Born again

[LisaLola]

◄ 1 Peter 1 ►

King James Bible  Par ▾  Greetings from Peter (2 Peter 1:1-2)   1Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, 2Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied. A Living Hope 3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, 5Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. 6Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations: 7That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ: 8Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: 9Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. 10Of which salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: 11Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. 12Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into. A Call to Be Holy (Hebrews 12:14-17)   13Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ; 14As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance: 15But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; 16Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy. 17And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear: 18Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; 19But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: 20Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, 21Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God. The Word of the Lord Stands Forever (Isaiah 40:6-8) 22Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: 23Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. 24For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: 25But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

[Duck]

If and when a person is born again. It will be obvious.

Their empathy and compassion will be real.

The flesh will have no dominion over them.

They will overcome sin, in fact, the old sin and nature will be abhorrent to them.

Jesus led captivity captive. He makes all things new... The old has gone, the new has come

[Neighbor]

On 1/26/2024 at 4:05 PM, Duck said:

If and when a person is born again. It will be obvious.

Their empathy and compassion will be real.

The flesh will have no dominion over them.

They will overcome sin, in fact, the old sin and nature will be abhorrent to them.

Jesus led captivity captive. He makes all things new... The old has gone, the new has come

Hi, Don't think so. For though fully justified  by way of Yeshua's willing sacrifice, each individual still has a long sojourn, a sanctification, that is a progressing process to perfection. In that process there is still a mighty conflict ongoing, within each  born again individual.

Awareness of sin, and it's eternal consequence, does not  equate to sinlessness, only that sin is an evil that cannot be overcome except by the covering of blood of an innocent lamb, the passover lamb Yeshua.

 His sacrifice did not erase sin, for I have sinned, I do sin, I will sin. This is my fate while in this corrupted flesh that Yeshua has covered, along with it's consequence, it's penalty, fully in the sight of God, Father Son and Holy Spirit.

 I know that I will sin this very day. I know Yeshua has me covered, that I may survive eternally because of His sacrifice alone, and not by my perfection  nor my merit.

 I do have need to ask of my Lord each day, "Is it good between you and me? "What need  I learn about  and or change  this day even?" As a simple tune suggests, I have need to  have a little talk with Jesus....

I cannot stand on my own, not at all! What has changed in me on being born again is the love of the changes I need be making each day.

[Duck]

On 1/28/2024 at 10:32 AM, Neighbor said:

His sacrifice did not erase sin,

Yes it did

Behold, The Lamb of God, Who takes away the sin of the world.

born again Christians shouldn't sin, but, IF we do, we have can advocate with The Father Jesus Christ, The righteous...thats IF we sin, not when

john also wrote, he who sins, is of the devil

 

[Neighbor]

On 1/26/2024 at 4:05 PM, Duck said:

Their empathy and compassion will be real

The empathy and compassion of an atheist may be equally as real as any Christian's might be .

[D. Adrien]

8 hours ago, Duck said:

Yes it did

Behold, The Lamb of God, Who takes away the sin of the world.

born again Christians shouldn't sin, but, IF we do, we have can advocate with The Father Jesus Christ, The righteous...thats IF we sin, not when

john also wrote, he who sins, is of the devil

 

I want to hear how you place God first in everything and in every way in life, in accordance with the Commandment Jesus gave His followers.

Mat. 22:36-38 (ESV)

“Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment

Please kindly explain how you accomplish this without sinning?

[Duck]

8 hours ago, D. Adrien said:

want to hear how you place God first

This is the new commandment that Jesus gave in mark 12:30. 'You shall Love The Lord, with all your heart, soul, mind and strength'. Jesus added 'mind' to the original commandment. That's our volition or will.

We need to 'want' to put God first, before we start.

To 'be on The Lord's side' takes effort.

Paul taught believers to 'take every thought captive, to the obedience of Jesus Christ'.

This is v. difficult to do, but practice, in this case, really does make perfect.

a 'known' transgression is a bit different to a sin of ignorance.

both are sins, but we can only control what we know is a sin. we humans can actually control our sins. Just by saying no!, choosing life, etc.

How about you? How do you manage to put God first?

Edited February 25, 2024 by Duck

[Duck]

14 hours ago, Neighbor said:

The empathy and compassion of an atheist may be equally as real as any Christian's might be .

I have known empathetic atheists. They usually empathise with animals more than people. They "Worship the creature, rather than The Creator" (rom 1)

A born again Christian has a heart changed by The Holy Spirit of God- they automatically become more like Jesus.

Outside of Jesus, humanity is plain selfish (self-centred Christians, are not born again)

[Neighbor]

26 minutes ago, Duck said:

I have known empathetic atheists. They usually empathise with animals more than people. They "Worship the creature, rather than The Creator" (rom 1)

A born again Christian has a heart changed by The Holy Spirit of God- they automatically become more like Jesus.

Outside of Jesus, humanity is plain selfish (self-centred Christians, are not born again)

Hi, Sorry but I  couldn't disagree more!

[D. Adrien]

1 hour ago, Duck said:

This is the new commandment that Jesus gave in mark 12:30. 'You shall Love The Lord, with all your heart, soul, mind and strength'. Jesus added 'mind' to the original commandment. That's our volition or will.

We need to 'want' to put God first, before we start.

To 'be on The Lord's side' takes effort.

Paul taught believers to 'take every thought captive, to the obedience of Jesus Christ'.

This is v. difficult to do, but practice, in this case, really does make perfect.

a 'known' transgression is a bit different to a sin of ignorance.

both are sins, but we can only control what we know is a sin. we humans can actually control our sins. Just by saying no!, choosing life, etc.

How about you? How do you manage to put God first?

Hi Duck,

I rely on His grace and mercy. I agree about controlling what stays in my mind, but I fall short in keeping the Eternal above everything else in my every waking moment. If I could walk without sin, there wouldn't be any reason for relying upon Jesus.