Israel’s war against Islamic messianism

[Scott Free]

"Today’s Islamic eschatology demands Israel’s destruction in order to bring on the end of days."

 "However, it is claimed, none of this can take place if there is a Jewish state in the middle of the ummah (the Islamic world). This can mean that the Jewish state is delaying the final triumph of Islam."

 "Unfortunately, a final, meaningful peace settlement between Israel and the Palestinians will never take place until these messianic ideas are vanquished militarily or intellectually. This will not happen overnight."

Israel’s war against Islamic messianism - Jewish News Syndicate

Edited October 29, 2023 by Scott Free

[Shilohsfoal]

The war of armegeddon,in which the Islamic nations around the Jewish state defeat and destroy the Jewish state isn't that far away.Then the United states can  use a small part of its vast nuclear stockpile to destroy everything from Iran to Egypt .Problem solved.

Then the seed of Abraham can ride in and inherit the land promised to him.An everlasting kingdom that will never be taken or destroyed. The kingdom of Israel.

[Keras]

On 10/30/2023 at 6:46 AM, Shilohsfoal said:

he war of armegeddon,in which the Islamic nations around the Jewish state defeat and destroy the Jewish state isn't that far away.Then the United states can  use a small part of its vast nuclear stockpile to destroy everything from Iran to Egypt .Problem solved.

It is plainly stated in the Bible, that God intends to solve the problems in the Middle East Himself. Psalms 83, Zephaniah 1:14-18, 2 Peter 3:7, Revelation 6:12-17, +

On 10/30/2023 at 6:46 AM, Shilohsfoal said:

Then the seed of Abraham can ride in and inherit the land promised to him.An everlasting kingdom that will never be taken or destroyed. The kingdom of Israel.

We Christian Peoples are the true seed of Abraham and we will travel to and settle in all of the holy Land. As described in Psalms 107. The new nation of Beulah Isaiah 62:1-5

[Shilohsfoal]

2 minutes ago, Keras said:

It is plainly stated in the Bible, that God intends to solve the problems in the Middle East Himself. Psalms 83, Zephaniah 1:14-18, 2 Peter 3:7, Revelation 6:12-17, +

We Christian Peoples are the true seed of Abraham and we will travel to and settle in all of the holy Land. As described in Psalms 107. The new nation of Beulah Isaiah 62:1-5

God has already solved the problem.It was solved long ago.

The only thing that needs to be done is the war of Armegeddon in which the kings of the earth go to Israel and conquer the land of Israel.Then the United States destroys it all.You don't believe God has given the United states government the power to do that but indeed he already has.God will use the united states government like the puppet goverment he made it to be.

[Shilohsfoal]

10 minutes ago, Keras said:

It is plainly stated in the Bible, that God intends to solve the problems in the Middle East Himself. Psalms 83, Zephaniah 1:14-18, 2 Peter 3:7, Revelation 6:12-17, +

We Christian Peoples are the true seed of Abraham and we will travel to and settle in all of the holy Land. As described in Psalms 107. The new nation of Beulah Isaiah 62:1-5

PS

You are not going to be able to take the promised land away from the saints of Israel that live and die in Israel and are resurected .Dont even think you can .

Edited November 3, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[Keras]

9 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

PS

You are not going to be able to take the promised land away from the saints of Israel that live and die in Israel and are resurected .Dont even think you can .

I can't but God will; Ezekiel 21:1-5....I shall do away with both the righteous and the wicked......In the Land of Israel. 

The fanciful dispensation belief of a general Jewish redemption, is false and never Prophesied to happen, Isaiah 22:14

The only 'saints' who will be resurrected, will be the GT martyrs, when Jesus Returns, Revelation 20:4

[Diaste]

This could get out of hand over there fairly quickly.

Listening to a podcast yesterday and an analyst is convinced the Islamic world is experiencing growing outrage over the Palestinian plight, due in large part to the photos and pictures and screenshots of the too young dead and wounded coming out of Palestine.

He seems to think it's unique as the outcry against Israel for this is coming from Eastern Muslim countries like Indonesia, et al.

It doesn't help that Erdogan is incessantly bloviating over the evils of Israel, never offering a solution for the Palestinians, except for reducing Israel to a memory.

I don't know if this is a unique situation in that the Islamic world is self righteously indignant, hypocritically so, about the Israel/Palestinian conflict or not. I'm pretty sure all of Islam is upset, and always has been, the Jews even exist. Nothing like brotherly hate spanning millennia.

Is this the time for a solution? Is this the time for someone to step in and calm the tension and stop the bloodshed? 

 

[Shilohsfoal]

6 hours ago, Keras said:

I can't but God will; Ezekiel 21:1-5....I shall do away with both the righteous and the wicked......In the Land of Israel. 

The fanciful dispensation belief of a general Jewish redemption, is false and never Prophesied to happen, Isaiah 22:14

The only 'saints' who will be resurrected, will be the GT martyrs, when Jesus Returns, Revelation 20:4

 

Did you just not realize you said God will take the land away from the resurected saints in Israel and give it to you?

 

The resurected saints in revelation 20 are the saints I'm talking about.They are Israelis in their own land.

 

¹³ And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,

¹⁴ And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.

 

And you thing God is going to take the land away from these resurected saints of Israel and give you the land he promised to them.

 

Your dreaming.

[Keras]

7 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Your dreaming.

You simply fail to read the many Prophesies which tell of how al the Christian peoples will live in all of the holy Land.

Events now unfolding in the Middle East are rapidly bringing closer the apocalyptic scenario as predicted in many prophetic scriptures, mainly Psalms 83, Revelation 6:12-17, Joel 2:1-11, Zephaniah 3:8, Zechariah 12:1-10.  As described, the Lord Himself intervenes and destroys a massive attack from an Islamic confederation. He will 'uproot' all the ungodly peoples from the entire Middle East region, Including Judah. Jeremiah 12:14

The Messiah Jesus reveals Himself personally to the people surviving in Israel. Isaiah 6:13, Isaiah 29:1-4  At this time, those remnant Christian Jews will receive a spirit of compassion and will mourn ‘over Him whom they pierced. Zechariah 12:10-14.

Psalms 83 begins by describing a united conspiracy against Israel. Their aim is total annihilation of the Jewish State of Israel, to occupy all the Land and to wipe out any remembrance of them. Although each of the tribal groups mentioned is a historic enemy of Israel and has fought against them on various occasions, there is no record that they ever joined in such an alliance. All of the modern nations who are descendants of the peoples mentioned in Psalms 83, are currently obsessed with an Islamic inspired determination to completely eliminate the Jewish State of Israel.

 

Psalms 81:13-15 O that My people would listen to Me, that Israel would walk in My ways!   I would soon subdue their enemies and turn My hand against their adversaries. The haters of the Lord pretend submission to Him, but their fate will endure forever.

Verse 15 tells of a people who hate God when they think in their minds that they submit to Him. The word Islam, means submitters to god: their god, Allah.

So then, when we read in Psalms 83:2 For your enemies raise an uproar, those who hate you hold their heads high, it is saying that the enemies mentioned, are those who believe they submit to God, but in reality are full of religious pride and are in fact haters of the true God.

 

Psalms 83:18 So let it be known that You, whose name is Jesus are alone the Most High over all the earth.

The reason that the Lord will be so powerfully victorious in this coming war, is to witness to all unbelievers, especially the Ishmaelite peoples, who will then recognise the true religion and Islam will be discredited.

 

The writer of Psalms 83, the prophet Asaph, prays that Israel’s current enemies will be just as soundly defeated as were the Midianites, etc, when their armies were scattered and their leaders executed. When this prayer is answered, the holy Land will be a much bigger country, it will include all the area given by God to Abraham. Isaiah 25:13, Micah 7:11

There will be a terrible loss of life, as well as large numbers of refugees, who will flee from all the Mid east countries. But a holy remnant will survive in Jerusalem. After the Land is cleaned and regenerated, then all the true descendants of Jacob and those grafted in, all the Christian Israelites of God,  will be motivated to emigrate to the New Israel. [Beulah; Isaiah 62:1-5] There, they will be an example to the world of how all should live and 144,000 of them will go out to all peoples and preach the coming Kingdom of Jesus.  Revelation 14:1-7, Isaiah 66:19.                        

[Shilohsfoal]

6 hours ago, Keras said:

You simply fail to read the many Prophesies which tell of how al the Christian peoples will live in all of the holy Land.

Events now unfolding in the Middle East are rapidly bringing closer the apocalyptic scenario as predicted in many prophetic scriptures, mainly Psalms 83, Revelation 6:12-17, Joel 2:1-11, Zephaniah 3:8, Zechariah 12:1-10.  As described, the Lord Himself intervenes and destroys a massive attack from an Islamic confederation. He will 'uproot' all the ungodly peoples from the entire Middle East region, Including Judah. Jeremiah 12:14

The Messiah Jesus reveals Himself personally to the people surviving in Israel. Isaiah 6:13, Isaiah 29:1-4  At this time, those remnant Christian Jews will receive a spirit of compassion and will mourn ‘over Him whom they pierced. Zechariah 12:10-14.

Psalms 83 begins by describing a united conspiracy against Israel. Their aim is total annihilation of the Jewish State of Israel, to occupy all the Land and to wipe out any remembrance of them. Although each of the tribal groups mentioned is a historic enemy of Israel and has fought against them on various occasions, there is no record that they ever joined in such an alliance. All of the modern nations who are descendants of the peoples mentioned in Psalms 83, are currently obsessed with an Islamic inspired determination to completely eliminate the Jewish State of Israel.

 

Psalms 81:13-15 O that My people would listen to Me, that Israel would walk in My ways!   I would soon subdue their enemies and turn My hand against their adversaries. The haters of the Lord pretend submission to Him, but their fate will endure forever.

Verse 15 tells of a people who hate God when they think in their minds that they submit to Him. The word Islam, means submitters to god: their god, Allah.

So then, when we read in Psalms 83:2 For your enemies raise an uproar, those who hate you hold their heads high, it is saying that the enemies mentioned, are those who believe they submit to God, but in reality are full of religious pride and are in fact haters of the true God.

 

Psalms 83:18 So let it be known that You, whose name is Jesus are alone the Most High over all the earth.

The reason that the Lord will be so powerfully victorious in this coming war, is to witness to all unbelievers, especially the Ishmaelite peoples, who will then recognise the true religion and Islam will be discredited.

 

The writer of Psalms 83, the prophet Asaph, prays that Israel’s current enemies will be just as soundly defeated as were the Midianites, etc, when their armies were scattered and their leaders executed. When this prayer is answered, the holy Land will be a much bigger country, it will include all the area given by God to Abraham. Isaiah 25:13, Micah 7:11

There will be a terrible loss of life, as well as large numbers of refugees, who will flee from all the Mid east countries. But a holy remnant will survive in Jerusalem. After the Land is cleaned and regenerated, then all the true descendants of Jacob and those grafted in, all the Christian Israelites of God,  will be motivated to emigrate to the New Israel. [Beulah; Isaiah 62:1-5] There, they will be an example to the world of how all should live and 144,000 of them will go out to all peoples and preach the coming Kingdom of Jesus.  Revelation 14:1-7, Isaiah 66:19.                        

Obviously I haven't read that.

So show me the verses where God says he will take the land of Israel from the resurected saints of Israel and give it to you as you claimed.

Edited November 5, 2023 by Shilohsfoal