Trump Conviction/Baggage - think you know what will actually happen?

[Vine Abider]

37 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

No, and why? All the baggage of Trump was there before the trial and Nikki Haley could not prevail. Now she would just be a symbol that the Trumpers forever will resent and will simply not vote for.

Independents (actual voters) outnumber either party now by 2 to 1. The victory goes not to a party stamp this time,  but to a person that appeals well to the actual voters that are independent of any party controllers.

Speaking for me/myself/I: of Biden, Trump, Kennedy & Haley, I see her with the least baggage and decent credentials (DeSantis after her) . . . 

I'm just thinking there has to be a conversation going in the GOP behind closed doors, that's saying, "My goodness but we're in a monumental pickle here.  Isn't there some way to disqualify this guy (Trump) and get someone else in there who isn't in various troubles up to their eyeballs!?"

[Vine Abider]

Here's a decent article on the whole topic, if anyone's interested: A Felon in the Oval Office Would Test the American System https://www.yahoo.com/news/felon-oval-office-test-american-163142045.html

From there: Revolutionary hero Patrick Henry knew this day would come. He might not have anticipated all the particulars, such as the porn actor in the hotel room and the illicit payoff to keep her quiet. But he feared that eventually a criminal might occupy the presidency and use his powers to thwart anyone who sought to hold him accountable. “Away with your president,” he declared, “we shall have a king.”

[Neighbor]

20 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

Isn't there some way to disqualify this guy (Trump)

Yep. But, there isn't any winning strategy, for the Trump base is just as Trump said. He could shoot someone in broad daylight and they would not convict him and instead would still support him. His appeal is to the naysayer in all of us. At some point even a naysayer has to move forward. He never quite did. He talked it but didn't do it. He never closed the deal, never made friends. He always cut the feet out from under his own team. He blew the deal. And now, well they all  are kinda glad  for his comeuppance.

Trump's campaign funding will dry up the PAC money will go elsewhere as the "rats" flee the sinking ship. The Republican leadership will concede this presidential election altogether as it tries to maintain other offices from each State and rebuild for 2028. It will struggle to maintain viability  in either the   Senate and House of  Representatives.

DeSantis is in a squeeze play. He can only maintain national exposure by challenging one of his own  for the US Senate, or go for House of representatives against one of his own, and winning. The cards are against him. Good man, I like him as my governor, but the timing of elections is not good for him.

[other one]

3 hours ago, Marathoner said:

Falsifying business records --- cooking the books --- is a felony. Too bad so sad. 

Interestingly, this Judge would not let the Trump team put people on the stand who would have proven he did not cook the books and what he did was legal.

[other one]

2 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

Hmm... sounds pretty unlikely.   Can you find a checkable source for that?

I heard several people talking about it, I don't know that he was recorded saying it, but I heard several people who did hear him report it.

[Neighbor]

We can win outright and RFK Jr become president, or it could be that no one reaches 270 electoral college votes. That RFK Jr. will have most of anyone but not 270, and then the bargaining begins.

I am certain that neither a Republican or a Democrat can gain 270 electoral college votes outright. Both of these parties have failed their duty to serve and instead are there to plunder their various individual fifedoms.

Our hope though is certain; if we place it in our Lord Yeshua and do not get too caught up in the "stuff" of this world that is out there to distract, detain, and even destroy us.

Focus on the narrow path! ( and yes please vote RFK Jr.).

[other one]

3 hours ago, Neighbor said:

Hi,

RFK Jr. will win the US presidency come this November. Both Trump and Biden will become irrelevant, except as memories of a bad time in the USA                              

Republicans running  for office while supporting The Donald this fall,  should he make it to the fall election as their Nominee, will lose a substantial number of elections. Democrats will rule the two houses of Congress. Neither  of the duopoly parties will win the presidency. Instead RFK Jr. will become president.

Andnone of it should matter much,  as compared to our keeping our own focus  on Yeshua.

 

If that happens, our Republic will fall.

[Neighbor]

3 minutes ago, other one said:

If that happens, our Republic will fall.

That is what the Trumpers forever try to sell for sure. It is trump or the world fails- don't think so myself! It has survived with even  a zombie president for almost four years. Our survival our country's existence is in the hands of our Lord!!! Not a Trump, not a Biden, not  even a Kennedy.

Of greater importance to each of us is to be looking up, sharing of our hope certain in Jesus and his soon coming for He comes quickly in the night like a thief, or better a groom for his bride.

[The Barbarian]

Hmm... sounds pretty unlikely.   Can you find a checkable source for that?

1 hour ago, other one said:

I heard several people talking about it, I don't know that he was recorded saying it, but I heard several people who did hear him report it.

No one else can show that he said it, either.   But that's how it usually goes with things like that.

 

[Neighbor]

There is nothing much a legal defense team can do when a person is as guilty, and also as unsympathetic a personality, as Donald Trump.

Why the jury did not even concede a single count against him as  a gesture of some mercy. Instead they gave him his full 40 lashes.

Will a judge looking at so many counts of Guilty verdicts be able to not sentence him to jail? He may never serve a day or night of the upcoming sentence against him, but I think it will be real prison time that he is sentenced to serve.

All because he has exhibited no mercy ever for others, he now will receive none. He just loved to shout lock her up lock her up!

A foolish man with a braggart's  tongue is getting his head handed him. He blew the deal. It is on him that he is where he is today. It is on him, but is the result of God's will as God raises up kings/rulers and nations and God brings down kings/rulers and nations.