Time passes during the 7 years

[douggg]

23 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

So you believe the nations celebrating in Jerusalem are not with the beast that ascended out of the abyss and attacked Jerusalem?

Interesting.And you don't believe the nations in Jerusalem attacked Jerusalem when the word of God says they do.

 

² For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

 

As I have stated over and over - Zechariah 14 is at Jesus's Return and takes place at the end of the 7 years.    Look at my chart, right side.   Do you see where I show "Jesus Returns to the Mt of Olives"?

Differently, the 1260 days of the two witnesses end in the middle of the 7 years.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

4 minutes ago, douggg said:

As I have stated over and over - Zechariah 14 is at Jesus's Return and takes place at the end of the 7 years.    Look at my chart, right side.   Do you see where I show "Jesus Returns to the Mt of Olives"?

Differently, the 1260 days of the two witnesses end in the middle of the 7 years.

 

Your chart does not agree with scripture.

Jesus returns and raises the two witnesses from the dead.That is resurection day and it is Jesus in the clouds of heaven.The seventh Trump sounds and the kingdom of this world has become the kingdom of the Lord and of Messiah.Same as zech 14.

Zech 14

⁹ And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

Revelation 11

 

¹⁵ The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said:

“The kingdom of the world has become
    the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah,
    and he will reign for ever and ever.”

 

Throw away your charts and believe the word of God for a change.

[Montana Marv]

5 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

The false prophet and the beast are destroyed when the abomination of desolation is placed in Jerusalem.They are cast into the lake of fire which is in the center of the cloud caused by the AOD.

It's the AOD that causes the great earthquake and the cloud to ascend from Jerusalem at the time of the seventh Trump.

Again, when is Armageddon?

In Christ

Montana Marv

[douggg]

4 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Your chart does not agree with scripture.

Jesus returns and raises the two witnesses from the dead.That is resurection day and it is Jesus in the clouds of heaven.The seventh Trump sounds and the kingdom of this world has become the kingdom of the Lord and of Messiah.Same as zech 14.

My chart agrees totally with scripture.     What does not agree with scripture is your understanding of the timing of Zechariah 14 and when the 7th angel sounds during the 7 years.

When Jesus returns, every eye with see Him.   Does not happen in Revelation 11.    Not in the text.

Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Revelation 1:7  Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

 

 

 

Edited December 15, 2023 by douggg

[Shilohsfoal]

5 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

Again, when is Armageddon?

In Christ

Montana Marv

It starts when the king of the south attacks and kills  the king of the norths armed forces in Israel.It ends with the king of the north destroying much of the middle east and north Africa with nuclear weapons.

It begins here ,at the time of the end.

 

 

⁴⁰ And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

⁴¹ He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.

⁴² He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.

⁴³ But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.

⁴⁴ But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.

 

The nuclear missile (AOD)that hits Jerusalem strikes Jerusalem 3.5 days after the king of the south kills the two witnesses captures jerusalem.Evidence of this is the earthquake that shakes Jerusalem and the cloud with ascends from Jerusalem containing the two witnesses.

 

It's not that hard to understand.Its in many books of the bible.And just so you know,there are many witnesses in the norths armed forces.Last time I liked,about 70 percent of those armed forces claim to be in Christ.Many of its generals are witnesses.

 

 

Edited December 15, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[Shilohsfoal]

1 hour ago, douggg said:

My chart agrees totally with scripture.     What does not agree with scripture is your understanding of the timing of Zechariah 14 and when the 7th angel sounds during the 7 years.

When Jesus returns, every eye with see Him.   Does not happen in Revelation 11.    Not in the text.

Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Revelation 1:7  Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

 

 

 

There are no seven years.

It takes 3.5 days from the day the nations take Jerusalem to the day the United states nukes them all.

You got it all wrong .You've been adding where you shouldn't have.

[douggg]

6 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

There are no seven years.

It takes 3.5 days from the day the nations take Jerusalem to the day the United states nukes them all.

You got it all wrong .You've been adding where you shouldn't have.

Revelation 12:6-17 contain the 7 years.

The 1260 days in Revelation 12:6 comprise the first half.

The time, times, half time in Revelation 12:14 comprise the second half.

Revelation 12:6-17 is about what the Jews, Israel, will experience in the end times.    Nothing in Revelation 12 is about the church.    The church does not have any 7-year period assigned to it.

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The judgement on the kings of the earth and their armies is... 

1. By Jesus against the armies surrounding Jerusalem, in Zechariah 14, Revelation 19:19-21.

2. The destruction of armies gathered at Armageddon which had not moved down to surround Jerusalem, but still fill the land of Israel, will be by the angel in Revelation 14:17-20.   I suggest you read those verses.

 

 

Edited December 15, 2023 by douggg

[Shilohsfoal]

1 hour ago, douggg said:

Revelation 12:6-17 contain the 7 years.

The 1260 days in Revelation 12:6 comprise the first half.

The time, times, half time in Revelation 12:14 comprise the second half.

Revelation 12:6-17 is about what the Jews, Israel, will experience in the end times.    Nothing in Revelation 12 is about the church.    The church does not have any 7-year period assigned to it.

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The judgement on the kings of the earth and their armies is... 

1. By Jesus against the armies surrounding Jerusalem, in Zechariah 14, Revelation 19:19-21.

2. The destruction of armies gathered at Armageddon which had not moved down to surround Jerusalem, but still fill the land of Israel, will be by the angel in Revelation 14:17-20.   I suggest you read those verses.

 

 

False.

The 1260 days the woman flees into the wilderness is the time,time and a half the woman flys into the wilderness.

You adding when you shouldn't.

 

Revelation 12

⁶ And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

 

¹⁴ And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

[douggg]

4 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

False.

The 1260 days the woman flees into the wilderness is the time,time and a half the woman flys into the wilderness.

You adding when you shouldn't.

 

Revelation 12

⁶ And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

 

¹⁴ And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

The sequence in Revelation 12 is 1260 days, then the war in heaven (the second heaven) time, then the time, times, half time.

The total is 7 years.

The abomination of desolation setup until Jesus returns is 1335 days (Daniel 12:11-12).    The 1335 days can fit into 7 years - but the 1335 days cannot fit into 1260 days.

 

Edited December 15, 2023 by douggg

[Montana Marv]

11 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

It starts when the king of the south attacks and kills  the king of the norths armed forces in Israel.It ends with the king of the north destroying much of the middle east and north Africa with nuclear weapons.

It begins here ,at the time of the end.

 

 

⁴⁰ And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

⁴¹ He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.

⁴² He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.

⁴³ But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.

⁴⁴ But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.

 

The nuclear missile (AOD)that hits Jerusalem strikes Jerusalem 3.5 days after the king of the south kills the two witnesses captures jerusalem.Evidence of this is the earthquake that shakes Jerusalem and the cloud with ascends from Jerusalem containing the two witnesses.

 

It's not that hard to understand.Its in many books of the bible.And just so you know,there are many witnesses in the norths armed forces.Last time I liked,about 70 percent of those armed forces claim to be in Christ.Many of its generals are witnesses.

 

 

Where within the Trumpet judgments does this Armageddon happen.  Nice to know.

Antiochus Epiphanes the Syrian king gives a different story  (Daniel 11:31) "they will set up the "A/D" which according to history was the sacrifice of a swine.  This is a type of the A/D in the 70th Week.

You have a lot undocumented ideas.

According to Rev 9:20.  The rest of mankind who were not killed by these plagues of the 6th Trumpet, still did not repent, and did not stop worshiping demons and idols.  I have no idea of any claim of 70% claiming to be in Christ.  They worship demons and idols.

In Christ

Montana Marv