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We should not add to it. I will marginalize the scientific validity of the creation stories just to hinder Creationist fanaticism from inserting itself into the message of salvation.

Is that a wise thing to do?

Does it help unify Christians and the Church in agreement so we can attain the power that God tells us we have when we are in agreement?

Just wondering.

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20 minutes ago, FJK said:

Does it help unify Christians and the Church in agreement so we can attain the power that God tells us we have when we are in agreement?

Pushing the creation stories as a condition of Christian faith causes derision and strife. This hinders would be believers sense the literal interpretation has contradictions to itself, with other creation narratives in the Bible and with observations in nature outside of the question of man's origin. Modification of biology is the least of the problems.

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14 minutes ago, Scott Free said:

Pushing the creation stories as a condition of Christian faith causes derision and strife.

What other parts of the Bible should we ignore to avoid this?

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28 minutes ago, FJK said:

What other parts of the Bible should we ignore to avoid this?

It might also be safe to not include the 613 laws of Torah to the Gospel of Faith. Or, should we give a literal interpretation of that as well. What if we found a kitten in a drain one day on Saturday and faced this moral conundrum?

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It might also be safe to not include the 613 laws of Torah as well to the Gospel of Faith. Or, should we give a literal interpretation of that as well. What if we found a kitten in a drain one day on Saturday and faced this moral conundrum?

So it's just a book of fairy tales that can mean anything we want it to mean in accord with our state of mind at the moment?

This will unify Christians and bring them the power pf unity and agreement Jesus told us we have or is that just a fairy tale as well?

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11 minutes ago, FJK said:

So it's just a book of fairy tales that can mean anything we want it to mean in accord with our state of mind at the moment?

The creation stories were told by ancient Israelite's passing down the knowledge of God's glory to the next generation. Well before the Torah. It shares some similarity with the pagan version when it come to the breath of life, but a central difference was that Israel's God creates on His own, with no divine melodrama or lengthy plot.

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The creation stories were told by ancient Israelite's passing down the knowledge of God's glory to the next generation. Well before the Torah. It shares some similarity with the pagan version when it come to the breath of life, but a central difference was that Israel's God creates on His own, with no divine melodrama or lengthy plot.

That's not a very direct answer, it seems to evade the question and avoid a direct answer.

If you think it -the Bible- is a fairy tale that is replaced by modern knowledge and men's wisdom then just say so directly and to that point.

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So it's just a book of fairy tales that can mean anything we want it to mean in accord with our state of mind at the moment?

That's taking it to an extreme. A subtle understanding of a scriptures history, context and etymology is helpful. Taking everything literal according to our personal point of view as it is written in English is not the best approach.

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That's taking it to an extreme. A subtle understanding of a scriptures history, context and etymology is helpful. Taking everything literal according to our personal point of view as it is written in English is not the best approach.

I believe all scripture is the inspired word of God and is true as written, apparently you are of a different mind.

There is no reconciliation of this.

 

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I believe all scripture is the inspired word of God and is true as written, apparently you are of a different mind.

All the Bible is inspired by God. It is written to cater to the understanding of those it concerns. The context changes from one generation to the next as Israel of God grows. Abraham's knowledge is different from Moses as it is from Isaiah to the Apostles. Because earlier scripture can be more vague, God's inspiration is still in it.

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