Parenthetical Prophecies in Revelation

[BlindSeeker]

15 hours ago, abcdef said:

Is the 4th beast nation of Dan 7, the beast of Rev 13?

no

[BlindSeeker]

18 hours ago, First and the Last said:

Interpreting the timelines and prophecies in the book of Revelation, as well as other prophetic books like Daniel, involves careful consideration of their historical context, present implications, and future fulfillment. The book of Revelation contains various visions and prophecies that unfold sequentially, revealing both overarching themes and specific details. Each prophecy, whether parenthetical like the timelines in Revelation 12 or sequential like the seals and trumpets, contributes to the overall narrative of God's plan for humanity.

I personally view the book of Revelation as a book of "endings," which speaks in the first 10 chapters of "things which must shortly come to pass." I think the significance of this perspective is enhanced with Daniel’s being told that "You must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings."

As for the remaining chapters of Revelation, I view them as being separable into 3 distinct prophetic sections.

The first being Revelation 11 alone, where it begins with John being given a reed to "measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein," yet instructed to leave out "the court which is without the temple... and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months."

Because of this, I personally believe Jerusalem was still intact at the time of this vision, and that John was indeed conveyed via the spirit to measure it. Time likely being around 66 a.d., after one Gessius Florus had seized the sacred temple’s treasury and enraged Jews who in turn determined they finally had enough. This prompted many Jewish fighters to swarm into Jerusalem which managed to slaughter the local Roman garrison, where upon they triumphantly boasted their independence from Rome.

However, about three months later over 30,000 Roman troops returned upon Jerusalem and crushed the rebellion. Being led by Cestius Gallus, they successfully penetrated the city and undermined the outer wall of the temple area. Then oddly, and to the Jews dismay, for no apparent reason the Romans suddenly retreated. The Jewish rebels rejoiced and being embolden promptly gave them chase. It was at this time that under the unction of the Spirit the majority of the Christians fled from Jerusalem to the mountains beyond the Jordan River, heeding Jesus’ prophetic warning. Then, approx. 42 months later Titus returned and layed the final siege on Jerusalem resulting in it and the temple’s annihilation (or end).

BTW, I do know there is a common acceptance that Revelation was written 90-91 to as late as 95 a.d., but personally I don’t accept that. That would have made John a very old man, for once more, remember that the last thing spoken to John in chapter 10 was that he “must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.”

Also, FYI, I simply will submit the following to show the opinion is not necessarily my own or unfounded–

Clarke’s Commentary –

“Epiphanius says, that John was banished to Patmos by Claudius Caesar; this would bring back the date to about A.D. 50. Andreas, (bishop of Caesarea, in Cappadocia, about A.D. 500,) in his comment on this book, chap. vi. 16, says: "John received this Revelation under the reign of Vespasian." This date also might place it before the final overthrow of the Jewish state; though Vespasian reigned to A.D. 79. The inscription to this book, in the Syrian version, first published by De Dieu, in 1627, and, afterwards in the London Polyglot, is the following: "The Revelation which God made to John the evangelist, in the island of Patmos, to which he was banished by Nero Caesar." This places it before the year of our Lord 69, and consequently before the destruction of Jerusalem. Of this opinion are many eminent writers, and among them Hentenius, Harduin, Grotius, Lightfoot, Hammond, Sir Isaac Newton, Bishop Newton, Wetstein, and others.

“If the date could be settled, it would be of the utmost consequence to the right interpretation of the book; but, amidst so many conflicting opinions, this is almost hopeless.”

To me, the significant point of Revelation 11 is that by John being instructed to “measure not the court without the temple… given unto the Gentiles” there is a refocusing upon Israel at the time of the end of the gathering in of the Gentiles via the two witnesses.

Revelation chapter12 to me is basically a synopsis of that mystery which was hid from the foundation of the world, including the battle with powers and principalities contending for the souls of men; to show the faithfulness of God to save “such as would be saved” by means of that salvation that comes only from the “seed of Abraham” via Judah of Israel, whereby all men can thereby be saved.

Revelation chapters 13 to 18, speaking of the final great empire key to the history of Israel being destroyed for her sins, with 19 to the end the marriage of the Lamb with the establishing of the Millennial Throne for the purging of sin from “such as would be saved” and then, off into the mysterious profundities of eternity.

[Michael37]

2 hours ago, BlindSeeker said:

To me, the significant point of Revelation 11 is that by John being instructed to “measure not the court without the temple… given unto the Gentiles” there is a refocusing upon Israel at the time of the end of the gathering in of the Gentiles via the two witnesses.

"for it was given to the nations." Historically.

When did John actually measure the temple of God?

[BlindSeeker]

23 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

"for it was given to the nations." Historically.

When did John actually measure the temple of God?

I'm not sure what your posting "'for it was given to the nations.' Historically," is suppose to insinuate to me, especially being that the outer court was excluded from the angel's instruction to John...

But, I ask you, just what do you think John did with the reed given him? Do you think he refused and disobeyed the angel, or  just took it for a souvenir? or did he use it?

So, not to pull a Bill Clinton, but it all may well depend on what your definition of "actually" is. But I did state that "I personally believe Jerusalem was still intact at the time of this vision, and that John was indeed conveyed via the spirit to measure it. Time likely being around 66 a.d...," probably in much the same fashion as Ezekiel, except not just to observe, but to do- 

Ezek 40:2 -In the visions of God he brought me into the land of Israel, and set me upon a very high mountain, by which was as the frame of a city on the south.  3 And he brought me thither, and, behold, there was a man, whose appearance was like the appearance of brass, with a line of flax in his hand, and a measuring reed; and he stood in the gate.

[Michael37]

19 minutes ago, BlindSeeker said:

I'm not sure what your posting "'for it was given to the nations.' Historically," is suppose to insinuate to me, especially being that the outer court was excluded from the angel's instruction to John...

But, I ask you, just what do you think John did with the reed given him? Do you think he refused and disobeyed the angel, or  just took it for a souvenir? or did he use it?

So, not to pull a Bill Clinton, but it all may well depend on what your definition of "actually" is. But I did state that "I personally believe Jerusalem was still intact at the time of this vision, and that John was indeed conveyed via the spirit to measure it. Time likely being around 66 a.d...," probably in much the same fashion as Ezekiel, except not just to observe, but to do- 

Ezek 40:2 -In the visions of God he brought me into the land of Israel, and set me upon a very high mountain, by which was as the frame of a city on the south.  3 And he brought me thither, and, behold, there was a man, whose appearance was like the appearance of brass, with a line of flax in his hand, and a measuring reed; and he stood in the gate.

Careful with accusations that I insinuated anything. That sort of rhetoric isn't encouraged here.

The angel stated an historically known fact, that the outer court was given to the nations. The earthly temple has always been symbolic of the heavenly one, which ultimately is comprised of the body of Christ. Selected commentaries suggest this parallel is in view with regard to what John is to measure. 

Rev 11:15-19  And the seventh angel sounded. And there were great voices in Heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ. And He will reign forever and ever.  (16)  And the twenty-four elders sitting before God on their thrones, fell on their faces and worshiped God,  (17)  saying, We thank You, O Lord God Almighty, who are, and who was, and who is coming, because You took Your great power and reigned.  (18)  And the nations were full of wrath, and Your wrath came, and the time of the judging of the dead, and to give the reward to Your servants the prophets, and to the saints, and to the ones fearing Your name, to the small and to the great, and to destroy those destroying the earth.  (19)  And the temple of God was opened in Heaven, and there was seen in His temple the ark of His covenant, and there occurred lightnings and voices, and thunders and an earthquake, and a great hail.
 

[abcdef]

On 6/30/2024 at 12:12 AM, Michael37 said:

Hope this helps:

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The parenthetical passages are: The Jewish remnant and the tribulation saints, Revelation 7:1-17.

The time of trouble began when Rome invaded Israel in 63 BC, the time of the 4th beast nation in Dan 7. The 144000 and the MTNMCN are from the first resurrection when Jesus was resurrected, Eph 4:8. They are seen in heaven in the 85-96 AD ish time period by John.

 

On 6/30/2024 at 12:12 AM, Michael37 said:

The angel, the little book, the two witnesses, Revelation 10:1-14. The Lamb, the Remnant, and the everlasting Gospel, Revelation 14:1-13.

 

On 6/30/2024 at 12:12 AM, Michael37 said:

The gathering of the kings at Armageddon, Revelation 16:13-16.

Why only these 3 verses in the passage? Shouldn't Rev 15 & 16 be completely parenthetical?

After all, the narrative changes after Rev 14 and changes to center on the beast nation.

 

On 6/30/2024 at 12:12 AM, Michael37 said:

The four alleluias in heaven, Revelation 19:1-6. These passages do not advance the prophetic narrative. Looking backward and forward they sum up results accomplished, and speak of results yet to come as if they had already come.

If they seem to have already taken place at the time of 85-96 AD, maybe they have already taken place at that time. Each passage should be considered for that possibility. 

 

On 6/30/2024 at 12:12 AM, Michael37 said:

In Revelation 14:1, for example, the Lamb and Remnant are seen prophetically on Mount Sion, though they are not actually there till Revelation 20:4-6. [Chapters Available - Revelation - Scofield's Reference Notes - Bible Commentaries - StudyLight.org]

The 144000, the MTNMCN, and the Lamb are seen in heaven with John in 96  AD ish. Eph 4:8.

Rev 14:1-5, Also shows them there in 96 AD ish.

 

[abcdef]

On 6/30/2024 at 12:08 AM, First and the Last said:

The identification of the fourth beast in Daniel 7, the beast in Revelation 13, and the beast ridden by the unfaithful woman in Revelation 17 as the Roman nation is a common interpretation. This view suggests that these passages symbolize the Roman Empire's pervasive influence and opposition to God's people.

Combining the attributes of these entities into a description of the Roman nation reveals a composite image of a powerful, oppressive force characterized by political, religious, and economic dominance. The fourth beast in Daniel 7 is described as dreadful, terrible, and exceedingly strong, with iron teeth and ten horns, symbolizing the destructive power and far-reaching control of the Roman Empire. Revelation 13's beast also has ten horns and seven heads, with blasphemous names, signifying its blasphemous and persecutory nature against the saints. Revelation 17 adds the imagery of the unfaithful woman, often interpreted as representing a corrupt religious system, riding the beast, indicating a collaboration between political and religious corruption.

When we try to date these attributes in history, the Roman Empire’s timeline fits well with these descriptions, especially during its peak and subsequent periods of influence. The Roman Empire, known for its persecution of Christians and its blend of political and religious power, aligns with the prophetic descriptions in these books. These prophecies as not only historical but also potentially applicable to future events, symbolizing any system or empire that opposes God and His people.

By examining these attributes across history, it reinforces the interpretation that the beast represents a continuum of oppressive powers epitomized by Rome but also applicable to future oppressive regimes. This understanding underscores the vigilance required of believers to recognize and resist any system that embodies these attributes, remaining faithful to God amidst persecution and corruption.

While historical interpretations often identify the beast with the Roman Empire, identifying the beast in contemporary terms can be more complex. The characteristics of the beast—such as political and religious oppression, blasphemy against God, and persecution of the faithful—can manifest in various forms throughout history and into the present.

The Bible provides symbolic and prophetic imagery that believers are encouraged to study and discern. The Church teaches that the ultimate fulfillment of these prophecies may not be fully understood until the end times unfold. Therefore, while certain historical and contemporary powers may exhibit beast-like attributes, a definitive identification of the beast as a specific current entity or nation remains speculative.

Believers are encouraged to stay vigilant, maintain a strong relationship with God, and remain grounded in biblical teachings to navigate the challenges posed by any oppressive systems that arise. The focus is on spiritual readiness and faithfulness to God's word rather than pinpointing a precise current identity for the beast.

So if the 4th beast nation of Dan 7, the beast nation of Rev 13, and the beast nation of Rev 17 are all the nation of Rome,

Then is the beast that comes out of the abyss at the 5th trumpet and kills the 2 witness also Rome? If so, then how is it that the beast nation comes out of the abyss?

Is the beast nation that deceives the kings of the earth the Roman nation? Rev 16:13-16.

 

Edited July 1, 2024 by abcdef

[abcdef]

17 hours ago, BlindSeeker said:

no

If the Dan 7 beast nation is not the beast of Rev 13, then who is the 4th beast of Dan 7, and who is the beast of Rev 13 ?

[First and the Last]

41 minutes ago, abcdef said:

So if the 4th beast nation of Dan 7, the beast nation of Rev 13, and the beast nation of Rev 17 are all the nation of Rome,

Then is the beast that comes out of the abyss at the 5th trumpet and kills the 2 witness also Rome? If so, then how is it that the beast nation comes out of the abyss?

Is the beast nation that deceives the kings of the earth the Roman nation? Rev 16:13-16.

The identification of the fourth beast in Daniel 7, the beast in Revelation 13, and the beast ridden by the unfaithful woman in Revelation 17 as the Roman Empire is a significant interpretation that highlights the pervasive influence and opposition of this historical power against God's people. However, interpreting these prophetic symbols requires a nuanced understanding of biblical prophecy, which often uses symbolic language to convey spiritual truths and future events.

When considering the beast that comes out of the abyss at the fifth trumpet in Revelation 9 and kills the two witnesses in Revelation 11, it is important to recognize that this imagery may extend beyond the historical Roman Empire to represent a broader, more complex spiritual opposition to God's work. The abyss, often associated with the realm of evil and demonic forces, suggests that this beast's power is rooted in a deeper spiritual rebellion against God. Thus, the beast from the abyss could symbolize a resurgence or revival of the same oppressive and antagonistic spirit that characterized the Roman Empire, manifesting in future global opposition to God's people and His purposes.

Regarding Revelation 16:13-16, where the beast, along with the dragon and the false prophet, deceives the kings of the earth, this passage speaks to the end-time coalition of evil forces that will unite against God. While the Roman Empire serves as a historical type or foreshadowing of such opposition, the ultimate fulfillment of these prophecies points to a future global system of deception and rebellion against God, driven by satanic influence.

In summary, while the Roman Empire serves as a significant historical example of opposition to God's kingdom, the prophetic imagery in Revelation expands this concept to include a broader, more encompassing spiritual and global opposition. This interpretation aligns with the emphasis on the spiritual warfare between God's kingdom and the forces of darkness, culminating in the ultimate victory of Christ and the establishment of His eternal reign.

[Revelation Man]

On 6/29/2024 at 8:35 PM, abcdef said:

The timelines of the parenthetical prophecies are related to the overall timelines, but how and where do they fit into history past, present and future?

I would maintain that the separation of individual prophecies within the Revelation must fit into the overall timeline. 

I have done this several times on this site in a long form query, I will attempt to put it forth in a concise form. I have read through the thread, and no part of Revelation happens until the 70th week, which is yet to come, and the 1260 is days not years.

On 6/29/2024 at 8:35 PM, abcdef said:

For example, the Rev 12 timeline of the woman, must match with other timelines as well. It seems to many to be a individual timeline, parenthetical, if it is, how does it fit into the other timelines, such as the seal and trumpets, or the Dan 7 timeline?

Another example would be the Rev 13 timeline. How does it fit into the Rev 12 timeline of the woman? Or the seals/trumpets?

My solution would be to match the timelines with history, the present times, or the future. 

You can not match the "timelines with history" when they are of course future events. But I can show how Rev. 12 & 13 fit into the book of Revelations 7 year timelines, after the Rev. 2 & 3 Church Age period ends.

On 6/29/2024 at 8:35 PM, abcdef said:

How does the Rev 13 timeline match with Dan 7? How does the Rev 14 timeline match with Rev 17?

 

I can show where Dan. 7, 8, 11 and 12 match up with the book of Revelation, but of course they aren't parallel. 

On 6/29/2024 at 8:35 PM, abcdef said:

All must match without contradiction. Dan 2 must match with Dan 7. Dan 7 must match with the Rev 12 woman and Rev 13.

Can we do it?

I done this long ago brother. 

Rev. 1 is Jesus in all his glory as the eternal redeemer.

Rev. 2 and 3 is the Church Age, so only this part of Revelation covers the 2000 year church age.

Now we come to the main course of what the book of Revelation is all about, the future 70th week, where Jesus raptures his church to heaven for a 7 year wedding chambers wait for a Marriage Supper back on earth, art Armageddon. 

Rev. 4 & 5 go hand in hand, both is the saints/church in heaven (24 Elders) praising God & The Slain Lamb in back to back chapters which happens in the first 3.5 years of the 70th week, but it happens in heaven, not on earth, the Revelation 4:4 and Rev. 5:9-10 verses prove this.

Rev. 6 is Jesus in heaven, before God's Wrath falls at the middle of the 70th week, at the 1260 DOTL event, opening the BOUND Scroll that has God's Wrath contained in it. A Wax Signet Seal always bound messages, the number seven (7) signifies Divine Completion, as Jesus breaks every Seal, he FORETELLS what will come when the 7th Seal unleashes the Trumpet Judgments over in Rev. 8, that's why the 7th seal is over in Rev. 8. This of course happens just before the middle of the weeks 1260 DOTL event.

Rev. 7 is not what most people think, so its a little more detailed. It is a CODE for all the Jews who repent, and we know Israel repents JUST BEFORE the Middle of the week 1260 DOTL event, by reading Zech. 13:8-9, we see the 1/3 repent, then in the very next verse we see the Day of the Lord arrives in Zech. 14:1, then in vs. 2 Jerusalem is conquered, and in vs. 3 Jesus returns 1260 days later, because this all starts in the middle of the week, on day 1260. So, these Jews repent JUST BEFORE the DOTL, and we know Elijah is sent back BEFORE the DOTL as Malachi 4:5-6 states, so I have figured out in the last 5 years via an Exegesis on Dan. 11 & 12 that the 1335 Blessing is the Two-witnesses showing up to get Israel to repent, then the 1290 is the False Prophet, a Jewish High Priest, like unto Jason (real name Yeshua) who betrayed his Jewish brothers under Antiochus Epiphanes IV (AE4), so we had both Archetypes (Anti-Christ & False Prophet archetypes) living at the same time. Jason invited AE4 into the temple to sacrifice a pig unto Zeus, defiling the temple, thus Hanukkah is remembered today because the defiled temple had to be cleansed. Jason then mandated that all Jews become Hellenized, leading unto the Maccabean Revolt.  So, in the end times the False Prophet will do likewise, except he will STOP (take away the Sacrifice as Dan. 9:27 says) Jesus worship, and he will then place the IMAGE up in the temple, as Rev. 13 clearly states, the 2nd Beast gets the people to make an IMAGE of the 1st Beast, so all those who think the Anti-Christ is the one who does all this at the 1290, are in error, he only comes on the scene 30 days later at the 1260, when the Rev. 8 Asteroid strikes (Wrath of God). The 1st Beast will be the E.U. President, thus how does he have such an in with this Jewish High Priest/False Prophet? And how can he conquer Israel when they have Nukes? Any thing fit? Of course it does, The Agreement as seen in Dan. 9:27 (Covenant/Agreement) is simply this, the E.U. gets Israel to join the European Union after the Gog & Magog war or just before the Gog war, I think just before because I think this angers God so much they gave His land away that the 70th week anger at Israel kicks in, and the Rapture happens at the exact same time. To wrap this complicated chapter up, the 144,000 are the 1/3, God was never going to give Satan 2000 years to prepare, so He stated 1/3 in Zech. 13:8-9 and 144,000 in the book of Revelation, one was a Ratio, the other a CODE. 12 equals  Fulness 10 equals Completeness, so we get God SHOUTING at us this is ALL Israel who repents, 12 x 12 x 10 x 10 x 10 means just that, just like the 10 Virgin Brides complete Christendom, the 144,000 Male Virgins = All Jews who repents, make and females alike. So, reread Rev. 7 now, they are NEVER called Super Preachers, they are said to need protection from the Four Winds (God's Coming Wrath) so God seals them (gets them sealed via the Holy Spirit like us) and he then protects them from his coming Wrath which hurts and burns the earth via the 1/3 burning Trees, the 1/3 Seas and the 1/3 earth, I see the 1/3 as WHERE this asteroid hits, in the Pacific Ocean (The whole New World is the 1/3). God's Plagues will hit the Old World in a different way, He wants to preserve the Old World because Jesus will be ruling from Jerusalem for 1000 years. Basically, these 144,000 (5 Million Jews who Fled Judea for the Petra/Bosrah area) are protected by God for 1260 days these are THE WOMAN of Rev. 12, these are the ones God says COME OUT OF HER (Babylon/Whole World) in Rev. 18:4. So, these Jews are Sealed by the Holy Spirit then protected. Then we get a flash up, we see the Raptured Church in Rev. 7:9-16 just before the Wrath Falls in Rev. 8.

Now the Wrath begins, this chapter starts the 1260 day Middle of the 70th week Wrath of God. Rev. 8, 9 and 16 covers the Full 1260 days, so I will show those three first, everything else is Parenthetical in nature

Rev. 8 is the 7th Seal being taken off, this starts the Wrath of God, or DOTL, that is why the 7th Seal is over in Rev. 8, and its also why in Rev. 7 God said HOLD UP the Four Winds (Wrath of God) until we get the 144,000 (5 million Jews) sealed and protected. So, the 7th Seal had to be HELD UP, until Rev. 7s mission was completed by the Two-witnesses, this is also why in Rev. 11 John was told to MEASURE the temple, the altar AND those who worship therein, ONLY Jews, were to be preach unto by the Two-witnesses, because this is their mission, just like it was Jesus' only mission, the Rapture has passed, the Angel as seen in Rev. 14:6 takes over the mission of preaching the Gospel unto the masses. In Rev. 8 we see the First Four Trumps are just ONE ASTEROID being spoken about in four different phases. This first phase (Trump #1) is 1/3 of the trees burning like Sodom burned, because of an asteroid breaking apart in our atmosphere, where sulfur balls will fall onto trees/houses and burn 1/3 of the worlds trees, I see that as a DESTINATION, the New World. Then in Trump #2 we get THE IMPACT, which hits in  the Pacific Ocean just off the California/Mexico coastlines, and the Pacific Ocean just so happens to cover 1/3 of the worlds surface, hmm. Then in Trump #3 we get THE FALLOUT or Wormwood that poisons the 1/3 Fresh Waters, New Worlds Rivers. Then finally in Trump #4 we get the Sun & Moon darkening by 1/3, all over the world. because the smoke gets up in the Jet Streams and goes all around the whole world, of course. Then in vs. 13 it clearly states that the Three Trumps yet to come are the Three Woes, and as they are sounded, we get those Three Woes.

Rev. 9 is the First Two Woes. So, the mention of the 2nd Woe and 3rd Woe in Rev. 11 has to be a Parenthetic Citation Chapter. We see in Woe #1 that Apollyon and his hordes are released from the pit, they can not hurt people, but in the 2nd woe those 200 million can kill, I wonder why? ( I'll tell you soon) I think these Demons jobs are to get people to CHOOSE, this day whom side they will stand on, they have no power to kill, but they can hurt and maim, so, if you have not taken the Mark of the Beast yet they come after you, and if you have not chosen God yet they come after you. So, why do they not just kill them? Satan wants NUMBERS in his army, why would he kill possible future Army members? Now, this who chose God he will kill as soon as they do that. These are only those who have not chosen which side they will stand on.

In Woe #2 we see the 200 Million Angels slaying 1/3 of those who have taken the Mark of the Beast. Remember, Satan cab not kill Satan, Jesus said so. People miss this because the see the Angels bound in the Euphrates River, but its not in the River, read carefully, its to a TIME that they are bound unto.........A Day, a Month, a Year and to a TIME !! Not in a River, just to that part of the world, the Euphrates River Basin. We know verses 20-21 says these are Plagues and plagues come from God. 

Rev. 15&16 are really one chapter, we will mostly talk about Rev. 16, but NOTICE, in Rev. 8 the Trumpets are READIED for SOUNDING by the Angels, then SOUNDED by the Angels. In Rev. 15 the Angels are READYING the Vials to be POURED OUT, then in Rev. 16 the actually POUR OUT these Bowls of Wrath which FINISH UP God's Wrath, because ALL WRATH comes from the Seven (7) Trumps, the Last Three are the Three Woes. The 7th Trump thus brings the 3rd Woe (remember Rev. 8:13 says so) and thus they 7 Vials are the 3rd Woe. We get the First 5 Vials, the we get a Vial for the ages, everyone thinks it really means God dries up the Euphrates so "Armies can cross" (I laugh at that tbh) where they can get to Armageddon. But alas, these cowards are too scared to come out of their caves after the First 6 Trumps, the Two Woes which kill 1/3 of those who took the Mark of the Beast and the first 5 Vials which were grievous sores, blisters etc. etc. etc. So, what this really is is that God is using a Metaphor of a great River to show that He will DRY UP, is Wrath (Vials) long enough  to allow Satan the Dragon, the Anti-Christ and the False Prophet to ENTICE these evil men to come unto Armageddon via LIES where God can end it all in one grand spectacle as Jesus shows up at the 7th Vial to wipe them all out by his voices uttering VICTORY. Amen. But the Euphrates is really his Plagues being dried up long enough to give these Three Entities time to lie, IMHO, they simply do this, LOOK, LOOK, the Two-witnesses have died, it was them who prayed down all these Plagues, (and they did do that, but they prayed down the 7th Trump just before they died as Rev. 11 says, they died during the 2nd Woe, just before the 3rd Woe comes via the 7th Trump). They then tell them, if we can only go to Jerusalem and kill off every last Jews this will NEVER EVER HAPPEN AGAIN, Lets Roll. That is when Jesus says "LETS ROLL FOR REAL" Amen. 

The rest of the book of Revelation are Parenthetical Citation Chapters

Rev. 10 is now much easier to understand knowing that all of the Wrath of God comes out of the Seven Trumpet Judgments. The 7 Thunders are the 7 Trumps. That is why when the 7th Thunder sounds "Time [as we now know it] will be NO MORE" in other words Satan will be cast into the pit and Jesus will be ruling. Also, now we know why the little book was sweet in John's mouth but very bitter in his stomach. The Judgments are needed in order for humans in Christ to move on and live forever in the new Heaven & Earth, but John also knew that billion of human being will be both Killed and Judged and this it was a somber, and a very bitter taste unto John. Look back to the 7th Seal, the Heavens were Silent for 30 minutes, IMHO, this shows the same thing, just like it repented God to have to kill all mankind save the 8 in the flood, those in Heaven take no Joy in what these Judgments will bring, this the SILENCE represents their somber feelings, like being at a funeral they don't joy in this, but judgment must come to pass, because God is a Righteous Judge. Amen. So, the 7 Thunders simply speak about 

Rev. 11 starts 75 days before the Middle of the week 1260 DOLT events. Israel has to repent, so the Two-witnesses are sent back 1335 days before the the 2nd coming, ends all these wonders/things as Dan. 12 says. This chapter is only about the 2 witnesses  1260 day ministry on earth, the reason the "DIE before the Beast dies" at the end of the 2nd Woe, whilst he dies at the 7th Vial when Jesus returns is because they show up 1335 days before the 2nd coming while he only becomes the Beast 1260 days before the 2nd coming. It all adds up via the math because its factual. God gave them both 1260 day Ordained by God offices on earth so we could juxtapose their "TIMELINES" against each other. There is nor reason for the Two-witnesses with Glorious bodies to even die except to give us these exact timelines. We can thus know the 7th Trump/3rd Woe/7 Vials last exactly 75 days. Below in chapters 12, 13, 17 and 18 I can show how each parallel exactly with the Rev. 8, 9 and 16s 1260 days of Wrath. 

Rev. 12 as we know is the Woman (Israel) fleeing from Judea unto the Petra/Bozrah area where God protects them from the Dragon and his Anti-Christ Army for 1260 days, so this covers the full Wrath of God period starting in Rev. 8, and continuing through Rev. 9 and Rev. 16. Everything revolves around the Middle of the week 1260 DOTL Wrath of God (Asteroid falls).

Rev. 13 of course as we know can only cover the Beasts 42 month/1260 days in office as "The Beast". So, just like Rev. 12 this chapters covers the exact same timeframe as Rev. 8, 9 and 16 combined. Its quite simple really, at least to me. He will kill and maim for 1260 days, which brings famine, death, wars, etc. etc. 

Rev. 14 like Rev. 19 is a tad different in nature, it covers the full 7 years of the 70th week, because of a certain flashback Rapture. This is designated as the Harvest Chapter by me, so we need all three, and they happen at different times, so we get a flashback. We see the 144,000 (5 million Jews awaiting Jesus on the holy mount, but in reality they are in the Petra/Bozrah area, and we know this because Jesus comes unto them with a blood stained white garment on, signifying he's killed the wicked at Armageddon before going to gather them (The Wheat who grows with the tares until the end) into His Fathers barn. They are shown on the holy mount because Israel will rule with Jesus for 1000 years from Jerusalem, Amen. Then in verses 17-20 we see the Wicked Grapes are judged/killed, these are likened unto the Wicked Tares. Yes, they will be killed, but only judged 1000 years later and THEN BURNED, later on, just like the Wicked Tares are bound to be burned later. So we have two that grew together "until the end" being judged. But in order to get the full perspective on the Harvest Chapter God has to give us the very first "Cinematic Flashback" in history, God then shows us the pre 70th week Rapture of the Church in verse 14, where Jesus himself thrusts in the sickle and harvests the church age believes. That is why I say this Harvest Chapter covers the full 7 years.

Rev. 17 lasts 42 months also, this is God telling us who the Harlot is in big bright lights, she is ALL False Religion of all time, but this story line mainly revolves around the 42 months in which the 10 (E.U.) Kings/Powers (10 = Completion) destroy the Harlot, kill her off, burn her up, but why? Why after eons of the Harlot riding the Beasts back (see vs. 7) do they all of the sudden turn against her? Turn against the Zeus and Jupiter types, and the Islam, Buddhism and Hindu types, there is now no place for them because this one man (like Antiochus) considers himself to be the ONLY GOD !! Antiochus however had Rome to deal with and never got to fulfill his deep dark intentions, he however called himself God, as the name implies. Apollyon is the Scarlet Colored Beast, that's why in Rev. 17 no CROWNS are spoken of, as in Rev. 12 where the CROWNS are on the 7 Heads because the Dragon Satan is over all Kingdoms on earth as we saw in Luke 4. Then in Rev. 13 we see the CROWNS on the 10 horns/kings because the Anti-Christ will be over the E.U. which is a part the 7th Head that the Dragon is also over, along with the A.C. Remember, both Dan. 8 and Rev. 13 says the Dragon/Satan gives him his power !! The MYSTERY is who the Harlot is defined as by Three Descriptors. MYSTERY is a Header then we get the Three Descriptors. 

1.) Babylon the Great (She was world renowned for her FALSE RELIGION )

2.) Mother of Harlots (FALSE RELIGION was of course the original Harlotry)

3.) Abominations of the Earth (God is a jealous God and thus HATES all FALSE RELIGION)

So, the Harlot is identified as ALL False Religion of All Time, thus she has the blood of the [Jewish] Saints AND the blood of the Martyrs of Christ on her hands. She is this on MANY WATERS because False Religion is of course all over the whole world. She is Scarlet and Purple because those two colors were very exclusive, one came from rare bugs, the other came from seeds from a rare bush in Egypt, so, only Royal's and Orders of the Priesthood's could afford to wear them, so the Scarlet and Purple reference is God saying the Harlot (FALSE RELIGION ) rides the backs or is comingled with the [Government] Beasts. Its not the RCC per se. She had bad ways now, but the RCC was God's design to take the Gospel unto the whole world via t Pax Romanus System they set up. They were the Beast who received the Mortal Wound, we the Church gave it unto them, we turned the Beast from a Beast unto a vehicle or conveyor belt that delivered the Gospel unto the whole world. Satan will not over come my Church Jesus said, Amen. 

Rev. 18, Babylon = The Whole World being Judged, not ONE CITY !! This occurs over a 42 month period beginning of course when the Rev. 8 Asteroid makes Impact, as does Rev. 17 begin at that time also. We can see in vs. 2 that Babylon (the world) has become a Habitation of devils, well of course she has, Satan is cast down at the Mid Point (1260 events) and Apollyon and his demon hordes are freed from the pit a smidge later at the 1st Woe. In vs. 4 we see God says "Come out of her my people that yo receive not of her plagues and judgments". As I mentioned in the Rev. 7 portion above, that is God telling the Jews who repented to Flee Judea, where Gd protects them how long? 1260 days !! See how the 1260 is KEY to everything in Revelation? And why it is mentioned in Daniel 12. God in verses 8 and 10 then says Babylon (world) will be judged in ONE DAY and in ONE HOUR, but how can that be? Well, the Day of the Lord = 1260 days and the ONE HOUR = 1260 days. How so? Read Rev. 17:12, the 10 kings rule how long with the Beast? ONE HOUR, and we know the Beast rules 42 months or 1260 days right? See how God always tells us these things if we just listen? The rest of this chapter is mostly just prose, with God foretelling us how the hearts of wicked men who so loved this EVIL WORLD will cry and lament at her demise and burning, they loved this evil world more than they loved God, and thus they are in terrible straights now. The last 2 or 3 verses also tell us during this 70th week time the Bride and Groom will be found nowhere on this earth, our light will have left this earth, because we are in Heaven, having married the Lamb, we will then reside in the Fathers wedding chambers for 7 years. 

Rev. 19, like Rev. 14 covers the full 7 years because in Rev. 4:4 we see the Church already has on White Raiment/Robes and this Rev. 19 has to happen before Rev. 4:4. Then we the Church return with Jesus in our White Robes which is the Righteousness of the Saints. We then are seen at the Marriage Supper on earth (Armageddon) where Jesus destroys the enemies armies by speaking victory like he spoke Creation, Amen. 

Rev. 20, 21 and 22 is the Judgment, Ever after and the New Heaven & New Earth. Amen.