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I am amazed by those who call themselves Christian’s who are offended in these words, to put your “trust in the Lord, not in men” especially when it comes to health care.  
We as Believers in the words of God should trust in the Lord in ALL things pertaining to this life, including our spiritual AND physical health.

In every aspect of our lives, be it understanding the words of God, be it protection from evil, be it our jobs, be it our spiritual health, or our physical health we should put our TRUST IN THE LORD!

Those who put their trust in Man are cursed according to the words of God.

Thus saith the Lord; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the Lord.
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If money can buy you the best doctors and meds, then WHY are the rich folks not out living the poor by hundreds of years?  Let them be your judge.


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Put your Trust in the Lord!

Psalm 18

King James Version

18 I will love thee, O Lord, my strength.

2 The Lord is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower.

3 I will call upon the Lord, who is worthy to be praised: so shall I be saved from mine enemies”

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1 hour ago, Stewardofthemystery said:

If money can buy you the best doctors and meds, then WHY are the rich folks not out living the poor by hundreds of years?  Let them be your judge.

i DO NOT KNOW ABOUT WHO IS LIVING LONGER WITH OR WITHOUT .

But for me I agree with what you said. Trust God before trusting man.

Go to God first ask Him what He has in store for your life, where you should go, what you should do and rely more on Gods Word as your final decision maker

 

Avoid as much you can from becoming a slave to any drugs or medical establishment pushing drugs, the cutting of of limbs, bones as alternative remedies to more natural and lasting healing and cures.

I personally look to natural ways and or prophylactic ways to heal and be in good God given health before going the medical Pharmakia way.

Do your due diligence by looking to eat healthy, keep your weight down, work with your hands and feet to keep your body and joints well oiled by their own natural synovial fluid. Walking is a great way to exercise your body. And IF you can't walk so much because of injury, than there are chair exercises that can be done to keep your joints healthy. A recumbent stationary bike is another option to help to keep your body , muscles, joints , circulatory system oxygenated  and in good health

Remember medicine today is a business, that works hand in hand with the pharmaceutical companies.

Doctors will push drugs on you to take before ever suggesting a natural approach. Why? because they are not allowed to speak such truth even if they themselves know it, and if they do, they can risk loosing their livelihood for  telling the truth. Doctors will suggest to get your bones, joints replaced before suggesting other non invasive treatments. Why? because there is more money for the medical industry to make going that route

Just look at the doctors and nurses that spoke up during Covid  and even what happened to the inventor of the PCR test, who spoke up to denounce the lies...

Doctors will suggest to you to cut of a limb or bone, before suggesting a more natural approach, a less permanent alternative that can bring real healing instead of becoming a mere  slave to their replacement treatments that are not a cure  and that in any given time -some longer , some less, have an expiry date that will require the patient to again and again, to seek more and more treatment and more drugs from that kind of medical care system.  And then their is the recalling of vaccines,  drugs, or a medical replacement products that are now in your body and perhaps creating more havoc and needing medical intervention to remove said products,implant, if these have not already prematurely, shorted or ended your life anyway.

FIRST THINGS FIRST

Seek God first, He is healer, Look to

God first always  in ALL you do, and He will make your path strait.

God can do what man can't, Praise God!

God can restore! Praise God!

God can heal ! Praise God!

God is a MIRACLE HEALER! Praise God!

 

What is the devil?

he is the father of lies

he is  a counterfeit of everything good that God has made.

he wants to make you believe he is just as good if not even better than God.

his goal is to ultimately destroy Gods creation and replace is with a counterfeit of deceit and lies

 and he deceives many by telling you ,you are just as good as God and can do better than God or by listening first to God and obeying him.

what he did in the garden of Eden by enticing eve through her own pride, he does yo us in this fallen day and age.

 

 

Even people on christian boards, just beware, all here are fallen humans  in different degrees of recovery and we ARE NOT GOD. The Holy Spirit of God can however speak through His Words and through someone truly following God through His only begotten Son Christ Jesus.

But always test the spirits to see if they align truly with Gods Word.

Get to know the bible yourself, read it through the guidance of the Holy Spirit of God and He will reveal to you His Truth.

If you want to walk with God go to the source=His WORD and pray to God that He personally reveal to you what road to take.

Gods Word says sorcery Pharmakia is EVIL and in end times ALL nations will be deceived by it.

 

Revelation ch18

 

 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.

And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,

10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

1And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:

12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,

13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.

14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.

1The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,

16 And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!

17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,

18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!

19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.

20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.

21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;

23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries+ PHARMAKIA were all nations deceived.

24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

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21 minutes ago, 1to3 said:

Just look at the doctors and nurses that spoke up during Covid  and even what happened to the inventor of the PCR test, who spoke up to denounce the lies...

Doctors will suggest to you to cut of a limb or bone, before suggesting a more natural approach, a less permanent alternative that can bring real healing instead of becoming a mere  slave to their replacement treatments that are not a cure  and that in any given time -some longer , some less, have an expiry date that will require the patient to again and again, to seek more and more treatment and more drugs from that kind of medical care system.

 

Seek God first, He is healer, Look to

God first always  in ALL you do, and He will make your path strait.

 

 

Even people on christian boards, just beware, all here are fallen humans  in different degrees of recovery and we ARE NOT GOD. The Holy Spirit of God can however speak through His Words and through someone truly following God through His only begotten Son Christ Jesus.

But always test the spirits to see if they align truly with Gods Word.

Get to know the bible yourself, read it through the guidance of the Holy Spirit of God and He will reveal to you His Truth.

If you want to walk with God go to the source=His WORD and pray to God that He personally reveal to you what road to take.

God Word says sorcery Pharmakia is EVIL and in end times ALL nations will be deceived by it.

 

Revelation ch18

 

 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.

And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,

10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

1And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:

12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,

13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.

14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.

1The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,

16 And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!

17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,

18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!

19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.

20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.

21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;

23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries+ PHARMAKIA were all nations deceived.

24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

 

 

How many times during Covid did you hear them say “trust in the science”and not “trust in God”?  Science is the knowledge of men, it is NOT the knowledge of God.

I worked at a grocery store during Covid, and was surrounded by people who had Covid, but I never got it, even unto this day.

I did not take the vax, I trusted in the Lord and I remained healthy.  Praise be to the Lord!

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I think we all can get off sided on the narrow path of His Word... God clearly has created and this creation has been cursed because of our individual sinning... but to dismiss the fact that God has freedom to do with His creation as He so deems to do remains His in all times and epochs... The increase in knowledge has certainly been a marker by God to identify where we are in this time and epoch of God
Daniel 12:4 (KJV)

[4] But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

This increase of knowledge belongs to whom? That is a real point of discernment isn't it... especially as our relationship is about knowledge of here and now
Isaiah 1:18 (KJV)

[18] Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

As God here indicates to us -using what we know (through His completed communication with us 'His Word') we are to reason back with God ... 

If we deny this increase in knowledge and use not it's benefits we could be rejecting God's help in whatever the matter... 

 

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29 minutes ago, Stewardofthemystery said:

How many times during Covid did you hear them say “trust in the science”and not “trust in God”?  Science is the knowledge of men, it is NOT the knowledge of God.

I worked at a grocery store during Covid, and was surrounded by people who had Covid, but I never got it, even unto this day.

I did not take the vax, I trusted in the Lord and I remained healthy.  Praise be to the Lord!

Yes Amen! me too, but we are now the shunned... by the standards of this world and  made more evident by our testimony.

 

What does a drug pusher do?

They try and get you to try their drugs, if it has not killed you, they try to get you to take it again, and again and again until you develop a dependency, a slavery to it;

Any addiction is a falling away from Gods good intentions for life and life abundant in and through Him alone.

Christ Jesus calls His children to be shinning lights

Matthew 5:14-16

“You are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden. Nor do they light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on a lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.


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23 minutes ago, 1to3 said:
 

What does a drug pusher do?

They try and get you to try their drugs, if it has not killed you, they try to get you to take it again, and again and again until you develop a dependency, a slavery to it;

Any addiction is a falling away from Gods good intentions for life and life abundant in and through Him alone.

Christ Jesus calls His children to be shinning lights

Matthew 5:14-16

“You are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden. Nor do they light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on a lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.

That is a good point.  Take the opioid crisis, where anywhere from 70,000 to 100,000 were killed every year by mainly prescription meds.

To put that into perspective, During the whole Vietnam war about 50,000 US service men were killed in about a 10 year period.  In the same amount of time opioids would have killed almost 10 times that amount.


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Humankind has dominion over the entire earth. If in that process man learns how to use plants and the art of chemistry to further the ability of producing medicines so be it. These are blessings from our Eternal God.


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Here is a verse that might make you question what you have been told by science and medicine.

There is “no man that hath power over the spirit to retain the spirit; neither hath he power in the day of death:” and there is no discharge in that war; neither shall wickedness deliver those that are given to it.”
 
Peope need to think hard on this verse, and ask yourself “what is it that animates this body of flesh and bone?”  If you said the spirit of God, you would be correct.
 
Jesus said the flesh profits nothing, it is the Spirit that makes ALIVE!
 
Now, if man’s science and medicine had “the power to retain the spirit” then they could also keep you from dying.  AND IF the they had power over the spirit of God, then they would also be able to create life AND even raise the dead back to life, just like God.
 
Then they (in their own minds) would be just like God.
 
But I know better.😊
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