The Swastika and the Shatkona

[The Hare]

The universality of both symbols suggests a common point of origin. It must have been a place where people had a common language, had a unified social structure and belief system — all bound together by a single paramount figure. This place would have been brimming with high sorcery, to the extent where its citizens thought they could supplant their own Creator. This would have been the first One World Government. 

https://drmathewmaavak.substack.com/p/the-swastika-and-the-shatkona

[Michael37]

14 minutes ago, The Hare said:

The universality of both symbols suggests a common point of origin. It must have been a place where people had a common language, had a unified social structure and belief system — all bound together by a single paramount figure. This place would have been brimming with high sorcery, to the extent where its citizens thought they could supplant their own Creator. This would have been the first One World Government. 

https://drmathewmaavak.substack.com/p/the-swastika-and-the-shatkona

The cross has a long history too.

[Who me]

1 hour ago, The Hare said:

The universality of both symbols suggests a common point of origin. It must have been a place where people had a common language, had a unified social structure and belief system — all bound together by a single paramount figure. This place would have been brimming with high sorcery, to the extent where its citizens thought they could supplant their own Creator. This would have been the first One World Government. 

https://drmathewmaavak.substack.com/p/the-swastika-and-the-shatkona

It's amazing  how people so readily  reject the truth in preference  for lies.

Genesis tells us of a perfect world spoilt by man's sin and of man's attempt to manipulate God through a unifing  tower.

It's not hi duism that has the true history of the world but the bible.

[enoob57]

We're so blessed by God's love for us and giving us the truth... Scripture is the objective truth of s/Spiritual realities beyond the death and lies of this place...

[The Hare]

14 hours ago, Michael37 said:

The cross has a long history too.

True. But it is not as universal outside organized Christendom. I don't really see stylised crosses featured in temples etc. 

[Marathoner]

15 hours ago, Michael37 said:

The cross has a long history too.

Indeed. The Egyptian ankh is a good example of a stylized cross used by pagans; it found new life in the modern neopagan movement. It was a hieroglyphic symbol which meant "life." 

Petroglyphs in European caves used by ancient cults feature variations of the so-called "sun cross," a cross inside of a circle. It should be pointed out that the Coptic Church uses a variation of that sun cross in their iconography. The Chinese pictographical number for 10 is a cross, to consider other examples apart from the ankh.

Too much emphasis is placed upon symbols. The cross as a symbol is nothing new. There really is nothing new under the sun. 

Edited April 15, 2024 by Marathoner

[Anne2]

27 minutes ago, Marathoner said:

Indeed. The Egyptian ankh is a good example of a stylized cross used by pagans; it found new life in the modern neopagan movement. It was a hieroglyphic symbol which meant "life." 

Petroglyphs in European caves used by ancient cults feature variations of the so-called "sun cross," a cross inside of a circle. It should be pointed out that the Coptic Church uses a variation of that sun cross in their iconography. The Chinese pictographical number for 10 is a cross, to consider other examples apart from the ankh.

Too much emphasis is placed upon symbols. The cross as a symbol is nothing new. There really is nothing new under the sun. 

All I know is the mention of a star on Jewish coinage, comes from scripture, as prophetic of Messiah Numb 24:17. The star the wise men seen, looking for him born king of the Jew's. 

1. Simeon Bar Kochba:

   • The leader of this revolt was Simeon bar Kosiba.
   • His real name was Simeon ben Kosiba.
   • The sobriquet Bar Kochba, meaning “Son of a Star,” was given to him based on the verse from Numbers 24:17: “A star shall go forth from Jacob.”
   • This messianic appellation reflected the hope that he would lead the Jews to victory against Roman oppression¹².
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[Sower]

How the Symbolism of the Swastika Was Ruined

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The earliest known use of the swastika symbol—an equilateral cross with arms bent to the right at 90° angles—was discovered carved on a 15,000-year-old ivory figurine of a bird made from mammoth tusk. The ancient engraving is hypothesized to have been used for fertility and health purposes, the pattern similar to one that is found naturally occurring on the mammoth—an animal that has been regarded as a symbol of fertility.

From its earliest conception, the symbol is believed to have been positive and encouraging of life. The modern name for the icon, derived from the Sanskrit svastika, means “conducive to well-being.” It has been used by cultures around the world for myriad different purposes throughout history: as a symbol in Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism; as a stylized cross in Christianity; in ancient Asiatic culture as a pattern in art; in Greek currency; in Medieval, Renaissance, and Baroque architecture; and on Iron Age artifacts. While the symbol has a long history of having a positive connotation, it was forever corrupted by its use in one cultural context: Nazi Germany.

In 1920 Adolf Hitler adopted the swastika as a German national symbol and as the central element in the party flag of the National Socialist Party, or Nazi Party, which rose to power in Germany the following decade. By 1945, the symbol had become associated with World War II, military brutality, fascism, and genocide—spurred by Nazi Germany’s attempted totalitarian conquest of Europe. The icon was chosen by the party to represent its goal of racial purification in Europe. Hitler and his Nazi Party believed that a line of pure Germanic ancestry originating in the Aryan race—a grouping used to describe Indo-European, Germanic, and Nordic peoples—was superior and that other, less-superior races should be ousted from Europe. Ancient Indian artifacts once owned by Aryan nomads were found to frequently feature the swastika, and the symbol was co-opted from its ambiguous historical context in the region to exert the dominance of so-called Aryan heritage.

Since World War II, the swastika has become stigmatized as a symbol of hatred and racial bias. It is used frequently by white-supremacy groups and modern iterations of the Nazi Party. Along with other symbolism employed by the party, the use of the icon has been outlawed in Germany.

Today we have had the rainbow...a sign from God to remember his promise, but now used to represent evil.