The end time has different physics?

[Shilohsfoal]

2 minutes ago, dad2 said:

You said this

"After the ten Islamic countries have defeated the Israeli government armies protecting it and is killing all the Jews.."  You did not specify their leader was not.

Regarding the world being destroyed you said this

 

"The abomination off desolation is not used by the armed forces of the north untill after Jerusalem has been attacked and overcome by its enemies. The reason why there is not a full blown worldwide nuclear war is because it's the armed forces of the king of the north that destroys the middle east.The king of the north is going to destroy the world and doesn't want to.

 

 Unless your English is poor that is exactly what you said.

 

 

 

What was promised to Abraham is only given after Israel is saved. Not today.

The ten Islamic countries are the ten horns of the beast to hat destroy Babylon.

The king of the north,which is the Israeli governments ally will then destroy all of the middle east and those ten Islamic countries.

 

Have you ever heard of the Samson option?

 

[Shilohsfoal]

3 minutes ago, dad2 said:

What saints? How does that relate to the topic, or what we were talking about the last few posts?

We've been discussing these saints for some time now.

Do you understand where the land is that is promised to them?

Do you understand where they are when Gog invades their land that God has given them,?

 

⁴ And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

[Shilohsfoal]

10 minutes ago, dad2 said:

 

 

 

What was promised to Abraham is only given after Israel is saved. Not today.

Have you noticed that none of Israel's neighbor accompany Gog when he invades the land of Israel?

Lebanon,Jordan , Syria,and Egypt  are no where to be found.None of the countries that share the promised land with Israel invade the land of unwalled villages with Gog.Not even the Palestinians .

 

 

 

³ And say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:

⁴ And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:

⁵ Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:

⁶ Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.

[dad2]

22 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

The ten Islamic countries are the ten horns of the beast to hat destroy Babylon.

The king of the north,which is the Israeli governments ally will then destroy all of the middle east and those ten Islamic countries.

 

Have you ever heard of the Samson option?

 

Whatever some nations think is an option may not actually be as things turn out. The bible does not indicate that either the world or the middle east is destroyed in the tribulation.

I am not sure why you call invading forces from the north an ally. And finally the ten horns rule with the AntiChrist and there is no indication they are of the religion of Islam. In fact the AC demands worship of himself and his idol. You are not going to have your 10 kings helping you rule the world being Muslim with actions like that.

[dad2]

17 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Have you noticed that none of Israel's neighbor accompany Gog when he invades the land of Israel?

They do come through the north which means Syria.

17 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Lebanon,Jordan , Syria,and Egypt  are no where to be found.None of the countries that share the promised land with Israel invade the land of unwalled villages with Gog.Not even the Palestinians .

Someone does. So don't claim that there are no unwalled villages.

 

[dad2]

32 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

We've been discussing these saints for some time now.

Do you understand where the land is that is promised to them?

Do you understand where they are when Gog invades their land that God has given them,?

 

⁴ And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

There are lots of saints. There are the saved believers or church. There is the saved Jews that will be saved in the time of Jabcob's trouble. There are the millennium saints, saved in the 1000 years. There are the tribulation saints saved in the tribulation. There are the saints of the old testament. So which ones are you talking about?

[Shilohsfoal]

15 minutes ago, dad2 said:

Whatever some nations think is an option may not actually be as things turn out. The bible does not indicate that either the world or the middle east is destroyed in the tribulation.

I am not sure why you call invading forces from the north an ally. And finally the ten horns rule with the AntiChrist and there is no indication they are of the religion of Islam. In fact the AC demands worship of himself and his idol. You are not going to have your 10 kings helping you rule the world being Muslim with actions like that.

The AC?

Be specific here.

The Israeli government denies Christ . That is the description of antichrist John gave.But no where does it say antichrist demands worship of itself.

Evangelicals worship the Israeli government and want others to worship it also.

 

 

Edited August 7, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[Shilohsfoal]

4 minutes ago, dad2 said:

There are lots of saints. There are the saved believers or church. There is the saved Jews that will be saved in the time of Jabcob's trouble. There are the millennium saints, saved in the 1000 years. There are the tribulation saints saved in the tribulation. There are the saints of the old testament. So which ones are you talking about?

If you don't know then just say you don't know.Do you know what land these saints occupy when Gog invades their land ?

Do you comprehend what land has been promised to them?

 

 

⁴ And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Edited August 7, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[Shilohsfoal]

14 minutes ago, dad2 said:

They do come through the north which means Syria.

Someone does. So don't claim that there are no unwalled villages.

 

Scripture does not say they come through Syria because there is no Syria when Gog invades the land of unwalled villages.

None of the countries from.the Euphrates river to the Nile attack Israel when Gog does because those countries don't exist.Those lands are given to the seed of Abraham when the seed of Abraham comes because they were promised to him.

 

The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ.

Edited August 7, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[dad2]

51 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

The AC?

Be specific here.

The Israeli government denies Christ . That is the description of antichrist John gave.But no where does it say antichrist demands worship of itself.

Evangelicals worship the Israeli government and want others to worship it also.

 

 

The AntiChrist and the ten kings/toes of his kingdom