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1 hour ago, douggg said:

When the 7th angel sounds, it is the beginning of the end for Satan, and his grip over the nations.   There will rejoicing in heaven because the time has finally come for Satan's end. 

When Satan is cast down to earth, he will have a time/times/half time left, which will be concurrent with the 42 months reign of the beast-king.

When Jesus returns, the beast-king will be cast into the lake of fire, along with the false prophet.     And Satan bound and cast into the bottomless pit.

When the 7ty Trump sounds,Christ will have already returned and will reign.

 

15 The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said:

“The kingdom of the world has become
    the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah,
    and he will reign for ever and ever.”

 

 

where do you see the beast reigning with Christ after the kingdom of this world has become Christs?

 

Read the text.Dont add anything to it.

Where does it say the beast reigns with Christ?


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9 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

When the 7ty Trump sounds,Christ will have already returned and will reign.

The 7th angel sounding his trumpet announces the third woe.

The third woe takes place before Jesus returns.

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Revelation 8

13And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!

5th trumpet - first woe,  revealed in Revelation 9

6th trumpet - second woe, revealed in Revelation 9

7th trumpet - third woe, revealed in Revelation 12

The third woe is the great wrath that Satan will have because being cast down to earth knowing that he only a short time left.     The time/times/half time.

Revelation 12:

12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

 

 

 

 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, douggg said:

The 7th angel sounding his trumpet announces the third woe.

The third woe takes place before Jesus returns.

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Revelation 8

13And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!

5th trumpet - first woe

6th trumpet - second woe

7th trumpet - third woe.

The third woe is the great wrath that Satan will have because being cast down to earth knowing that he only a short time left.     The time/times/half time.

Revelation 12:

12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

 

 

 

 

15 The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said:

“The kingdom of the world has become
    the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah,
    and he will reign for ever and ever.”

 

 

THe kingdom of this world has become Christs and he shall reign forever.

 

Where do you see the beast reigning with Christ in his  kingdom for another 3.5 years?


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Posted (edited)
13 minutes ago, douggg said:

The 7th angel sounding his trumpet announces the third woe.

The third woe takes place before Jesus returns.

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Revelation 8

13And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!

5th trumpet - first woe

6th trumpet - second woe

7th trumpet - third woe.

The third woe is the great wrath that Satan will have because being cast down to earth knowing that he only a short time left.     The time/times/half time.

Revelation 12:

12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

 

 

 

 

Oh I see now where you have made a great mistake believing the wrath of God is the wrath of Satan.

This verse is speaking of the wrath of God,not the wrath of Satan after the 7th Trump.

Revelation 11

17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

 

The beast is destroyed at this time.It does not reign another 3.5 years.

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Posted
49 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Oh I see now where you have made a great mistake believing the wrath of God is the wrath of Satan.

This verse is speaking of the wrath of God,not the wrath of Satan after the 7th Trump.

Revelation 11

17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

 

The beast is destroyed at this time.It does not reign another 3.5 years.

The seven vials of God's wrath in Revelation 16 are poured out during the 42 months reign of the beast king.

The time/times/half time that Satan will have left after being cast down to earth will coincide with the 42 months reign of the beast king.


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8 hours ago, douggg said:

The seven vials of God's wrath in Revelation 16 are poured out during the 42 months reign of the beast king.

The time/times/half time that Satan will have left after being cast down to earth will coincide with the 42 months reign of the beast king.

That's 42 months.Not seven years.

The beast does not reign after the 7th Trump.The beast reigned the previous 42 months.

 

Christ reigns after the 7th Trump.

 

15 The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said:

“The kingdom of the world has become
    the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah,
    and he will reign for ever and ever.”

 

 

Your problem comes from not know the difference between good and bad.You believe the two witnesses of Jesus who kill and torment other people are doing good because they come in Jesus name.

How would you like it if someone came to your house and tormented your family and done it in Jesus name,?You going to say they are good ?You going to say they are doing what Jesus wants them to do if they kill your family members ?

ALso the beast that comes up out of the sea is not the same beast that ascends out of the abyss.The beast that comes up out of the sea is the one who reigns for a other 42 months after the arrival of the beast with two horns.The beast that ascends out of the abyss reigns in Jerusalems for 3.5 days and then it is destroyed when the seventh trump sounds.The beast does not reign with Christ..

 

15 The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said:

“The kingdom of the world has become
    the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah,
    and he will reign for ever and ever.”


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Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

That's 42 months.Not seven years.

The beast does not reign after the 7th Trump.The beast reigned the previous 42 months.

The beast-king will be cast alive into the lake of fire at Jesus's Return.

Therefore, the 42 months of the beast king's reign will be right before then.

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The sequence is...

the 1260 days of the two witnesses

then the 7th angel sounds

them in heaven rejoice because the time for the end of Satan's control over the nations has come.     And the time of God's wrath has come as well.

Satan cast down to earth in Revelation 12.    Having a time/times/half time left.    Coinciding with time of God's wrath poured out during the 42 months reign of the beast king.

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in simple terms....

first half - 1260 days of the two witnesses

second half -

the 7th angel sounds, 4 days into it.

the 42 months beast king's reign / time, times, half time Satan's final days.

Jesus Returns - beast king and false prophet cast into the lake of fire ; Satan cast into the bottomless pit.

 

 

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Posted
4 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Your problem comes from not know the difference between good and bad.You believe the two witnesses of Jesus who kill and torment other people are doing good because they come in Jesus name.

How would you like it if someone came to your house and tormented your family and done it in Jesus name,?You going to say they are good ?You going to say they are doing what Jesus wants them to do if they kill your family members ?

Revelation 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.


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Posted
55 minutes ago, douggg said:

The beast-king will be cast alive into the lake of fire at Jesus's Return.

Therefore, the 42 months of the beast king's reign will be right before then.

-----------------------------

The sequence is...

the 1260 days of the two witnesses

then the 7th angel sounds

them in heaven rejoice because the time for the end of Satan's control over the nations has come.     And the time of God's wrath has come as well.

Satan cast down to earth in Revelation 12.    Having a time/times/half time left.    Coinciding with time of God's wrath poured out during the 42 months reign of the beast king.

-----------------------------------

in simple terms....

first half - 1260 days of the two witnesses

second half -

the 7th angel sounds, 4 days into it.

the 42 months beast king's reign / time, times, half time Satan's final days.

Jesus Returns - beast king and false prophet cast into the lake of fire ; Satan cast into the bottomless pit.

 

 

There is no first half and second half of anything in revelation.

There is only 42 months which you plainly can not comprehend.

The beast is destroyed the same time the two witnesses are resurected from the dead .This resurrection takes place at Christs coming.

 

The two witnesses dont resurrect themselves from the dead.

 

 

15 The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said:

“The kingdom of the world has become
    the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah,
    and he will reign for ever and ever.”

 

 

Christ reigns at the sound of the seventh Trump.The beast is destroyed at that time.The beast does not rule another 42 months with Christ in Christs kingdom.

 

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, douggg said:

Revelation 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

God gave power to Pontis Pilate but that doesn't mean his works were good.

You should read the gospel and learn what Jesus wants his servants to do and what not to do.Then you should know if what the two witnesses of Christ are doing what they are told in the gospel or not.

 

PS

The woman flees into the wilderness when these two witnesses who come in Jesus name start their occupation of Jerusalem.The woman must stay in the wilderness till they die.1260 days.

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