The end time has different physics?

[Shilohsfoal]

34 minutes ago, dad2 said:

I see, you now claim that the military of the US will set up the abomination Jesus and Daniel spoke about. I would ask for proof, but since you offered none (of course) and the idea is wonky at best, I won't bother. But do feel free to support your claim here.

 

 

 

The moving of Australia and every other island on earth is not caused by some little idol placed in the temple mount. Get over it.

You still haven't said what causes greater tribulation than the abomination of desolation .You want to start guessing?

 

¹⁵ When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

¹⁶ Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

¹⁷ Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

¹⁸ Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

¹⁹ And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

²⁰ But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

²¹ For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

²² And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

[dad2]

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You keep think the entire world will be destroyed

Not true at all. In fact the point was that nature was different then because the world is NOT destroyed!

 

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Scripture shows it's only Babylon and the ten nations who attack it.

Not true. Every nation and island and mountain obviously are not in any city.

 

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perhaps you should go to Australia and warn them of their coming doom.

Believers would already know

[dad2]

11 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

You still haven't said what causes greater tribulation than the abomination of desolation .You want to start guessing?

Why are you claiming there is some greater Trib than the Great Trib exactly? Don't try to pin that on me

11 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

 

 

²¹ For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

²² And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Right, your point? Of course there is a Great Tribulation. It is IN that time when the islands and mountains all move. And no, it is not all because of some little idol set up somewhere.

[Shilohsfoal]

10 minutes ago, dad2 said:

Why are you claiming there is some greater Trib than the Great Trib exactly? Don't try to pin that on me

Right, your point? Of course there is a Great Tribulation. It is IN that time when the islands and mountains all move. And no, it is not all because of some little idol set up somewhere.

There is no greater tribulation than that caused by the abomination that causes desolation.

None.

The stars falling and the great earthquake,and the heavens departing as a scroll being rolled together is caused by the abomination that causes desolation. As Jesus said.

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

 

¹⁵ When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

¹⁶ Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

¹⁷ Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

¹⁸ Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

¹⁹ And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

²⁰ But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

²¹ For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

²² And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

 

 

No greater tribulation,nor ever shall be.

[Shilohsfoal]

And the king of the north does not attack Australia with the abomination that causes desolation.Austalia isn't an enemy.

Daniel 11:44

⁴⁴ But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.

[Shilohsfoal]

27 minutes ago, dad2 said:

Why are you claiming there is some greater Trib than the Great Trib exactly? Don't try to pin that on me

Right, your point? Of course there is a Great Tribulation. It is IN that time when the islands and mountains all move. And no, it is not all because of some little idol set up somewhere.

Subject of this lesson.

The abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel.

 

Results of the abomination that causes desolation.

Great tribulation such as the world has never seen.

 

 

¹⁵ When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

¹⁶ Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

¹⁷ Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

¹⁸ Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

¹⁹ And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

²⁰ But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

²¹ For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

²² And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

[dad2]

49 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

There is no greater tribulation than that caused by the abomination that causes desolation.

Verse that says that the idol causes the Tribulation? I had thought it marked the start of it as Jesus pointed out. No doubt it is a trigger and will result in a lot of rebellion. However I do not recall any verse that says IT is the cause?

49 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

None.

The stars falling and the great earthquake,and the heavens departing as a scroll being rolled together is caused by the abomination that causes desolation. As Jesus said.

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

 

¹⁵ When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

¹⁶ Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

¹⁷ Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

¹⁸ Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

¹⁹ And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

²⁰ But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

²¹ For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

²² And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Nothing in there says it is the abomination set up that caused it.  But you seem to be off on a tangent here.

[dad2]

49 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

And the king of the north does not attack Australia with the abomination that causes desolation.Austalia isn't an enemy.

Daniel 11:44

⁴⁴ But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.

No one said either that a king attacked the Aussies or that this was the great tribulation. Australia was mentioned as one island of all islands that will move in the tribulation.

Once again the point is that when we shove all land masses around, like Australia, this would cause a lot of heat. Focus.

[Shilohsfoal]

2 minutes ago, dad2 said:

Verse that says that the idol causes the Tribulation? I had thought it marked the start of it as Jesus pointed out. No doubt it is a trigger and will result in a lot of rebellion. However I do not recall any verse that says IT is the cause?

Nothing in there says it is the abomination set up that caused it.  But you seem to be off on a tangent here.

Common sense

Idols don't cause desolation.

The armed forces of the north uses weapons to cause desolation.Very destructive weapons.

 

Subject of this lesson.

The abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel.

 

Results of the abomination that causes desolation.

Great tribulation such as the world has never seen.

 

¹⁵ When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

¹⁶ Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

¹⁷ Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

¹⁸ Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

¹⁹ And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

²⁰ But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

²¹ For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

²² And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

3 minutes ago, dad2 said:

No one said either that a king attacked the Aussies or that this was the great tribulation. Australia was mentioned as one island of all islands that will move in the tribulation.

Once again the point is that when we shove all land masses around, like Australia, this would cause a lot of heat. Focus.

You can't shove land masses around.

And the things you quoted in revelation is a description of the abomination that causes desolation.