When was Satan cast out of heaven down to the earth?

[1to3]

40 minutes ago, Stewardofthemystery said:

You seem like a nice guy, and I pray the Lord will open your eyes to the Truth, but you need to get some Oil in your lamp so you can see.

God bless

That oil in the lamps written in the Holy Bible refers to IS the Holy Spirit of God.

If you have accepted Christ Jesus as your personal savior and beleive He is Gods only begotten Son, that shed His holy blood on the cross of calvary to by us back from the strongholds of sinm and have a daily relationship with Him and have set all your sins  st the foot of the cross and  are now covered by the Holy Blood of Christ Jesus, the Holy Spirit of God works in you, convicts you of your sins, helps you to turn from them sins and transforms you step by step into the child of God (new creation) you were always intended to be.

[BlindSeeker]

14 hours ago, Stewardofthemystery said:

It is Jesus Christ (Messiah the Prince) who confirms the NEW COVENANT in His apostles and disciples in the final 7 of that 70 week prophecy.

Amen

From something I've written -

He Shall Confirm the Covenant with Many

Excerpt-

"Then He shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; But in the midst of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. – Daniel 9:27

If this “He” above in Daniel 9:27 is indeed referencing Jesus Christ, then this part of the verse is certainly the most advantageous to understand. Therefore, we will begin this chapter with the following three questions.

First, what “covenant” was the Lord Jesus confirming?

Second, how did He confirm it; by word, deed, or both? 

Third, if this seventieth week, which was designated as being for “confirming the covenant,” was divided by Jesus’ death which caused the previously Mosaic obligation of sacrifices and oblations to cease, then what about the remaining three and a half years. For from His baptism to His death, Jesus’ earthly ministry lasted only three and a half years?

Since there seems to be a strong possibility that Jesus is the “He” referenced in Daniel 9:27, then these are legitimate questions that need to be asked if we are to remain honest and persistent in our search of the Truth. Furthermore, if Jesus is indeed this “He,” and it’s not the antichrist being spoken of here, then we can also rest assured that there will be biblical answers to all these questions. Therefore, I submit the following for your prayerful consideration.

So, let’s start by looking at the first question again, what is the “covenant” that Jesus was confirming?"

Rest here - He Shall Confirm the Covenant with Many

[Stewardofthemystery]

8 minutes ago, 1to3 said:

That oil in the lamps written in the Holy Bible refers to IS the Holy Spirit of God.

If you have accepted Christ Jesus as your personal savior and beleive He is Gods only begotten Son, that shed His holy blood on the cross of calvary to by us back from the strongholds of sinm and have a daily relationship with Him and have set all your sins  st the foot of the cross and  are now covered by the Holy Blood of Christ Jesus, the Holy Spirit of God works in you, convicts you of your sins, helps you to turn from them sins and transforms you step by step into the child of God (new creation) you were always intended to be.

Learn the parable of the 10 virgins. 

[BlindSeeker]

12 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

"Trinity" is also not in the Scriptures;  But as we know we have the Father, Son and Holy Spirit which is a Trinity.  So your belief falls on its face.

Ok - so who are you speaking to?

13 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

The "7 year Tribulation" also does not have to be worded as such:  Dan 9:24 - Seventy Sevens are decreed (490 years); which is divided into 7- Sevens then 62 - Sevens, and lastly a 1 - Seven.  One Seven, not a sum of 7.

(3 1/2 + 3 1/2) is a One Seven, but is not equal to or the same as 3 1/2 + 3 1/2 which the sum total is 7, but not a One Seven.  The brackets provide oneness.

v27 - And he will confirm a covenant with many for One Seven (7 continuous years), and in the middle of the Seven he will cease sacrifices and offerings and set up the A/D. ( the dividing point).

Rev 13:5 - and he will exercise his authority for 42 months. v.10 - If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity he will go, If anyone is to be killed with a sword, with a sword he will be killed.  Some have Tribulation here for the first 42 months.

Yes, if the verses also say what you think they are saying, then you might be correct. However, it is the same with the Mormons, Jehovah Whiteness, and every other cult out there that uses the scriptures from the Bible.

Simple question, yes, or no.

It this what you were taught as a young Christian, being given these verses as the foundation thereof, and what you have always believed?

[BlindSeeker]

8 hours ago, RdJ said:

They do have power if evil people like Hitler give them power‭. His enemies are not yet made to His footstool because He is patient and waits for the harvest.

Hitler had no power whatsoever to give. He was a minion of the adversary, a mere puppet. 

Luke 4:5 - Then the devil, taking Him up on a high mountain, showed Him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.  6 And the devil said to Him, "All this authority I will give You, and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish.

[BlindSeeker]

3 hours ago, Stewardofthemystery said:

So in order to preserve the lie, they reject the Truth.

Such is the power of a theological stronghold in the life of a believer, and the reason for the necessity of "prove all things," which cannot be done unless we keep all our theologies on the altar of God seeking His refinement thereof.

[BlindSeeker]

2 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

The error after error is saying this prophecy is past, nothing further from the truth.

The 70 - Sevens are a prophetic timeline for the salvation of Israel.  Daniel's people (those of the 12 tribes) and Daniel's holy city (Jerusalem) have yet to partake in any of the 6 tasks bestowed on them.  We are just waiting for "On That Day" to come in the future.  One more prophetic week remains.

We are not on the same page.  I see you can still buy and sell, so does that mean you have the MOB? Rev 13:17

This is the onset of the 70th Week, which lead to the A/D at the midpoint of the Week.

The new covenant is in His blood, been going on for 2000 years.  Jesus forecast the Destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD.  Then some time after that is when someone makes a covenant with many.  Has not happened yet.

Only the uninformed would believe as you have stated.  Again the 70 Sevens are but a prophetic timeline for the Salvation of Israel.. "On that Day". Repeated many times in Zech.

In Christ

Montana Marv

Confirming a covenant is different than making a covenant  or peace treaty. In order to confirm anything it has to already been established or promised.

 

 

Edited June 16, 2024 by BlindSeeker
Hate it when a miss a key word....

[BlindSeeker]

2 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

So you don't believe in the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit as a threesome (Trinity). That's a pity.

In Christ

Montana Marv

That's not what he said. He stated a fact about the word.

[BlindSeeker]

1 hour ago, Vine Abider said:

Thanks for your side in all that.  I think I know where you are coming from and you seem to know where I'm coming from . . . we both see through the glass darkly and according to the little we've each been shown.   But isn't it wonderful that this is not our oneness - Hallelujah we are one only in Him alone!  

I appreciate your spirit, reminds me of John Fletcher...

[Stewardofthemystery]

55 minutes ago, BlindSeeker said:

Such is the power of a theological stronghold in the life of a believer, and the reason for the necessity of "prove all things," which cannot be done unless we keep all our theologies on the altar of God seeking His refinement thereof.

That is the problem, it is the knowledge of men and the doctrines of men that “exalteth itself against the knowledge of God”

God made “foolish” the wisdom of this world.