Physics versus Metaphysics

[RV_Wizard]

On 6/1/2024 at 7:20 PM, The Barbarian said:

Well, let's take a look...

Yes, let's, because all the good works you could perform in a lifetime are like filthy rags to God.  How is man saved?  For this we look at Romans 10:9-13

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.  For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.  For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.  For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.  For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Only the blood of Jesus can atone for the sins of man.  Unless you accept the sacrifice of the only begotten son of God, there is no acceptance into Heaven.

[The Barbarian]

Well, let's take a look...

Jesus, in Matthew 25 says that he will save those who help the unfortunate.   And:

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven.

He isn't lying.   I believe Him.   You should, too.   Your salvation depends on it.

On 6/8/2024 at 6:49 PM, RV_Wizard said:

Yes, let's, because all the good works you could perform in a lifetime are like filthy rags to God. 

Jesus says otherwise.    I think you should take him seriously.    Your salvation depends on it.

 

[RV_Wizard]

On 6/14/2024 at 9:56 PM, The Barbarian said:

Jesus says otherwise.    I think you should take him seriously.  

Like nearly every other thing you say about the Bible, you are distorting the truth.

John 3:3  Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

All your good works might make your torment in Hell a little less, but the ONLY oath to Heaven is through Jesus Christ.

19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

[The Barbarian]

Well, let's take a look...

Jesus, in Matthew 25 says that he will save those who help the unfortunate.   And:

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven.

He isn't lying.   I believe Him.   You should, too.   Your salvation depends on it.

On 6/8/2024 at 6:49 PM, RV_Wizard said:

Yes, let's, because all the good works you could perform in a lifetime are like filthy rags to God. 

Jesus says otherwise.    I think you should take him seriously.    Your salvation depends on it.

2 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

Like nearly every other thing you say about the Bible, you are distorting the truth.

I'm just quoting what Jesus says.   You'll have to take that accusation up with Him.

2 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

All your good works might make your torment in Hell a little less

Jesus says good works are how He will separate the sheep from the goats.   I would believe Him, if I were you.

 

[Scott Free]

On 5/20/2024 at 4:15 PM, RV_Wizard said:

Where is your evidence for a parallel universe, or energy coming from an extraneous source to compensate for the increasing degradation of everything that exists?

Not a parallel universe just an unknown quality. The speed of light could just be the speed limit of electromagnetic waves though an unknown medium. Magnetism can be described but not explained. From where is magnetism propagating?

[RV_Wizard]

8 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

Jesus says good works are how He will separate the sheep from the goats.

Jesus also said, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

If you don't accept Christ as your savior, you are a goat.

[The Barbarian]

Jesus says good works are how He will separate the sheep from the goats.

2 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

Jesus also said, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Yes.   And in Matthew 25, He tells you how that happens.  You should believe Him.   It's not knowing the secret handshake or belonging to the right club.

2 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

If you don't accept Christ as your savior, you are a goat.

If you don't care for the least among us, you will spend eternity with the devil and his angels.   Your choice.

Notice that Jesus says that some of the saved will not understand why they are saved, asking him "when did we care for you?"    A Christian would know this.   

God will save whoever He wills.    Don't presume to speak for Him.

 

[RV_Wizard]

12 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

You should believe Him.

Jesus we believe.  False teachers we do not believe.

[farouk]

On 6/17/2024 at 11:49 PM, Scott Free said:

Not a parallel universe just an unknown quality. The speed of light could just be the speed limit of electromagnetic waves though an unknown medium. Magnetism can be described but not explained. From where is magnetism propagating?

Hi @Scott Free Didn't J J Thomson and J P Thomson - father and son - each receive the Nobel prize for physics for separately giving explanatory adequacy for electrons being particles on the one hand and waves on the other?

[Scott Free]

8 hours ago, farouk said:

Hi @Scott Free Didn't J J Thomson and J P Thomson - father and son - each receive the Nobel prize for physics for separately giving explanatory adequacy for electrons being particles on the one hand and waves on the other?

Yeah, subatomic particles are so weird. The answer to the question "Do they behave like waves or particles?" is … yes. The Word creating order from the deep waters was a more mindboggling process than we first assumed. It always puts me into a state of awe just perceiving what little we know.