Heroes of the Faith Speak - THE LAW

[herald2]

Martin Luther - "The first duty of the gospel preacher is to declare God's law and show the nature of sin, because it will act as a schoolmaster and bring him to everlasting life which is in Jesus Christ."

John Wesley - "Before I preach love, mercy, and grace, I must preach sin, law, and judgment."

Wesley later advised a friend, "Preach 90 percent law and 10 percent grace."

Charles Spurgeon - "They will never accept grace until they tremble before a just and holy law."

Charles Finney - "Evermore the law must prepare the way for the gospel; to overlook this in instructing souls is almost certain to result in false hope, the introduction of a false standard of Christian experience, and to fill the church with false converts."

John Wycliffe - "The highest service to which a man may attain on earth is to preach the law of God."

D.L. Moordy - "God, being a perfect God, had to give a perfect law, and the law was given not to save men, but to measure them."

[BlindSeeker]

Amen.

It is sad however that the majority of preachers today would disagree with these statements . . . unless you tell them who was the author of them.

[nebula]

Thanks for these quotes!

[followerofjesus]

We were given the law in order to prove that man couldn't keep it.

[irishcowboy]

we have been taught peace, mercy, tollerance for so long, we have almost forgotten the Laws.....

by knowing the Laws, we find where we have short comings. by knowing the Laws, we also find that there is no way that we can get by with out Christ. if we excuse the Laws, we find ways to prolong, put off, postpone judgement. by excusing the Laws, we continue to be bound by them and their penalties. by accepting the Laws, and the pardon for them we find we are no longer bound to the judgement of them ( this does not mean we have a license to break them, on the contrary, by accepting the Lawmaker, and the Pardon, we become a new person, and will find it easier to keep the Laws...

Very much like driving a car.... if the Speed limit is 30, but there is no speed limit signs, one does not know the Law, the Law still exist, and they are still bound to the penalties ( ignorance of the law is no excuse ) and if we get pulled over doing 50, we will pay the penalty.... not knowing the law will get a person in more trouble then knowing it and following it.

if we know the speed limit is 30 we will be more apt to do 30 then 50.

if we do not teach the laws to the people, how in the world are we going to expect them to know that they need a pardon from them? if they feel that every thing is covered under grace and mercy, and do not have to worry about what they do, we are doing them an injustice, and they will perish, and we will be held responsible for not teaching them correctly.

What reason does anyone have to come to Christ, if they feel that they do not need Him, or if they feel that there are good people out here, and that God will not send a good person to hell. While it is very true, God will not send a good person to hell, I have yet to see ( in the flesh ) a good person. Even Christ said that there was no one that is good, save the Father (God). Christ is the closest thing to being good this earth has ever had walking on it, and He took our sins and hand delivered them, so that we would not have to see the pits of hell.

we must ensure that the entire Gospel is shared, not just bits and pieces, we do not have much time left, As Christ Said, we can read the weather, but we have a hard time reading the signs of the times.

I am not saying we should pound people over the head with the law, just teach them that they do exist and they are for us to follow, but the only way to do this, is through Christ.

mike

[EricH]

The real trick is to teach these concepts in a way that is meaningful for the hearers, so that they perceive it the way God intended them to perceive it

[Kabowd]

"For the Law was given through Moses; grace and truth were realized through Jesus Christ." ~ John 1:17

[nebula]

Krk Cameron has a great teaching about how he uses the Law to bring people to salvation -

After all, how will they know they need to be saved if they don't know why they are in need of salvation?

[herald2]

Your comments are so encouraging...Someone responded with this quote, "In answer to your inquiry, I consider that the chief dangers which confront the coming century will be religion without the Holy Ghost, christianity without Christ, forgiveness without repentance, salvation without regeneration, politics without God, and heaven without hell." William Booth 1829-1912, in response to an inquiry at the turn of the century.

Often, people struggle with the Scripture, "Be ye perfect, as your Father in heaven is perfect." Recently, a Scripture came alive to me in a new way, "Now the end of the commandment is love out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned..."1 Timothy 1:5 and "I thank God, whom I serve from my forefathers WITH PURE CONSCIENCE..." 11 Timothy 1:3. Brethren, that, is what perfection is - a pure conscience. God's standard of righteousness - His law, reveals our sin. We come to Him in repentance and He circumcises our hearts. That is sanctification...the bride must be prepared for the heavenly bridegroom!

These forums give us an incredible opportunity to come together, from our various denominations, and exalt the Word of God, alone. Just as the harlot and her daughters (Revelation 17) are coming together, so the Lord longs to bring together his flock, back to the Word of God. Let's examine our various traditions in the light of the word, and come back to the pure, unadulterated word of the living God...amen

[Kabowd]

If the purpose of the law is to reveal our sin, what is it's purpose once sin is revealed?

What is the role of the law in the life of one who has already been forgiven of sins? Do you believe it's purpose changes once redemption has occurred? Or do you believe obedience to the law is necessary to secure salvation?