10 Steps to the End of this Age & Ushering in His Kingdom

[farouk]

9 hours ago, NConly said:

1 Cor 15: 51-54

 

"Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

⁵² In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

⁵³ For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

⁵⁴ So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory."

[NConly]

8 minutes ago, farouk said:

"Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

⁵² In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

⁵³ For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

⁵⁴ So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory."

! Cor 15:

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

[farouk]

18 minutes ago, NConly said:

! Cor 15:

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

@NConly I do also love how verses 57 and 58 tie into each other, in chapter 15 of 1 Corinthians:

"But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

⁵⁸ Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord."

[Keras]

2 hours ago, NConly said:

! Cor 15:

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

And when that will happen, is plainly told to us: Revelation 21:1-7  AFTER the Millennium. 

[Desopixi Seilynam]

On 7/24/2024 at 3:21 PM, Keras said:

And when that will happen, is plainly told to us: Revelation 21:1-7  AFTER the Millennium. 

The day that Paul describes in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 is the day that Jesus
comes to take firey vengeance. We know this because Paul says so in second Thessalonians, in 2nd Thessalonians Paul gives us more information on what he was talking about in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 :

"And to you who are troubled, rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed
from the sky with His mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance
on them that know not God and that obey not the good news of
our Lord Jesus Christ.... 

2 Thessalonians 1:7-8  {Revelation 19:17-21}

When He shall come to be glorified in His saints,
and to be admired by all them that believe
in that day {Malachi 4:3 Psalm 58:10}

2 Thessalonians 1:10

Wherefore we also pray for you,
that God would count you worthy of this calling

2 Thessalonians 1:11

Now we beseech you brethren,
by the coming of Christ,
and by our gathering together unto Him (clearly referring to 1 Thess 4:16-17)
That you be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled....
as that the day of Christ is at hand.
Let no one deceive you be any means
For that day shall not come until there be a falling away first,
and that man of sin be revealed

2nd Thessalonians 2:1-3

 

 

We see therefore that Paul ties our gathering unto Him
together with the Lords day of fiery vengeance.

It is on the day that Jesus comes to do vengeance
that we are gathered up into the clouds, in the air with Him.

 

[Keras]

4 hours ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

It is on the day that Jesus comes to do vengeance
that we are gathered up into the clouds, in the air with Him.

This is contrary to commonsense, let alone scripture. 

The terrible Day of the Lord's fiery wrath must be years before His glorious Return. 

There is proper and logical sequence of the end times events. Making a mish-mash out of Prophecy is just confusion and error. 

[WilliamL]

14 minutes ago, Keras said:

This is contrary to commonsense, let alone scripture. 

The terrible Day of the Lord's fiery wrath must be years before His glorious Return. 

There is proper and logical sequence of the end times events. Making a mish-mash out of Prophecy is just confusion and error. 

This is a combination of "I'm right, you're wrong," and a personal insult. Both of which are unprofitable on a forum meant to discuss biblical teachings logically and reasonably.

[Keras]

2 hours ago, WilliamL said:

This is a combination of "I'm right, you're wrong," and a personal insult. Both of which are unprofitable on a forum meant to discuss biblical teachings logically and reasonably.

Sorry if you are upset, but it is the Prophetic Word that is correct. Where people think some Prophesies fit; is often wrong, as they are not stated as to when and it takes careful discernment to place them correctly.

It is evident that there are two separate ‘Days of the Lord’ in which the Lord acts to punish His enemies. The Sixth Seal, the Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath, is the next prophesied event that we can expect, of a worldwide judgement/punishment by fire from the sun, which will clear and cleanse the holy Land. Most clearly described in Isaiah 30:25-30, Isaiah 63:1-6 and Habakkuk 3:12 ‘Furiously You traverse the earth, in anger You trample down the nations.’  But the Lord is not seen: Psalms 11:4-6, Psalms 18:11

Then, much later, at the glorious Return of Jesus, is the Sixth and Seventh Bowl fulfilment, Revelation 16:17-24...the great Day of the Sovereign Lord, when He destroys the armies of the Anti Christ by the Sword of His Word – NOT by fire and chains Satan up.     Revelation 19:19-21,  Zechariah 14:3-5

[Desopixi Seilynam]

On 7/28/2024 at 3:47 PM, Keras said:

This is contrary to commonsense, let alone scripture. 

The terrible Day of the Lord's fiery wrath must be years before His glorious Return. 

There is proper and logical sequence of the end times events. Making a mish-mash out of Prophecy is just confusion and error. 

In 2nd Thessalonians 1:7-10

Paul clearly says "And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from the sky with His mighty angels taking vengeance on them that know not God"

Therefore, clearly, when we rest,
is when the Lord Jesus comes to take vengeance.
 

The Lord shall cause His glorious voice to be heard...
with the flame of a devouring fire
Isaiah 30:30

For the Lord shall utter His voice, before His army
Joel 2:11

The armies in the sky followed Him on white horses...
Revelation 19:14

And the remnant were slain with the sword of Him
that sat upon the horse,
which sword proceeded from His mouth
Revelation 19:21

The terrible day of the Lords wrath is described in those above passages.

Then

1000 years Revelation 20:4-7

Then

The final destruction of everything
Revelation 20:9,  2 Peter 3:8-12

Then

New sky land and water
Revelation 21:1-2, 22:1

 

[Keras]

3 hours ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

 

The terrible day of the Lords wrath is described in those above passages.

But it isn't the glorious Return, because the Lords wrath is over when the Great Trib finishes, Revelation 15:1

All the graphically described prophesies of a forthcoming Dai of disaster simply do not fit at the Return when Jesus will simply destroy the attacking armies at Armageddon, by the Sword of His Word. 

Do you really think the Prophecy of Amos 5:18-20, happens as Jesus Returns?