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37 minutes ago, other one said:

You are free to believe that, but I do not.

That's okay. Many Christians believe in a pretrib rapture, and the Bible does not explicitly mention anything like it. 


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4 minutes ago, BornAgain490 said:

That's okay. Many Christians believe in a pretrib rapture, and the Bible does not explicitly mention anything like it. 

There are several verses confirming the pretrib rapture.


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4 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

There are several verses confirming the pretrib rapture.


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Just now, BornAgain490 said:
5 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

There are several verses confirming the pretrib rapture.

I used to believe that, too, because that was what I was taught.  But reading and studying scripture showed me that the dispensationalism has to be imposed on scripture.  A plain reading of scripture does does not show what pretrib dispensationalism teaches. 


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9 minutes ago, BornAgain490 said:

I used to believe that, too, because that was what I was taught.  But reading and studying scripture showed me that the dispensationalism has to be imposed on scripture.  A plain reading of scripture does does not show what pretrib dispensationalism teaches. 

That is only your perspective and your choice. Life is full of choices.


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34 minutes ago, BornAgain490 said:

That's okay. Many Christians believe in a pretrib rapture, and the Bible does not explicitly mention anything like it. 

Has nothing to do with this subject.


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4 hours ago, other one said:

Has nothing to do with this subject.

It has to do with the subject of what the Bible says. 


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4 hours ago, BornAgain490 said:

It has to do with the subject of what the Bible says. 

So does Jesus loves me, but it doesn't pertain to Genesis Chapter six.   I've been here for over 20 years and this subject comes up at least once a year and can last for a couple of hundred posts where people days does too and one says does not, and it goes on and on.

I've been personally involved with them in this physical world (30 years ago) and there is no way you can convince me that the sons of God in the Old Testament are not angels and demons are the disembodied spirits of their dead offspring.  In a deep study of the occult, they will open themselves up to you, and you don't have to guess about it any longer.

I can recommend a couple of Michael Hiser videos if you are up to spending some time with it.   The first ones are a six-hour seminar on the subject of the unseen realm.  Michael has a doctorate degree in Hebrew and several others concerning the Bible and language comparison.

We can't post URL videos longer than 20 minutes, or I would already have them here


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1 hour ago, other one said:

So does Jesus loves me, but it doesn't pertain to Genesis Chapter six.   I've been here for over 20 years and this subject comes up at least once a year and can last for a couple of hundred posts where people days does too and one says does not, and it goes on and on.

I've been personally involved with them in this physical world (30 years ago) and there is no way you can convince me that the sons of God in the Old Testament are not angels and demons are the disembodied spirits of their dead offspring.  In a deep study of the occult, they will open themselves up to you, and you don't have to guess about it any longer.

I can recommend a couple of Michael Hiser videos if you are up to spending some time with it.   The first ones are a six-hour seminar on the subject of the unseen realm.  Michael has a doctorate degree in Hebrew and several others concerning the Bible and language comparison.

We can't post URL videos longer than 20 minutes, or I would already have them here

Yes, I've listened to many of Micheal Heiser talks and enjoyed them all. I've one of his on the "sons of God" issue.  


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5 minutes ago, BornAgain490 said:

Yes, I've listened to many of Micheal Heiser talks and enjoyed them all. I've one of his on the "sons of God" issue.  

He explains it better than I could here, and I don't have the time or inclination to type that much.   So I guess we have little to discuss and will hopefully just agree to disagree.

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