1948 is not a Sign of the Coming of Jesus.

[douggg]

2 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

But you are unable to show any scripture in the book of Ezekiel any wars that take place after Ezekiels final war of Gog.

None.

 

There is nothing in the book of Ezekiel about Satan being placed in the bottomless pit prison.

The last rebellion of the nations, including the Gog/Magog nations in Revelation 20:7-10, is because they are deceived one last time by Satan, who will be released from the bottomless pit prison in verse 7.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

[Shilohsfoal]

1 hour ago, douggg said:

There is nothing in the book of Ezekiel about Satan being placed in the bottomless pit prison.

The last rebellion of the nations, including the Gog/Magog nations in Revelation 20:7-10, is because they are deceived one last time by Satan, who will be released from the bottomless pit prison in verse 7.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

The last rebellion in Ezekiel is GogMagog nations in chapter 38-39.

 

No more war after the that.

 

Edited November 3, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[douggg]

30 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

The last rebellion in Ezekiel is GogMagog nations in chapter 38-39.

 

No more war after the that.

 

nope.   Nothing in Ezekiel 38-39 about Satan being released from the bottomless pit prison.

[Shilohsfoal]

1 hour ago, douggg said:

nope.   Nothing in Ezekiel 38-39 about Satan being released from the bottomless pit prison.

Where do you think Gog gets the idea from.?

 

Nothing about any wars after Ezekiel 38-39 because there are none.

As for the war in Ezekiel 38 that you didn't know about.That is the war of armegeddon.The war in which the land of Israel must recover from.The war in which all the walls come tumbling  down.

Edited November 3, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[douggg]

2 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Where do you think Gog gets the idea from.?

Satan has not yet been placed in the bottomless pit prison to be released from. 

In the Revelation 20:7-10 event he is released from the bottomless pit prison.

[Shilohsfoal]

17 minutes ago, douggg said:

Satan has not yet been placed in the bottomless pit prison to be released from. 

In the Revelation 20:7-10 event he is released from the bottomless pit prison.

Ezekiel does not say Satan has not been placed in the bottomless Pitt.

Ezekiel only shows the Gog Magog war in Ezekiel 38-39 is the last and final war in the entire book of Ezekiel.

There are no more wars after it.

 

That's why you could not show there are any.Because there are none.

[TrueFollowerOfChrist]

10 hours ago, Diaste said:

Yes, and that did happen, just as foretold.

It is not a sign of the nearness of Christ's return. 

Israel had to be a nation again in the land of Canaan for the end of the age to commence, but it doesn't signal 70 years, 80 years, 120 years to the end of the age or Jesus return. Or the rapture, or whatever other event people think it presages.

Jesus tells us what to look for in the Olivet Discourse. The end of the age passages in the Discourse presuppose Israel as a nation in the land, not foretell that as a marker of the Lord's near arrival. 

 

The rest of Isaiah 66 tells about a restored Israel where it enjoys peace and safety. So the connection could be made that soon after Israel becomes a nation again, Israel will enjoy their peace and safety, probably because Jesus came back. 

 

Also the problem with using the message of the Gospels trying to pinpoint the return of Jesus, he said that Nation would rise against Nation and that there would be Wars and famines and earthquakes. The only problem with that is that those things have always existed even before Jesus, therefore we really don't have a very good measuring rod of simply seeing things that have always been and saying these are signs of the return of Jesus when they weren't signs for centuries before.

[Shilohsfoal]

47 minutes ago, TrueFollowerOfChrist said:

The rest of Isaiah 66 tells about a restored Israel where it enjoys peace and safety. So the connection could be made that soon after Israel becomes a nation again, Israel will enjoy their peace and safety, probably because Jesus came back. 

 

Also the problem with using the message of the Gospels trying to pinpoint the return of Jesus, he said that Nation would rise against Nation and that there would be Wars and famines and earthquakes. The only problem with that is that those things have always existed even before Jesus, therefore we really don't have a very good measuring rod of simply seeing things that have always been and saying these are signs of the return of Jesus when they weren't signs for centuries before.

Jesus said he would return at the time of a specific war.One that would take place in the land of Israel itself.

 

The place called Armageddon is in Israel.When you see the kings east of Israel in Israel then you know that is the war Jesus was speaking of .

 

Revelation 16

 

 

¹² And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

¹³ And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

¹⁴ For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

¹⁵ Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

¹⁶ And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

[douggg]

3 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Ezekiel does not say Satan has not been placed in the bottomless Pitt.

Ezekiel only shows the Gog Magog war in Ezekiel 38-39 is the last and final war in the entire book of Ezekiel.

There are no more wars after it.

 

That's why you could not show there are any.Because there are none.

There is nothing in Ezekiel about the 1,000 year reign of Christ, nor about the beast and false prophet being cast into the lake of fire, nor Satan being cast into the bottomless pit - before the event in Ezekiel 38-39....

Because the Ezekiel 38-39 event is not the Revelation 20:7-10 event !

 

[TrueFollowerOfChrist]

2 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Jesus said he would return at the time of a specific war.One that would take place in the land of Israel itself.

 

The place called Armageddon is in Israel.When you see the kings east of Israel in Israel then you know that is the war Jesus was speaking of .

 

Revelation 16

 

 

¹² And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

¹³ And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

¹⁴ For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

¹⁵ Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

¹⁶ And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

Except that Armageddon happens at the end of the Tribulation. If that's what Jesus really meant, I think it would have been easier to simply mention that than the other signs people are looking for.