Put your trust in the Lord, not in men

[Jayne]

1 minute ago, Stewardofthemystery said:

I did NOT tell anyone that they cannot take medicine.  That is a LIE!

My advice was to “Trust in the Lord, not in men”

Clearly this message offends.

Perhaps you can explain what "Trust in the Lord and not in men" means to the very ill young woman who was debating taking medicine.  You said it.

And what does THIS mean?  You said it:  "I don’t see in scripture where God tells us to seek a chemist or man’s medicine for our healing.  What did Jesus ask before He healed someone?"

Yes, your "message"  is very, very dangerous and offensive.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

5 minutes ago, Jayne said:

Yes, your "message"  is very, very dangerous and offensive.

 

I see telling people to put their trust in the Lord as a Life saving message, not a dangerous message.

But I DO understand why some will be offended in this message.

Edited July 12, 2024 by Stewardofthemystery

[Jayne]

10 minutes ago, Stewardofthemystery said:

It is written … “for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.”

It is NOT a lack of faith to take medications, see a doctor, go to the hospital, or have a medical prodecure.

I TRUST God to  provide in whatever manner he so chooses!  That's faith!

And I see you are not going to answer my questions about what you mean.

Edited July 12, 2024 by Jayne

[D. Adrien]

16 minutes ago, Stewardofthemystery said:

It is written … “for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.”

Exactly. We all do things not based on faith. Lacking faith in healing does not mean lacking faith. A strong faith takes time to develop. A person who is a recent convert will not have the same level of faith as someone who has walked with God for decades. All those Heb. 11 characters mentioned did not have a strong abiding faith instantaneously upon believing! 

Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. 

As I mentioned, everyone will have an opportunity to test their faith in the application that they feel everyone else should have. Wait for it, God's timing is perfect.

Edited July 12, 2024 by D. Adrien
Inserted: God's timing is perfect.

[Marathoner]

To put it bluntly, many of us have been sent to medical providers by the Lord. I certainly have been. What?

He created the doctor. He created me. It is not my place to judge the Lord but rather, it is His place to judge us all. The idolatrous tendencies of some, revealed to the light of day by their dictating what the Lord will or will not do, is grievous particularly when that idolater props themselves up as an authority or teacher. They are wolves who target the vulnerable and struggling. 

Yes, it is indeed idolatry when a man emphatically declares what the Lord will and will not do. The Lord speaks for Himself, and He has sent many to doctors to receive medical care. That's His will and purpose, not man's. 

[Marathoner]

8 minutes ago, Jayne said:

It is NOT a lack of faith to take medications, see a doctor, go to the hospital, or have a medical prodecure.

I TRUST God to  provide in whatever manner he so chooses!  That's faith!

And I see you are not going to answer my questions about what you mean.

The last thing I wanted to do was go to the VA hospital for anything. They never gave me the time of day until the Lord directed me to go there and receive a VA primary care doctor. I did what He said, and everything happened in the manner He said it would. 

That's faith. We listen to His voice, and we walk in the manner He directs us to walk. Simple. 

[Stewardofthemystery]

11 minutes ago, Jayne said:

It is NOT a lack of faith to take medications, see a doctor, go to the hospital, or have a medical prodecure.

Faith in men is not faith in God, they are not the same faith.

 

[Stewardofthemystery]

6 minutes ago, Marathoner said:

The Lord speaks for Himself, and He has sent many to doctors to receive medical care. That's His will and purpose, not man's. 

Where is it written that the Lords will is that He sends many of his saints to unbelieving doctors for medical care?

 

[Marathoner]

2 minutes ago, Stewardofthemystery said:

Where is it written that the Lords will is that He sends many of his saints to unbelieving doctors for medical care?

 

It's not written that He never does. Who are you to judge God? 

[Jayne]

12 minutes ago, Stewardofthemystery said:

Faith in men is not faith in God, they are not the same faith.

 

So if you had a child and he was in a car wreck and broke his back, you would just go home and have "faith" that God would fix it?

I have faith in God to send me to the right doctor and get the right meds AND for God to take care of it miraculously.

Please, explain what you mean.