel is named after a person believe it or not.But many those who claim that name did not earn it.

They only call themselves by it even though they are not.

 

The nation of Israel got its name for when God changed Jacob's name to Israel.

The little horn person is end times, and emerges outside of Israel.    And Israel the nation over there was not named so because of the little horn person.

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The woman turned prostitute in Revelation 17 is not Jerusalem, nor Israel.    Neither gets destroyed, as Jesus when He returns will be to the Mt. of Olives in Jerusalem.      And the armies that come up against Jerusalem are destroyed.

 

Edited June 25, 2023 by douggg

[Revelation Man]

33 minutes ago, douggg said:

The Jews begin to flee to the mountains when the Aod is setup on Day 1185.

 

No, 1290 days from the time ALL THESE WONDERS END Equals the 1230 (in general with the years Israel have some years have less days) But its nt complicated, Daniel asked Jesus Pre Incarnate in vs. 8 HOW LONG UNTIL THESE THINGS END? And he git this Answer, the AoD will be 1290 days (UNTIL THAT END). Its on you that you can nit grasp what ends the 1290 day period of time. They flee for 30 days from the 1290 to the 1260 Anti-Christ event.

37 minutes ago, douggg said:

As they are fleeing, the two witnesses battle with beast by the plagues of Trumpets 1-4,- providing cover for the fleeing Jews for the 75 days between Day 1185 and Day 1260.  On Day 1260, the beast is finally able to overcome the two witnesses and kills them.

The Jews are in the Petra/Bozrah area of safety BEFORE the DOTL or God's Plagues start. The Beast doesn't over come the coming Two-witnesses, they Prophesy for 126- days, they are killed By Apollyon the Scarlet Colored Beast, there is ZERO REASON for God to let them die save one, by giving them only 1260 days on earth, AND them showing up at the 1335, then we, by JUXTAPOSING the two's (Beast & 2 Witnesses) timelines can understand all end time timelines, but only those of us who grasp it can understand it. 

42 minutes ago, douggg said:

The Jews who missed their opportunity to flee are the ones in Revelation 12:17.

 

No that is the Gentile Church REMNANT. The verse says so.

42 minutes ago, douggg said:

Revelation 12: 17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

 

Revelation 12: 17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman(1/3 who REPENTED), and went to make war with the remnant of her seed(read Gal. 3 Jesus is HER SEED, thus the Gentiles who REPENT after the Rapture are THAT SEED which unlike the Jew are NOT PROTECED), which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

{{ The Jews who REPENTED are in Petra, they are protected, NOT THESE, they are in peril, the Dragon TURNS and goes AFTER them. Thus the Remnant is the Remnant Gentile Church.

[Shilohsfoal]

23 minutes ago, douggg said:

The nation of Israel got its name for when God changed Jacob's name to Israel.

The little horn person is end times, and emerges outside of Israel.    And Israel the nation over there was not named so because of the little horn person.

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The woman turned prostitute in Revelation 17 is not Jerusalem, nor Israel.    Neither gets destroyed, as Jesus when He returns will be to the Mt. of Olives in Jerusalem.      And the armies that come up against Jerusalem are destroyed.

 

Well zech 14 says the nations come against Jerusalem

Revelations shows they are ten kings and a beast from the abyss that have captured Jerusalem on that day.The same beast and ten kings that hate the prostitute.Zechariah calls them nations just as I have and you say I'm wrong.

 

Revelation 17

¹⁶ The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire. 

 

And ofcorse,I'm sure you know what the Quran instructs them to do to Israel.

Exactly what the bible says they will do to her.Thats why they celebrate in the streets of Jerusalem .

PS

the armies that come against Jerusalem are destroyed after they have taken Jerusalem killing everyone they want as well as all the land of Israel.

They have three and a half days to do all the damage they wish.

Edited June 25, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[douggg]

2 minutes ago, Revelation Man said:

No, 1290 days from the time ALL THESE WONDERS END Equals the 1230 (in general with the years Israel have some years have less days) But its nt complicated, Daniel asked Jesus Pre Incarnate in vs. 8 HOW LONG UNTIL THESE THINGS END? And he git this Answer, the AoD will be 1290 days (UNTIL THAT END). Its on you that you can nit grasp what ends the 1290 day period of time. They flee for 30 days from the 1290 to the 1260 Anti-Christ event.

What are you talking about "1230" day ?

In Daniel 8, the AoD is never mentioned.    It is the ToD in Daniel 8:12-14.

You wrote...."They flee for 30 days from the 1290 to the 1260 Anti-Christ event."

Without you presenting a timeline chart, I have no idea of what you are talking about.  Nobody does.

 

[douggg]

4 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Revelations shows they are ten kings and a beast from the abyss that have captured Jerusalem on that day.The same beast and ten kings that hate the prostitute.

No, it doesn't.    Zechariah 14:2 says all nations.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

And Jerusalem is not destroyed, but is rescued by Jesus when He returns to the Mt. of Olives in Jerusalem.

[Shilohsfoal]

13 minutes ago, douggg said:

No, it doesn't.    Zechariah 14:2 says all nations.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

And Jerusalem is not destroyed, but is rescued by Jesus when He returns to the Mt. of Olives in Jerusalem.

Then you have a problem.

The armed forces of the king of the north are stationed in Jerusalem when the king of the south attacks his armed forces in Jerusalem.

Yet you are saying the Israeli governments ally will attack itself in Jerusalem.You are including his nation when you say all nations.

 

Daniel 11:40

At the time of the end the king of the South will engage him in battle, and the king of the North will storm out against him with chariots and cavalry and a great fleet of ships. He will invade many countries and sweep through them like a flood.

 

The king of the norths armed forces begins it's occupation of Jerusalem 42 months prior in Daniel 11:31 .The king of the north does not attack his own forces in Daniel 11:40.

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[Shilohsfoal]

14 minutes ago, douggg said:

No, it doesn't.    Zechariah 14:2 says all nations.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

And Jerusalem is not destroyed, but is rescued by Jesus when He returns to the Mt. of Olives in Jerusalem.

And no ,Jerusalem is destroyed.

It will be completely desolate when Christ and the saints inherit the kingdom.

 

Zech 14

¹¹ And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.

¹² And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth

 

 

 

Funny thing about that abomination that causes desolation placed in Jerusalem by the armed forces of the north on that day.

It causes people's flesh to be consumed while they stand on their feet,it causes eyes to be consumed in their holes and tongues in the mouths .It's a known fact and has been used upon another city before.Hiroshima.

[douggg]

54 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

And no ,Jerusalem is destroyed.

It will be completely desolate when Christ and the saints inherit the kingdom.

Zech 14

¹¹ And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.

Zechariah 14:11 is not referring to destruction of Jerusalem, but the utter destruction around the world that will have taken place during the great tribulation.   And in spite of that utter destruction to places around the world, Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.