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Don't you notice how people who have tattoos of Jesus or of Christian imagery and those who wear necklaces of the cross/crucifix are usually the most lukewarm Christians that exist. I know a man who has Jesus' image tattooed on his arm but he has engaged in fornication and has an illegitimate child with my cousin and sees nothing sinful about his life style. And I know even more people who wear cross/crucifix necklaces but have called me a crazy nutjob religious freak/zealot simply because I take my faith seriously. It's not that their committing heresy or heterodoxy(Though I believe personally that tattoos are sinful, but I'm not here to discuss that), it's that they legitimately don't care. There are exceptions, with Christians who may have a christian tattoo or wear a cross necklace who actually give a darn about the faith(Like Matt Walsh - though he has said he wouldn't have gotten tattoos looking back), but these are a minority, the vast majority of people who write Jesus on their skin and wear him around their necks are lukewarm - and the bible certainly has something to say about these people:

2 Corinthians 11:13-15

"For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds. "

Matthew 7:21-23

"“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’"

Titus 1:16

"They profess to know God, but they deny him by their works. They are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good work. "

2 Timothy 3:5

"Having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. "

James 1:26

"If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless. "

Matthew 15:7-9

"You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, when he said: “‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’” "

Matthew: 6:2-4:

"“So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."

 

For this reason you will never find any kind of tattoo - even one of Jesus - on my skin(Though I also believe tattoos are ugly and sinful - but I I didn't post this to discuss the sinfulness of tattoos - and quite frankly I don't wish to discuss it right now). And for this reason I don't wear necklaces - even those of the cross(though also because I find necklaces uncomfortable)


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Do not write Jesus on your skin unless you really mean it and truly love Jesus with all your heart, soul, strength, mind, and body.

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Thanks this does fall under "For the Lord sees not as man sees; for man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart." You did just that. 

Now 2nd Cor starts off with "for such" meaning something came before it. When Jesus walked this earth many would come up to Him all the time saying "lord lord" "Rabbi Rabbi" "master master" so we understand Matt 7 a bit more. Anyway none of these verses you posted deal with the topic you started.

You don't like tattoos and cross necklaces then don't ware them.  You know maybe 40+ years ago the lord told many about how some will look and dress and many times it was in great detail about what we would see. Yet said they are of me. I know one .. the way he dresses looks yet has lead more people to Christ then I ever will. The love he has for Christ.. just shines and I don't care for him yet he is of God. I watched a Christian man yelling at people going into some movie and I asked the lord right there "is he of you?" The lord said "if he is not against me he is for me"

Not going to get in to what God told Israel not to do thousands of years ago. It is not what people do today. Kind a funny well this to some is wrong yet so many other things we do with this flesh is ok haha. Thanks I disagree and not here to debate. 

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13 hours ago, RealReligionofPeace said:

but I I didn't post this to discuss the sinfulness of tattoos - and quite frankly I don't wish to discuss it right now)

Me neither.


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16 hours ago, RealReligionofPeace said:

Don't you notice how people who have tattoos of Jesus or of Christian imagery and those who wear necklaces of the cross/crucifix are usually the most lukewarm Christians that exist. I know a man who has Jesus' image tattooed on his arm but he has engaged in fornication and has an illegitimate child with my cousin and sees nothing sinful about his life style. And I know even more people who wear cross/crucifix necklaces but have called me a crazy nutjob religious freak/zealot simply because I take my faith seriously. It's not that their committing heresy or heterodoxy(Though I believe personally that tattoos are sinful, but I'm not here to discuss that), it's that they legitimately don't care. There are exceptions, with Christians who may have a christian tattoo or wear a cross necklace who actually give a darn about the faith(Like Matt Walsh - though he has said he wouldn't have gotten tattoos looking back), but these are a minority, the vast majority of people who write Jesus on their skin and wear him around their necks are lukewarm - and the bible certainly has something to say about these people:

2 Corinthians 11:13-15

"For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds. "

Matthew 7:21-23

"“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’"

Titus 1:16

"They profess to know God, but they deny him by their works. They are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good work. "

2 Timothy 3:5

"Having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. "

James 1:26

"If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless. "

Matthew 15:7-9

"You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, when he said: “‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’” "

Matthew: 6:2-4:

"“So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."

 

For this reason you will never find any kind of tattoo - even one of Jesus - on my skin(Though I also believe tattoos are ugly and sinful - but I I didn't post this to discuss the sinfulness of tattoos - and quite frankly I don't wish to discuss it right now). And for this reason I don't wear necklaces - even those of the cross(though also because I find necklaces uncomfortable)

What is your opinion of clerical collars as a fashion accessory?

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whether one chooses to wear a cross necklace or not is neither here nor there.  It is a condition of the heart.  Only God can see that.  But the fruit that the person bears does give some clues as to whether they are living for Christ or not.  I wear my old service ring on a necklace.  Not as thin as I used to be.


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18 hours ago, RealReligionofPeace said:

Don't you notice how people who have tattoos of Jesus or of Christian imagery and those who wear necklaces of the cross/crucifix are usually the most lukewarm Christians that exist.

No, I have never noticed that.  Lukewarmness is a matter of the heart, not the skin.  I could give testimony of Christians with no tattoos who are pitiful.

Methinks you are a bit biased as you opposed tattoos.  That's your right to believe that.  But you have carried it too far.

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20 hours ago, RealReligionofPeace said:

Don't you notice how people who have tattoos of Jesus or of Christian imagery and those who wear necklaces of the cross/crucifix are usually the most lukewarm Christians that exist. I know a man who has Jesus' image tattooed on his arm but he has engaged in fornication and has an illegitimate child with my cousin and sees nothing sinful about his life style. And I know even more people who wear cross/crucifix necklaces but have called me a crazy nutjob religious freak/zealot simply because I take my faith seriously. It's not that their committing heresy or heterodoxy(Though I believe personally that tattoos are sinful, but I'm not here to discuss that), it's that they legitimately don't care. There are exceptions, with Christians who may have a christian tattoo or wear a cross necklace who actually give a darn about the faith(Like Matt Walsh - though he has said he wouldn't have gotten tattoos looking back), but these are a minority, the vast majority of people who write Jesus on their skin and wear him around their necks are lukewarm - and the bible certainly has something to say about these people:

2 Corinthians 11:13-15

"For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds. "

Matthew 7:21-23

"“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’"

Titus 1:16

"They profess to know God, but they deny him by their works. They are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good work. "

2 Timothy 3:5

"Having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. "

James 1:26

"If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless. "

Matthew 15:7-9

"You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, when he said: “‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’” "

Matthew: 6:2-4:

"“So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."

 

For this reason you will never find any kind of tattoo - even one of Jesus - on my skin(Though I also believe tattoos are ugly and sinful - but I I didn't post this to discuss the sinfulness of tattoos - and quite frankly I don't wish to discuss it right now). And for this reason I don't wear necklaces - even those of the cross(though also because I find necklaces uncomfortable)

I do not understand your post. Are you preaching to your self? 

Because what you are doing it is not a service to the Gospel. 

The Gospel includes not to be ashamed to declare my name and confess my name to others.  

And this is what these people do. They tell others about Jesus Christ who accepts the faith of every one and without any prejudice. 

This is the truth Gospel. 

Believe in Jesus Christ as you are. And this is what they declare that they believe in Jesus Christ as they are and they do not want anyone else only Jesus Christ.  

If you declare my name or confess my name before people on earth then I will declare your name in Heaven.

They declare to the Antichrist that they have the mark of Christ and they want no other. 

 

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21 hours ago, RealReligionofPeace said:

Don't you notice how people who have tattoos of Jesus or of Christian imagery and those who wear necklaces of the cross/crucifix are usually the most lukewarm Christians that exist. I know a man who has Jesus' image tattooed on his arm but he has engaged in fornication and has an illegitimate child with my cousin and sees nothing sinful about his life style. And I know even more people who wear cross/crucifix necklaces but have called me a crazy nutjob religious freak/zealot simply because I take my faith seriously. It's not that their committing heresy or heterodoxy(Though I believe personally that tattoos are sinful, but I'm not here to discuss that), it's that they legitimately don't care. There are exceptions, with Christians who may have a christian tattoo or wear a cross necklace who actually give a darn about the faith(Like Matt Walsh - though he has said he wouldn't have gotten tattoos looking back), but these are a minority, the vast majority of people who write Jesus on their skin and wear him around their necks are lukewarm - and the bible certainly has something to say about these people:

2 Corinthians 11:13-15

"For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds. "

Matthew 7:21-23

"“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’"

Titus 1:16

"They profess to know God, but they deny him by their works. They are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good work. "

2 Timothy 3:5

"Having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. "

James 1:26

"If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless. "

Matthew 15:7-9

"You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, when he said: “‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’” "

Matthew: 6:2-4:

"“So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."

 

For this reason you will never find any kind of tattoo - even one of Jesus - on my skin(Though I also believe tattoos are ugly and sinful - but I I didn't post this to discuss the sinfulness of tattoos - and quite frankly I don't wish to discuss it right now). And for this reason I don't wear necklaces - even those of the cross(though also because I find necklaces uncomfortable)

Who knows someday you may be walking around with a book in your hand that it has the mark of the Cross on it. And then people will say that he must be a good Christian but they do not know how he thinks about other believers in Jesus Christ. About some of the children of the Heavenly Father. 

No one can know about his righteous indignation towards other believers of Jesus Christ and how he has  justified it. And have posted so many scriptures irrelevant to the issue at hand and he does not want to acknowledge that or be willing to disclose them. 

And Jesus Christ said to love  one another as I have love you.

 

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2 hours ago, Mama Etna said:

whether one chooses to wear a cross necklace or not is neither here nor there.  It is a condition of the heart.  Only God can see that.  But the fruit that the person bears does give some clues as to whether they are living for Christ or not.  I wear my old service ring on a necklace.  Not as thin as I used to be.

Hi @Mama Etna I guess indeed you would say that you are pleased to identify with your past service through your service ring. Some ppl are pleased to identify with Christianity through something they wear. In the end it doesn't somehow "prove" that they are better ppl than others but conceivably conversations arise with ppl from time to time as a result.

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