Does God ONLY care about how much money you put in the collection plate?

[Neighbor]

1 hour ago, Michael37 said:

Eftpos

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Perhaps I still don't understand it; my gold dust in a sack isn't good anymore?

[Neighbor]

Another sumple guideline, if one hs need of one is from a church I associated with for a couple decades.

They did have a formal offering at each service. Plus a separate offering at Lord's Supper for the benevolent fund. They were slow to add credit credit card and other methods; but found that individuals wanted those options in order to better be systematic in giving.

From that church today  comes the following information: 

A significant issue of one's personal Christian walk is how the believer practices giving to God through giving to their church monetarily. Below are some principles from the New Testament that LCC believes and teaches that guide our giving:

The purpose of our giving is to satisfy the needs of others so that God will be worshiped and glorified. (2 Corinthians 9:10-14)

We should give voluntarily and systematically. This helps us avoid covetousness and impulsive giving. (1 Corinthians 16:1; 2 Corinthians 9:5)

Our attitude is one of cheerfulness and joy, not under any kind of compulsion by another. (2 Corinthians 9:7)   

We believe in giving sacrificially. (2 Corinthians 8:1-11)

As New Testament believers, we are commanded to give as God has prospered us. Therefore, we believe in "grace giving," which means that we give to honor the Lord-the amount of the gift is a private matter between each individual believer and God. An offering is received at our regularly scheduled Sunday service and online, and a complete financial accounting of our church is available for anyone to examine upon request."

Personally I have never felt pressured to do whatever the Lord has led me to be enabled to do regarding financial and or physical effort in giving to the local church body, or even directly to an individual.

I sure am not going to be thinking I need rail on about what someone else is led to do and give by my choosing to be railing on against churches and their leadership. For at the top of that leadership of the local church bodies is my Lord and savior. Instead I think I'll let him judge as He sees fit. - Yep I am sure of it.

 

 

 

[ExactionForce10]

11 hours ago, ExactionForce10 said:

Yes I did.

The question I asked only requires a one word answer, YES, or NO. Does God, according to the gospels, ONLY care about how much a person puts in the collection plate at church or tithes, whatever you want to call it? 

It's a very straightforward question, does God ONLY care about how much money a person gives to a church when deciding who is blessed or not,  YES OR NO? 

Can any of you answer that straightforward question and honestly answer it yes or no? 

 

Edited June 16, 2024 by ExactionForce10

[Retrobyter]

41 minutes ago, ExactionForce10 said:

The question I asked only requires a one word answer, YES, or NO. Does God, according to the gospels, ONLY care about how much a person puts in the collection plate at church or tithes, whatever you want to call it? 

It's a very straightforward question, does God ONLY care about how much money a person gives to a church when deciding who is blessed or not,  YES OR NO? 

Can any of you answer that straightforward question and honestly answer it yes or no? 

 

The answer is "no." That's not the reason for blessing. 

[Marathoner]

1 hour ago, ExactionForce10 said:

The question I asked only requires a one word answer, YES, or NO. Does God, according to the gospels, ONLY care about how much a person puts in the collection plate at church or tithes, whatever you want to call it? 

It's a very straightforward question, does God ONLY care about how much money a person gives to a church when deciding who is blessed or not,  YES OR NO? 

Can any of you answer that straightforward question and honestly answer it yes or no? 

 

You didn't answer a yes or no question, so don't expect the same in return. ExactionForceFail. 

[RdJ]

Tithing in the O.T. was taxes and not for everyone to take care of the levites and poor. In the Netherlands ages ago almost everyone went to church and the churches used the tithes for the poor. Then the govt took over and the poor, even the homeless get money from the govt and you have to pay 30 percent for that. But the thing is because the govt took over they will give money to someone who smokes pot and refuses to work plus a nice house but a pastor who cares. Pay taxes if you get some money from that church. Even if you have debts from it and a 700 euro income if you're lucky, so we can give the church money to the person who rather lazies around than works.

In Germany they have to pay church taxes. 

Kirchensteuer or German church tax; an additional surcharge of 8% - 9% on top of the income tax and solidarity surcharge due and must be paid if you are a registered believer, i.e. affiliated with a church.

Edited June 16, 2024 by RdJ

[Coruscating]

2 hours ago, ExactionForce10 said:

It's a very straightforward question, does God ONLY care about how much money a person gives to a church when deciding who is blessed or not,  YES OR NO? 

No. God doesn't only care about how much money a person puts in a collection plate, or whatever means a church has to collect funds.

If you had done a poll, you would have 100% of "no" answers.

We know about the poor widow (Mark 12:42-44).

We also know about the guilty crucified man, who recognized Jesus as the innocent Son of God when He was crucified too. Jesus assured Him Heaven, He didn't say: Too bad you don't have the chance to give a couple of cents, maybe your mother will pay the church on your behalf. (Luke 23:42-43)

We also know the woman who used expensive perfume to wash Jesus. We also know what the one who only cared about money said and what answer he got. (John 12:1-7)

In all this we see that what matters is our faith and what we do with it — and sometimes that will involve money, yes. What matters is the trust we put in the knowledge that has been given to us, the attention we pay to what the Holy Spirit puts in our minds and hearts.

Also, we know who are the righteous ones (Matthew 25:31-46). We can see what God cares the most about, when we read those verses.

Edited June 16, 2024 by Coruscating
to reference the verses

[Michael37]

2Pe 3:14-18  Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless;  (15)  and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you,  (16)  as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.  (17)  You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, beware lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the error of the wicked;  (18)  but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory both now and forever. Amen.