One last thing about Trump [not negative or bashing]. I hope you feel led to pray.

[Jayne]

Donald Trump is on my prayer list.  He has been for a while.  So is Biden and Harris.  Also for a while.  I include their families when I pray.  Now Vance and his family are written down on my prayer list.  

[Oh, and I have people HERE on my list]

Mostly I pray that they will gain, through God, "eyes to see, ears to hear, and hearts/minds to understand the gospel truth".

I cannot judge whether someone is saved or not.  All I can do is to say I do or I do not see evidence of it.

Here is something that former President Trump said this week about heaven.  I saw it myself.  He was being interviewed with Laura Ingrahm on Fox News.

He was saying how important religion is.

She said, "Do you believe in heaven?"  He said, "I do!  And if I am good, I will go to heaven and if I am bad, I will go to the other place."  Those were his exact words a few days ago.

I don't bash him for that.  He truly doesn't have an understanding.  

In 2016, and I only tell you this so that you will pray for the man who is more than likely going to be president again, in 2016, he was asked if he prayed for forgiveness.  He said, "No, I don't.  I try to make up for my wrong things by doing good things.  And I drink my little juice and eat my little cracker and that's sort of like asking for forgiveness".   I've seen the video.  Granted, that was 8 years ago and people can change, but with this week's statement about how you get to heaven, I am still burdened about this.

Will you please pray for Donald Trump to have "eyes to see, ears to hear, and a heart/mind to understand the truth of the gospel"?

What would happen for our country and world if that man actually understood and responded to the gospel?  Again, I cannot judge his salvation or lack thereof.  

 

[Inquiring Mind]

51 minutes ago, Jayne said:

Donald Trump is on my prayer list.  He has been for a while.  So is Biden and Harris.  Also for a while.  I include their families when I pray.  Now Vance and his family are written down on my prayer list.  

[Oh, and I have people HERE on my list]

Mostly I pray that they will gain, through God, "eyes to see, ears to hear, and hearts/minds to understand the gospel truth".

I cannot judge whether someone is saved or not.  All I can do is to say I do or I do not see evidence of it.

Here is something that former President Trump said this week about heaven.  I saw it myself.  He was being interviewed with Laura Ingrahm on Fox News.

He was saying how important religion is.

She said, "Do you believe in heaven?"  He said, "I do!  And if I am good, I will go to heaven and if I am bad, I will go to the other place."  Those were his exact words a few days ago.

I don't bash him for that.  He truly doesn't have an understanding.  

In 2016, and I only tell you this so that you will pray for the man who is more than likely going to be president again, in 2016, he was asked if he prayed for forgiveness.  He said, "No, I don't.  I try to make up for my wrong things by doing good things.  And I drink my little juice and eat my little cracker and that's sort of like asking for forgiveness".   I've seen the video.  Granted, that was 8 years ago and people can change, but with this week's statement about how you get to heaven, I am still burdened about this.

Will you please pray for Donald Trump to have "eyes to see, ears to hear, and a heart/mind to understand the truth of the gospel"?

What would happen for our country and world if that man actually understood and responded to the gospel?  Again, I cannot judge his salvation or lack thereof.  

 

And, it's not for us to do so.  Throughout the Bible, God used many people of varying levels of faith for His purposes.  But, yes, we should pray for him and our country.  I don't think we'll last much longer the way things are going now, whether our demise comes from internally or externally.  We need a strong hand leading us.

[Vine Abider]

"This is what the Lord says to you: ‘Do not fear or be dismayed because of this great multitude, for the battle is not yours but God’s.'"   2 Chron 20:15

[Dennis1209]

20 hours ago, Jayne said:

Donald Trump is on my prayer list.  He has been for a while.  So is Biden and Harris.  Also for a while.  I include their families when I pray.  Now Vance and his family are written down on my prayer list.  

[Oh, and I have people HERE on my list]

Mostly I pray that they will gain, through God, "eyes to see, ears to hear, and hearts/minds to understand the gospel truth".

I cannot judge whether someone is saved or not.  All I can do is to say I do or I do not see evidence of it.

Here is something that former President Trump said this week about heaven.  I saw it myself.  He was being interviewed with Laura Ingrahm on Fox News.

He was saying how important religion is.

She said, "Do you believe in heaven?"  He said, "I do!  And if I am good, I will go to heaven and if I am bad, I will go to the other place."  Those were his exact words a few days ago.

I don't bash him for that.  He truly doesn't have an understanding.  

In 2016, and I only tell you this so that you will pray for the man who is more than likely going to be president again, in 2016, he was asked if he prayed for forgiveness.  He said, "No, I don't.  I try to make up for my wrong things by doing good things.  And I drink my little juice and eat my little cracker and that's sort of like asking for forgiveness".   I've seen the video.  Granted, that was 8 years ago and people can change, but with this week's statement about how you get to heaven, I am still burdened about this.

Will you please pray for Donald Trump to have "eyes to see, ears to hear, and a heart/mind to understand the truth of the gospel"?

What would happen for our country and world if that man actually understood and responded to the gospel?  Again, I cannot judge his salvation or lack thereof.  

 

Yes, most certainly, we are to pray for our nation and leaders so we can lead peaceful lives.

1 Timothy 2:2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.

As far as one voting their conscience and morals in elections, pay particular attention:

Romans 13:1-7 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. ² Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. ³ For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: ⁴ For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. ⁵ Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. ⁶ For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. ⁷ Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

I have no doubt Trump is an American patriot who wants what is best for America and its people. As I have constantly harped on, we are not electing clergy but a strong leader who has at least some scruples by the process of a Constitutional Republic and the candidates placed before us. We vote for less evil, the candidate that BEST represents our Christian morals and values. 

The Democratic party has no scruples: Motivation deriving logically from ethical or moral principles that govern a person's thoughts and actions.

Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

In context, the above references false prophets in sheep's clothing to disguise the fact that they are ravaging wolves masquerading as true disciples. Not secular kings, leaders, or presidents.

As we all know, only God and Trump know if he has saving faith in Jesus Christ. I think Trump has heard the Gospel message during his life and from some of those he surrounds himself with, and most likely Franklin Graham.

By his words and actions, at the very least, it appears he is not an enemy of the Cross.

Romans 10:9-11 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. ¹⁰ For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. ¹¹ For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

[Vine Abider]

3 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

As I have constantly harped on, we are not electing clergy but a strong leader who has at least some scruples by the process of a Constitutional Republic and the candidates placed before us. We vote for less evil, the candidate that BEST represents our Christian morals and values. 

The Democratic party has no scruples: Motivation deriving logically from ethical or moral principles that govern a person's thoughts and actions.

This is a very common argument these days, and I've come to the place that I see it more clearly.  Neither candidate has the character and depth I'd like to see,  but the choice is between a hard turn to the left and a turn to the right (sorry @Neighbor, but that's really the bonefide choices).

It's unfortunate that in the aftermath of the election (and I hope it is quite decisive this time with no room for "They stole the election!"), half the country will be pretty daggone disappointed and upset.  And I hope it doesn't all go "south" in a violent way . . .

But regardless of the outcome, right or left, there will still be more opportunities to testify of Christ!

[Neighbor]

1 minute ago, Vine Abider said:

(sorry @Neighbor, but that's really the bonefide choices).

Hi,  The Bonafided choice. Love it, reminds me of the lines from "Oh Brother Where Art You."  

https://www.youtube dot com/watch?v=OouuZzqaQbU Change the dot to a . in order to view "He's bonafided"

Seems to me Mordecai refused to choose (from) that which was then what was bonafided.  I will too today. For what do I have to do with that which is of and put forth from belial?

 

[Inquiring Mind]

17 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

refused to choose (from) that which was then what was bonafided

Reminds me of Kamali’s go-to phrase, ‘What could be, unburdened by what has been’ or something like that.

[TheBlade]

On 8/3/2024 at 10:02 AM, Jayne said:

Donald Trump is on my prayer list.  He has been for a while.  So is Biden and Harris.  Also for a while.  I include their families when I pray.  Now Vance and his family are written down on my prayer list.  

[Oh, and I have people HERE on my list]

Mostly I pray that they will gain, through God, "eyes to see, ears to hear, and hearts/minds to understand the gospel truth".

I cannot judge whether someone is saved or not.  All I can do is to say I do or I do not see evidence of it.

Here is something that former President Trump said this week about heaven.  I saw it myself.  He was being interviewed with Laura Ingrahm on Fox News.

He was saying how important religion is.

She said, "Do you believe in heaven?"  He said, "I do!  And if I am good, I will go to heaven and if I am bad, I will go to the other place."  Those were his exact words a few days ago.

I don't bash him for that.  He truly doesn't have an understanding.  

In 2016, and I only tell you this so that you will pray for the man who is more than likely going to be president again, in 2016, he was asked if he prayed for forgiveness.  He said, "No, I don't.  I try to make up for my wrong things by doing good things.  And I drink my little juice and eat my little cracker and that's sort of like asking for forgiveness".   I've seen the video.  Granted, that was 8 years ago and people can change, but with this week's statement about how you get to heaven, I am still burdened about this.

Will you please pray for Donald Trump to have "eyes to see, ears to hear, and a heart/mind to understand the truth of the gospel"?

What would happen for our country and world if that man actually understood and responded to the gospel?  Again, I cannot judge his salvation or lack thereof.  

 

Hi and thank you for this and amen praying for them and on and on everyone else. We do tend to judge others when it comes to knowing Christ based on something said or done. In this case its wise not to. He knows Jesus Christ as lord. Each one of us are trying to do the best we can and there is always someone out there  (not you :) ) telling us its not good enough like "if you really believed in Jesus you would not talk like that or do this"  blah blah blah. To run for president, to be president.. the demonic forces all around that.. we never face this in our daily lives. Look what has been happening to him going back to just 2015. He would not still be standing if it were not for Christ and he knows this. 

Now if we truly know something about President Trump we would know when it comes to personal things? Yeah he never just talks and talks about it. Anyway....

[Neighbor]

4 hours ago, Inquiring Mind said:

Reminds me of Kamali’s go-to phrase, ‘What could be, unburdened by what has been’ or something like that.

"What at this point difference does it make?" My all time favorite from H. Rodham-Clinton.

Actually it is John MacArthur that taught me the wisdom he applied of not mixing into debate with those that invite one to debate that which is all of Belial. He concluded with "For what do I have to do with Belial?"

Trump is of Belial. Harris is of Belial. What they each state is of Belial. I have no need, nor desire, to engage in assessing Satan's minions over whom between them is best of the worst of mankind.

It is indeed like the old Pysch 101 question, an example of futility and false choices; If you had to kill one or the other of your parents which one would you choose to kill? To even make a potential choice provides a reveal of the insanity of the proposition.  

Trump or Harris?  Stop the Insanity!  Do not play the duopoly's  game.

[Neighbor]

..."Hey, what's that sound?
Everybody look what's going down

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life, it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid"...

I fear not to vote my informed conscience over what the duopoly spins are my only choices.