The Hope of Eternal Life

[Mr. M]

Titus 3:

4 But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, 

5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy

He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, 

6 whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 

7 that having been justified by His grace we should become heirs

according to the hope of eternal life.

8 This is a faithful saying, and these things I want you to affirm constantly,

that those who have believed in God should be careful to maintain good works.

These things are good and profitable to men.

Romans 8:

23 Not only that, but we also who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, 

even we ourselves groan within ourselves, eagerly waiting for the adoption,

the redemption of our body. 

24 For we were saved in this hope, but hope that is seen is not hope;

for why does one still hope for what he sees? 

25 But if we hope for what we do not see, we eagerly wait for it with perseverance.

Therefore, we can conclude that those who hold to this hope of eternal life must

commit to a life of good works in accordance with the Father's Will, and not become

bogged down with vain wrangling of doctrines that state that this is "works based"

attempts to earn salvation. This is what is required of those who are called and chosen,

to be faithful. This is toward finding and knowing Him, not merely knowing of Him.

Jeremiah 29:

11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the Lord, thoughts of peace

and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope. 

12 Then you will call upon Me and go and pray to Me, and I will listen to you. 

13 And you will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all your heart.

Matthew 7:

7 Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock,

and it will be opened to you. 

8 For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds,

and to him who knocks it will be opened.

[Who me]

Romans 2:4 do you show contemptfor the riches of his ( God's) kindness, forbearance and patience, not realising that God's  kindness is meant to lead you to repentance?

 

[FreeGrace]

The Greek word 'elpis' is translated as 'hope' in the NT.  However, it doesn't mean how it is used today.  Today, 'hope' is used for "wishful thinking", as in "I hope I'm going to heaven when I die".  There is no confidence at all, just wishful thinking.

The Greek word means a confident expectation, which is a strong word for assurance.  

So, the "hope of eternal life" is a confident expectation of eternity with God.  

[Buzzard3]

2 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

The Greek word means a confident expectation, which is a strong word for assurance.  

Intelligence-insulting nonsense.  Hope is never  "a strong word for assurance".   Stop twisting Scripture to suit your OSAS doctrine.  What are you afraid of?

Edited October 4, 2023 by Buzzard3

[enoob57]

Depends on how much of God’s Word you ingest…

Hebrews 11:1 (KJV)

¹Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
 

Romans 10:17 (NKJV)

¹⁷So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. 

[Mr. M]

3 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

The Greek word 'elpis' is translated as 'hope' in the NT.  However, it doesn't mean how it is used today.  Today, 'hope' is used for "wishful thinking", as in "I hope I'm going to heaven when I die".  There is no confidence at all, just wishful thinking.

The Greek word means a confident expectation, which is a strong word for assurance.  

So, the "hope of eternal life" is a confident expectation of eternity with God.  

 

On 9/11/2023 at 8:32 AM, Mr. M said:

25 But if we hope for what we do not see, we eagerly wait for it with perseverance.

The operative word for the lesson is not assurance, but the exhortation to

patient endurance, or perseverance. [G5281] hupomone

I will provide a link for how often this word appears in the apostolic doctrine

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/g5281/nkjv/tr/0-1/

[Mr. M]

48 minutes ago, Buzzard3 said:

Intelligence-insulting nonsense.  Hope is never  "a strong word for assurance".   Stop twisting Scripture to suit your OSAS doctrine.  What are you afraid of?

Hebrews 10:36 For you have need of endurance,

so that after you have done the will of God, 

you may receive the promise:

OSAS does seem to be a dodge to the requirement

to actually be obedient, and perform the Will of God.

What promise will those who have not be receiving?

[FreeGrace]

3 hours ago, Buzzard3 said:

FreeGrace said: 

The Greek word 'elpis' is translated as 'hope' in the NT.  However, it doesn't mean how it is used today.  Today, 'hope' is used for "wishful thinking", as in "I hope I'm going to heaven when I die".  There is no confidence at all, just wishful thinking.

The Greek word means a confident expectation, which is a strong word for assurance.  

So, the "hope of eternal life" is a confident expectation of eternity with God.  

Intelligence-insulting nonsense.

Insults don't have any effect on me.  I care what the Word of God says, and I try to help those who misunderstand it.

3 hours ago, Buzzard3 said:

  Hope is never  "a strong word for assurance".   Stop twisting Scripture to suit your OSAS doctrine.  What are you afraid of?

I'm really curious about this.  I gave the Greek meaning of the Greek word.  Why do you ignore the original language?  Do you think Paul wrote in English?

As to "twisting Scripture", what a hoot!  I EXPLAINED the meaning of the Greek word, and I also explained HOW the English translation that is in use today isn't even close to the Greek meaning of 2,000 years ago.

If you aren't impressed with what the original language means, then I have to conclude that you really aren't interested in what the Bible says.  And since you claim that salvation CAN be lost, that would put you in the "wishful thinking" category in regards to "hope of eternal life".

Anyway, I shared the actual meaning of 'elpis'.  What you do or do not do with it is between you and God.

But the Bible teaches eternal security whether you understand that or not.  And UNAMBIGUOUSLY.

[FreeGrace]

2 hours ago, Mr. M said:

The operative word for the lesson is not assurance

The operative word IS assurance, as that is what 'elpis' means in the Koine Greek of 2,000 years ago.

Or, confident expectation.  Which is assurance.

2 hours ago, Mr. M said:

, but the exhortation to patient endurance, or perseverance. [G5281] hupomone I will provide a link for how often this word appears in the apostolic doctrine https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/g5281/nkjv/tr/0-1/

I was addressing the Greek word translated as "hope", which means confident expectation.  Which is assurance of salvation.

I am fully aware that no Arminian can say they are assured of salvation.  The idea seems anathema to them.  Even though it is taught throughout the Scriptures.

[FreeGrace]

2 hours ago, Mr. M said:

Hebrews 10:36 For you have need of endurance, so that after you have done the will of God, 

you may receive the promise:

In Hebrews, 'the promise' is in regard to the "inheritance".  What was the promised inheritance to the Exodus generation?  The promised land.  Which does not parallel salvation, but reward.  The Jews had to fight to conquer the land and possess it.  The land WAS a blessing and reward, but they had to be obedient to God and fight for it.

Not even close to salvation, which is a grace gift, free of charge.

2 hours ago, Mr. M said:

OSAS does seem to be a dodge to the requirement to actually be obedient, and perform the Will of God.  What promise will those who have not be receiving?

The command to be obedient is never attached to salvation, or that would indicate salvation by works, which is thoroughly debunked by Rom 4:4,5 and Eph 2:8,9.

The promise of eternal reward is what disobedient children of God won't be receiving.