Born Again And Born Again Scripture.

[LisaLola]

Can we discuss this scripture?..so far no one wanted to discuss the last long scripture that I posted?..maybe I’m being impatient.

 

Galatians 5:16-26

New King James Version

Walking in the Spirit

16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

 

My words...when we become Born Again of the Spirit, we aren’t under the law we are under grace.

Therefore we learn via the Holy Spirit to walk in the Spirit ....remember we have just been brought into God’s Kingdom as a new babe, we have been Born Again of imperishable seed, we are the adopted children of God, only the Holy Spirit can bring our will in line with the will of God....which is called the sanctification process, whereby through the power of the Spirit,( notice I say the power of the Spirit...there is no power in us, we are at the mercy of Gods Holy Spirit) we are being made more and more into the image of Jesus....then we have the renewing of our minds...that is the part i struggle with at times, my old mind set doesn’t want to die, but, as we grow and mature in Christ, it gets less and less...

 

 

 

19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: [a]adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, [c]murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told youin time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 [d]gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. 24 And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.

 

Edited January 12, 2024 by LisaLola

[Your closest friendnt]

Jesus knowing that the day will come when Nicodemus will hear the Gospel from the disciples after his death on the Cross (Jesus foretold to Nicodemus that he will see him dead on the Cross) from the preaching of the disciples Nicodemus believed that Jesus was the promised Messiah and that he died for the forgiveness of our sins and then he would have remembered the words of Jesus who had told him that when you seem me lifted up in the same way Moses lifted up the Serpent in the dessert and believe then you will be born from above from God. Jesus foretold to him that will happen in the way he described it when he said just like the wind which means when someone believes in Jesus Christ that he died for his sins and is the Slain Lamb of God then he is born from above just like that without having any special ceremony or any ritual and without the help of the Priests.  Jesus said to Nicodemus who was in the family of God because of Abraham and his obedience to the Law that God will have a New family and that if he wants to be in the new family of God he will have to believe in him after his death on the Cross for the forgiveness of his sins. Nicodemus needed to be born from the old Testament family of God to the new testament family of God the family born from the Spirit of God from above by faith alone in Jesus Christ. 

[Debp]

2 hours ago, LisaLola said:

That is nowhere to be found in Gods word.those words make no sense to my heart/spirit.

Off topic.   But just explaining "OSAS"....it means eternal security (once saved, always saved).   That we cannot lose our salvation.   

[LisaLola]

◄ 1 John 1:8 ►

Audio    Crossref    Comment    Greek  Verse  (Click for Chapter) New International Version If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. New Living Translation If we claim we have no sin, we are only fooling ourselves and not living in the truth. English Standard Version If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. Berean Standard Bible If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.   ◄ 1 John 3:9 ►  Audio    Crossref    Comment    Greek  Verse  (Click for Chapter) New International Version No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. New Living Translation Those who have been born into God’s family do not make a practice of sinning, because God’s life is in them. So they can’t keep on sinning, because they are children of God. English Standard Version No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. Berean Standard Bible Anyone born of God refuses to practice sin, because God’s seed abides in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God. Berean Literal Bible Anyone having been born of God does not practice sin, because His seed abides in him, and he is not able to continue sinning, because he has been born of God   This imo is misunderstood by many, of course we deceive ourselves if we claim to be without sin..we were all sinners, that was until we became Born Again of imperishable seed. For God word says, a Born Again does not carry on sinning because they have been Born Again of imperishable seed...the Spirit of God can’t in dwell the heart/ spirit of a sinner.   Therefore we have that new heart/ Spirit within, ..,,it’s the old man/ mindset, our old in the world thinking, we were programmed by the world and our experiences in life, there are so many contributing factors to why we thought the way we thought.   Te renewing of our mind starts as soon as we become Born of the Spirit, of course this must be learnt and understood via the Spirit. i was shown by God yesterday, that I was reacting in my old mindset ..rather than acting in my new mind ,which is of Christ...Christ thinking not LisaLola thinking....every time a negative ungodly thought comes into my mind, we are to take it captive....just my thoughts..Love you all in the name of Jesus.

 

 

Edited January 12, 2024 by LisaLola

[LisaLola]

Would you all agree that we are unable to grow in Gods Love, if we still want to hold on to our old mindset?

i believe God has set me free this morning from my old mindset and I know I will be tested,,,if that truth of God’s word has penetrated deep into my heart/ spirit....the enemy will NEVER be able to get me to act out in the old mindset again?

Does anyone agree with this?

What say you @Starise?

 

or should that be “ Chewbacca” hehehe,lol,xoxo

Edited January 12, 2024 by LisaLola

[FreeGrace]

6 hours ago, LisaLola said:

I was not Born Again by reading my Bible,

I will repeat;  the ONLY WAY to be born again is to put your full trust in the work of Jesus Christ on the cross for your sins.  Period.

That is made very clear in the account of Cornelius, from Acts 10 and 11.  Peter clearly equated receiving the Spriit (baptized) with believing the gospel. 

I hope you'll read it.  

[FreeGrace]

5 hours ago, LisaLola said:

I was using Born Again exactly how Jesus brought me to understand it...I was Born Again exactly how Jesus explains to Nicodemus

Actually, not.  Jesus used the words as a verb.  iow, "to be born again".

I'll use that in a sentence.  In order to enter the kingdom, one must be born again.  So Jesus was telling Nic HOW to enter the kingdom.

5 hours ago, LisaLola said:

 

 

[FreeGrace]

5 hours ago, LisaLola said:

That is nowhere to be found in Gods word.those words make no sense to my heart/spirit.

The letters stand for "once saved, always saved".  Is that phrase familiar to you?

Those exact words are not found in the Bible, but Jesus very clearly taught that every believer is eternally secure from the MOMENT of faith in Him.  

Would you like to see the verses?

[FreeGrace]

1 hour ago, LisaLola said:

Would you all agree that we are unable to grow in Gods Love, if we still want to hold on to our old mindset?

i believe God has set me free this morning from my old mindset and I know I will be tested,,,if that truth of God’s word has penetrated deep into my heart/ spirit....the enemy will NEVER be able to get me to act out in the old mindset again?

Does anyone agree with this?

Partly agree.  Yes, the Bible is clear about changing our fleshly mindset to a spiritual mindset, and apart from doing that, there can be no spiritual growth at all.  

However, this is a moment by moment challenge.  We aren't permanently set free from returning to our fleshly mindset.  Paul made that clear in 1 Cor 3 when he called the Corinthian believers fleshly or carnal.  He confirmed their salvation throughout his first epistle to them yet he called them carnal.  

And Satan (the enemy) is always "prowling around seeking someone to devour", per 1 Pet 6:8.  He doesn't need to devour unbelievers because he simply blinds them to the truth.  So this verse is a warning to believers, or as you would say, to born agains.

1 hour ago, LisaLola said:

 

 

[LisaLola]

9 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

The letters stand for "once saved, always saved".  Is that phrase familiar to you?

Those exact words are not found in the Bible, but Jesus very clearly taught that every believer is eternally secure from the MOMENT of faith in Him.  

Would you like to see the verses?

Hello FreeGrace..no it’s not..i can only go by my becoming Born Again of the Spirit.

The only way I believe when one  is truly saved from eternal damnation, is when they have become Born Again of imperishable seed...nothing else makes sense to me.

im not saying you are wrong, I just don’t understand being saved that way.

Edited January 12, 2024 by LisaLola