It’s Paul For Me!

[WordSword]

Even though the word “Church,” which is what Christ briefly spoke of (Mat 16:18), is mentioned in the Book of Acts, the Christians did not know that it is the Body of Christ until God used Paul to reveal this to them. Only all who will be reborn are in the Church of God and of Christ. Unbelieving Jews and all within the OT are not part of this Church; which answers to why the OT worshipers were congregations, or general “ecclesia,” instead of the Church. There is no mention of the word “Church” in the OT, and no reveled knowledge of it either. The ”people of God”—Israel, will be ruled by the Lord Jesus on the new earth; and the Christians will rule with Him (Mat 19:28; 2Ti 2:12; Rev 20:6).
NC

 

 

 

It’s Paul For Me!

“Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the Church of God” (1Co 10:32). Here, as in the other Scriptures, the Holy Spirit makes a difference in the three companies. By the term “Jew,” Israel as a nation is meant, and not the individual Jew in this present dispensation. The Gentiles are those of all races and tongues, other than Jews who have not been regenerated by the new birth. The Church is God’s elect company in the present dispensation, and is composed of all who are born again.

Through the twelve sons of Jacob, God called out unto Himself a special nation of twelve tribes, to be His special testimony to the nations of the earth (using the Jews to bring the Gentiles to Himself—NC). Even in the days of Jacob’s grandfather, Abraham, God had this special nation in mind when He said “I will make thee a great nation, and I will bless thee . . . and in thee shall all of the families of the earth be blessed” (Gen 12:2, 3). So Israel was to be God’s earthly testimony, and through them He eventually brought the Messiah and Savior into the world. In due time Christ will return and God will deal with all of the nations (Mat 25:31-46).

In dealing thus with an earthly nation many earthly and physical ordinances and regulations had to be given, especially in the Old Testament. Even the four Gospels are linked with Jewish promises, and are really the grand fulfillment of the OT promises to Israel, and they are valuable to us as divinely inspired pictures of the Person, character and work of our blessed Lord Jesus. Like the OT, they give us blessed acquaintanceship with the Lord Jesus, and also wisdom as to our personal walk as children of God.

The Church is an altogether new thing (separate from Israel—God’s people—NC), which began on the day of Pentecost, and was said to be a mystery, hidden from past generations (Eph 5:32). It is a heavenly company, composed of both Jews and Gentiles (Eph 3:5, 6). In Acts 2:47 He added to is Church those who were saved, and that is still the way He adds them. His Church is destined to leave the world suddenly one of these days. Then God will go back to dealing with His earthly nation, Israel.

John the Baptist came as a minister to Israel (to offer the Lord Jesus first, then the new earth to non-Christian Jews—NC), preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom (Mat 3:2 i.e. the kingdom of heaven coming on the earth is at hand; beginning at the millennia—NC). This kingdom message will be resumed after the rapture of the Church when God returns to dealing with Israel (Mat 24:14). The Gospel for the present dispensation is “the Gospel of the grace of God,” and is referred to as Paul’s Gospel (Acts 20:24; Rom 2:16, 16:25; 2Tim 2:8).

There would be no confusion about the instructions in the NT if we would only ask, “Which company is this particular Scripture written to?” Many, for instance, ask why it is that James 5:14, 15 doesn’t seem to work. A dear one is ill; they call for the elders, who pray over him and anoint him with oil, but nothing happens, even though this Scripture promises that “the Lord shall raise him up.” Their error is that James does not write directly to the Church, and does not claim to. In the beginning of His epistle he says he is writing “to the twelve tribes (Israel, which most are unbelievers—NC) scattered abroad” (Jas 1:1).

For Church doctrine and present-day truth for the believer, we must turn to Paul’s epistles (which are written to believers in Christ—NC). In Ephesians 3:2-10 Paul says this special revelation of the Church was committed to him. In Galatians 2:9, he says that he and Barnabas were sent unto the Gentiles, while Peter, James and John were sent to the Jews.

—Unknown

 

 

 

MJS daily devotional excerpt for July 9

 “Suffering takes us in condition where truth has us in position.” -MJS

“We will never learn any truth in experience excepting in the deepening knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ. It is the lack of this which is the cause of weakness among believers; bare doctrine is not personal fellowship with Him. We have that which is lovely and full of blessing in Him; but if we are to know it as such; to prove its truth, to enjoy it always, it must be in taking these things as connected with Him.” - John Nelson Darby (1900-1882)
http://www.abideabove.com/hungry-heart/
 

[Michael37]

8 hours ago, WordSword said:

Even though the word “Church,” which is what Christ briefly spoke of (Mat 16:18), is mentioned in the Book of Acts, the Christians did not know that it is the Body of Christ until God used Paul to reveal this to them. Only all who will be reborn are in the Church of God and of Christ. Unbelieving Jews and all within the OT are not part of this Church; which answers to why the OT worshipers were congregations, or general “ecclesia,” instead of the Church. There is no mention of the word “Church” in the OT, and no reveled knowledge of it either. The ”people of God”—Israel, will be ruled by the Lord Jesus on the new earth; and the Christians will rule with Him (Mat 19:28; 2Ti 2:12; Rev 20:6).
NC

 

 

 

It’s Paul For Me!

“Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the Church of God” (1Co 10:32). Here, as in the other Scriptures, the Holy Spirit makes a difference in the three companies. By the term “Jew,” Israel as a nation is meant, and not the individual Jew in this present dispensation. The Gentiles are those of all races and tongues, other than Jews who have not been regenerated by the new birth. The Church is God’s elect company in the present dispensation, and is composed of all who are born again.

Through the twelve sons of Jacob, God called out unto Himself a special nation of twelve tribes, to be His special testimony to the nations of the earth (using the Jews to bring the Gentiles to Himself—NC). Even in the days of Jacob’s grandfather, Abraham, God had this special nation in mind when He said “I will make thee a great nation, and I will bless thee . . . and in thee shall all of the families of the earth be blessed” (Gen 12:2, 3). So Israel was to be God’s earthly testimony, and through them He eventually brought the Messiah and Savior into the world. In due time Christ will return and God will deal with all of the nations (Mat 25:31-46).

In dealing thus with an earthly nation many earthly and physical ordinances and regulations had to be given, especially in the Old Testament. Even the four Gospels are linked with Jewish promises, and are really the grand fulfillment of the OT promises to Israel, and they are valuable to us as divinely inspired pictures of the Person, character and work of our blessed Lord Jesus. Like the OT, they give us blessed acquaintanceship with the Lord Jesus, and also wisdom as to our personal walk as children of God.

The Church is an altogether new thing (separate from Israel—God’s people—NC), which began on the day of Pentecost, and was said to be a mystery, hidden from past generations (Eph 5:32). It is a heavenly company, composed of both Jews and Gentiles (Eph 3:5, 6). In Acts 2:47 He added to is Church those who were saved, and that is still the way He adds them. His Church is destined to leave the world suddenly one of these days. Then God will go back to dealing with His earthly nation, Israel.

John the Baptist came as a minister to Israel (to offer the Lord Jesus first, then the new earth to non-Christian Jews—NC), preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom (Mat 3:2 i.e. the kingdom of heaven coming on the earth is at hand; beginning at the millennia—NC). This kingdom message will be resumed after the rapture of the Church when God returns to dealing with Israel (Mat 24:14). The Gospel for the present dispensation is “the Gospel of the grace of God,” and is referred to as Paul’s Gospel (Acts 20:24; Rom 2:16, 16:25; 2Tim 2:8).

There would be no confusion about the instructions in the NT if we would only ask, “Which company is this particular Scripture written to?” Many, for instance, ask why it is that James 5:14, 15 doesn’t seem to work. A dear one is ill; they call for the elders, who pray over him and anoint him with oil, but nothing happens, even though this Scripture promises that “the Lord shall raise him up.” Their error is that James does not write directly to the Church, and does not claim to. In the beginning of His epistle he says he is writing “to the twelve tribes (Israel, which most are unbelievers—NC) scattered abroad” (Jas 1:1).

For Church doctrine and present-day truth for the believer, we must turn to Paul’s epistles (which are written to believers in Christ—NC). In Ephesians 3:2-10 Paul says this special revelation of the Church was committed to him. In Galatians 2:9, he says that he and Barnabas were sent unto the Gentiles, while Peter, James and John were sent to the Jews.

—Unknown

 

 

 

MJS daily devotional excerpt for July 9

 “Suffering takes us in condition where truth has us in position.” -MJS

“We will never learn any truth in experience excepting in the deepening knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ. It is the lack of this which is the cause of weakness among believers; bare doctrine is not personal fellowship with Him. We have that which is lovely and full of blessing in Him; but if we are to know it as such; to prove its truth, to enjoy it always, it must be in taking these things as connected with Him.” - John Nelson Darby (1900-1882)
http://www.abideabove.com/hungry-heart/
 

Many studies to be had on the matters raised by you @WordSword. Here's where I'm led time and again:

Eph 2:11-22  Therefore remember that you, the nations, in time past were in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;  (12)  and that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world.  (13)  But now in Christ Jesus you who were once afar off are made near by the blood of Christ.  (14)  For He is our peace, He making us both one, and He has broken down the middle wall of partition between us,  (15)  having abolished in His flesh the enmity (the Law of commandments contained in ordinances) so that in Himself He might make the two into one new man, making peace between them;  (16)  and so that He might reconcile both to God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity in Himself.  (17)  And He came and preached peace to you who were afar off, and to those who were near.  (18)  For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.  (19)  Now therefore you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints, and of the household of God,  (20)  and are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone,  (21)  in whom every building having been fitly framed together, grows into a holy sanctuary in the Lord;  (22)  in whom you also are built together for a dwelling place of God through the Spirit.
 

[Marilyn C]

9 hours ago, WordSword said:

Even though the word “Church,” which is what Christ briefly spoke of (Mat 16:18), is mentioned in the Book of Acts, the Christians did not know that it is the Body of Christ until God used Paul to reveal this to them. Only all who will be reborn are in the Church of God and of Christ. Unbelieving Jews and all within the OT are not part of this Church; which answers to why the OT worshipers were congregations, or general “ecclesia,” instead of the Church. There is no mention of the word “Church” in the OT, and no reveled knowledge of it either. The ”people of God”—Israel, will be ruled by the Lord Jesus on the new earth; and the Christians will rule with Him (Mat 19:28; 2Ti 2:12; Rev 20:6).
NC

 

 

 

It’s Paul For Me!

“Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the Church of God” (1Co 10:32). Here, as in the other Scriptures, the Holy Spirit makes a difference in the three companies. By the term “Jew,” Israel as a nation is meant, and not the individual Jew in this present dispensation. The Gentiles are those of all races and tongues, other than Jews who have not been regenerated by the new birth. The Church is God’s elect company in the present dispensation, and is composed of all who are born again.

Through the twelve sons of Jacob, God called out unto Himself a special nation of twelve tribes, to be His special testimony to the nations of the earth (using the Jews to bring the Gentiles to Himself—NC). Even in the days of Jacob’s grandfather, Abraham, God had this special nation in mind when He said “I will make thee a great nation, and I will bless thee . . . and in thee shall all of the families of the earth be blessed” (Gen 12:2, 3). So Israel was to be God’s earthly testimony, and through them He eventually brought the Messiah and Savior into the world. In due time Christ will return and God will deal with all of the nations (Mat 25:31-46).

In dealing thus with an earthly nation many earthly and physical ordinances and regulations had to be given, especially in the Old Testament. Even the four Gospels are linked with Jewish promises, and are really the grand fulfillment of the OT promises to Israel, and they are valuable to us as divinely inspired pictures of the Person, character and work of our blessed Lord Jesus. Like the OT, they give us blessed acquaintanceship with the Lord Jesus, and also wisdom as to our personal walk as children of God.

The Church is an altogether new thing (separate from Israel—God’s people—NC), which began on the day of Pentecost, and was said to be a mystery, hidden from past generations (Eph 5:32). It is a heavenly company, composed of both Jews and Gentiles (Eph 3:5, 6). In Acts 2:47 He added to is Church those who were saved, and that is still the way He adds them. His Church is destined to leave the world suddenly one of these days. Then God will go back to dealing with His earthly nation, Israel.

John the Baptist came as a minister to Israel (to offer the Lord Jesus first, then the new earth to non-Christian Jews—NC), preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom (Mat 3:2 i.e. the kingdom of heaven coming on the earth is at hand; beginning at the millennia—NC). This kingdom message will be resumed after the rapture of the Church when God returns to dealing with Israel (Mat 24:14). The Gospel for the present dispensation is “the Gospel of the grace of God,” and is referred to as Paul’s Gospel (Acts 20:24; Rom 2:16, 16:25; 2Tim 2:8).

There would be no confusion about the instructions in the NT if we would only ask, “Which company is this particular Scripture written to?” Many, for instance, ask why it is that James 5:14, 15 doesn’t seem to work. A dear one is ill; they call for the elders, who pray over him and anoint him with oil, but nothing happens, even though this Scripture promises that “the Lord shall raise him up.” Their error is that James does not write directly to the Church, and does not claim to. In the beginning of His epistle he says he is writing “to the twelve tribes (Israel, which most are unbelievers—NC) scattered abroad” (Jas 1:1).

For Church doctrine and present-day truth for the believer, we must turn to Paul’s epistles (which are written to believers in Christ—NC). In Ephesians 3:2-10 Paul says this special revelation of the Church was committed to him. In Galatians 2:9, he says that he and Barnabas were sent unto the Gentiles, while Peter, James and John were sent to the Jews.

—Unknown

 

 

 

MJS daily devotional excerpt for July 9

 “Suffering takes us in condition where truth has us in position.” -MJS

“We will never learn any truth in experience excepting in the deepening knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ. It is the lack of this which is the cause of weakness among believers; bare doctrine is not personal fellowship with Him. We have that which is lovely and full of blessing in Him; but if we are to know it as such; to prove its truth, to enjoy it always, it must be in taking these things as connected with Him.” - John Nelson Darby (1900-1882)
http://www.abideabove.com/hungry-heart/
 

Good, except we, the Body of Christ will rule from the Lord`s own throne in the highest. (Rev. 3: 21)

[WordSword]

13 hours ago, Michael37 said:

Many studies to be had on the matters raised by you @WordSword. Here's where I'm led time and again:

Eph 2:11-22  Therefore remember that you, the nations, in time past were in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;  (12)  and that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world.  (13)  But now in Christ Jesus you who were once afar off are made near by the blood of Christ.  (14)  For He is our peace, He making us both one, and He has broken down the middle wall of partition between us,  (15)  having abolished in His flesh the enmity (the Law of commandments contained in ordinances) so that in Himself He might make the two into one new man, making peace between them;  (16)  and so that He might reconcile both to God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity in Himself.  (17)  And He came and preached peace to you who were afar off, and to those who were near.  (18)  For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.  (19)  Now therefore you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints, and of the household of God,  (20)  and are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone,  (21)  in whom every building having been fitly framed together, grows into a holy sanctuary in the Lord;  (22)  in whom you also are built together for a dwelling place of God through the Spirit.
 

Hi, and thanks for the reply and like! God bless!!

[WordSword]

12 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Good, except we, the Body of Christ will rule from the Lord`s own throne in the highest. (Rev. 3: 21)

Good applicable passage, and appreciate your reply! God bless!!

[Desopixi Seilynam]

On 7/9/2024 at 10:14 AM, WordSword said:

For Church doctrine and present-day truth for the believer, we must turn to Paul’s epistles (which are written to believers in Christ—NC). In Ephesians 3:2-10 Paul says this special revelation of the Church was committed to him

Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?
1 Corinthians 1:13

If anyone does not love the Lord Jesus Christ, let that person be Anathema! Oh Lord Come!
1 Corinthians 16:22

He that does not love me, does not keep my teachings.
John 14:24

The teachings Jesus gave are the foundational message, Jesus taught the renewing of your mind.

If you look on a woman to lust after her, you have committed adultery with her already in your heart.
Matthew 5:28

For from the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemy.
These are the things which defile a man

Matthew 15:19-20

Paul expounded on the teachings of Jesus, often times referring directly to sentiments given by Jesus.

[WordSword]

On 7/13/2024 at 8:20 AM, Desopixi Seilynam said:

Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?
1 Corinthians 1:13

If anyone does not love the Lord Jesus Christ, let that person be Anathema! Oh Lord Come!
1 Corinthians 16:22

Not sure what you mean by above Scriptures. It looks like Paul and Jesus were pitched against each other. I think there is just a misunderstanding here.

[Desopixi Seilynam]

On 7/14/2024 at 1:38 PM, WordSword said:

Not sure what you mean by above Scriptures. It looks like Paul and Jesus were pitched against each other. I think there is just a misunderstanding here.

We are not to take Paul above Jesus. Paul is not our primary teacher, Jesus is.

Love for Jesus is shown by obedience to Jesus, Paul pronounced a curse on those who do not love Jesus.

We therefore must follow Jesus first and foremost, that means heeding the actual teachings of Jesus.

[WordSword]

4 hours ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

We are not to take Paul above Jesus. Paul is not our primary teacher, Jesus is.

Love for Jesus is shown by obedience to Jesus, Paul pronounced a curse on those who do not love Jesus.

We therefore must follow Jesus first and foremost, that means heeding the actual teachings of Jesus.

I agree, but Paul's writings were from Christ (Act 9:6), which just expounded more of what God wants us to know, e.g. we could not know who the Body of Christ (and all his epistles about spiritual growth) is without God giving it to Paul to reveal it. The Lord Jesus did not want the believers to know about the Body of Christ until He used Paul to manifest it.

[farouk]

15 minutes ago, WordSword said:

I agree, but Paul's writings were from Christ (Act 9:6), which just expounded more of what God wants us to know, e.g. we could not know who the Body of Christ (and all his epistles about spiritual growth) is without God giving it to Paul to reveal it. The Lord Jesus did not want the believers to know about the Body of Christ until He used Paul to manifest it.

It relates indeed to what an Apostle is; some of the Epistles explain it, as does the Acts of the Apostles.