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40 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

And yet the Bible, any English version, will not have reference to a "Trinity" will it?- trinity being much like "rapture"; a conclusionary word an extra-biblical word, one used to describe a conclusion reached by  reading, studying, praying, and yes even questioning the Bible, Berean style.

I do think the use of "true" in front of Christian or in front of faith is a redundancy. Some are babes  fo rsure others are real scholars, and the rest well " we " have but opinions. Often strongly held, but opinions none the less.

Praise God, His mercy from everlasting to everlasting.

Just because the word "Holy Trinity" is not in the Bible doesn't mean it is not true or that it is not based on the teachings of the Bible.

Three references to the Holy Trinity in the Bible are:

Matthew 3:16-17

When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and [a]He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him. 17 And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”

Matthew 28:19

 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

2 Corinthians 13:14

 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the [a]communion of the Holy Spirit be with you all. Amen.

 

 

 

 


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1 hour ago, missmuffet said:

Just because the word "Holy Trinity" is not in the Bible doesn't mean it is not true or that it is not based on the teachings of the Bible.

You are right, and I never said it was not  a correct conclusion. What I am saying is one need not have any real knowledge in order to be turned about by the Holy Spirit and "saved". In fact I suggest  it is true that without first being saved the Bible is read without an understanding of it being possible.

"The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned."

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3 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

You are right, and I never said it was not  a correct conclusion. What I am saying is one need not have any real knowledge in order to be turned about by the Holy Spirit and "saved". In fact I suggest  it is true that without first being saved the Bible is read without an understanding of it being possible.

"The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned."

Does God allow those who are not true Christians to understand the Holy Trinity? I don't think so.


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On 10/1/2024 at 7:28 PM, missmuffet said:

What is faith in God?

I believe that Faith In God is trusting Him ALWAYS, even when  we are at the end of our rope.


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On 10/2/2024 at 5:46 AM, enoob57 said:

Actually, it is our beginning of which God does not have... yet what gave us being is of Him (Spirit) that has no beginning... When Adam became a soul by God's infusion of breath we became that which never has became in a created nursery of coddling by God of sorts. God says no one can see His Face and live and since God is Spirit there exist no form but the infinite process of being without end and coming into that reality would not be survivable to us in our beginning nursery of begin...

Adam in his opening consciousness would have nothing but question in absolute everything in his sensual learning grid of began. The communicated answers would only come from one source 'God's Word' and whether God gave form to that Word or not would not have been necessarily necessary due to the fact everything was new and to be learned (he would not know difference of voice without form or voice with form). In this innocence of begin God's Word was the only answer to the questions that would be forthcoming in Adams growth of understanding from absolute begin... This is the bridge of faith and it connects that which 'IS' Spiritual to that which began and was the means by which God fed both material exist and spiritual exist within the being of Adam. If you could remove all lie and have only truth you would have pure faith generated by God's Word in the beginning with Adam... God simply says it like this:

John 1:1 (KJV)

[Jn 1:1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Romans 10:17 (KJV)

[17] So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

the key is to return to this reality s/Spiritually but without body or world unredeemed by God... thus

Hebrews 11:3 (KJV)

[3] Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

and the only way we can have this realty as in the beginning without doubt is to come to Jesus for Spiritual regeneration wherein lies the capacity to once again exist also in s/Spirit... The necessity is simple said like this

Hebrews 11:6 (KJV)

[6] But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

As all of the entirety of this creation will be removed even the memory of... for what is the value of lie really? Satan became nothing when he emptied himself of God and filled that void with lie... this is why the natural man has no hope of God for he holds no capacity to make God's Word more substantial than this life of begin and the lies that fill it...

 

Many of the things in this post are not supported by scripture. 

But still many people believe them. A lot of essegesis. 

When the Heavenly host looked at Jesus sitting on the God's right on God's Throne together with the Heavenly Father. They looked at both the Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ and they bow down to both of them. 

Every knee shall bow down before him and confess that Jesus Christ is Lord of Lords. 

Higher above everyone.

And they said the Creator took the form of the man he created that day in the  Garden and was born in Bethlehem and has returned in Heaven as the Christ of God. And the Heavenly Father gave him everything He had, all of his powers.

 

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24 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Many of the things in this post are not supported by scripture. 

List specifics and I'll show you where they are...

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59 minutes ago, Annisissy said:

I believe that Faith In God is trusting Him ALWAYS, even when  we are at the end of our rope.

Good answer and sometimes that is hard. The harder things get the more we need to stay close to God. He is with us all the time. He has it. That is where true faith and trust comes in.

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Hebrews 11.6: "But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him."


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12 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

Good answer and sometimes that is hard. The harder things get the more we need to stay close to God. He is with us all the time. He has it. That is where true faith and trust comes in.

Even though my faith is NOWHERE near what it should be,  it seems like the more I trust God in the TOUGH situations,  the stronger my faith becomes 😊

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5 minutes ago, Annisissy said:

Even though my faith is NOWHERE near what it should be,  it seems like the more I trust God in the TOUGH situations,  the stronger my faith becomes 😊

I don't know if you are a newer Christian. When I first asked Jesus Christ into my life I had a very long road ahead to become the believer God wanted me to be. It doesn't happen over night but you will notice a change in your life.

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