Should Christians Practice Kashering?

[BornAgain490]

9 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

Thread is not about circumcision, which would require debt to the whole law.

I can wash my hands, or avoid pork and not be a debtor to the Law. It is called

understanding and abiding in the common sense application of God's Word.

Perhaps in preparation of food that includes Jewish guests.

We are advised to take steps to avoid offense to others.

Yes, of course: 1 Corinthians 10:32. Accordingly, when we dine with Gentiles who practice no koshering, we don't insist they practice koshering. 

[Mr. M]

17 minutes ago, BornAgain490 said:

Yes, of course: 1 Corinthians 10:32. Accordingly, when we dine with Gentiles who practice no koshering, we don't insist they practice koshering. 

1 Corinthians 10:

31 Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do,

do all to the glory of God. 

32 Give no offense, either to the Jews or to the Greeks or to the church of God, 

33 just as I also please all men in all things, not seeking my own profit,

but the profit of many, that they may be saved.

An answer to the question, "how is God glorified in us?"

By simply abstaining from something for the benefit of another,

and ahead of our own concerns.

[BornAgain490]

42 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

1 Corinthians 10:

31 Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do,

do all to the glory of God. 

32 Give no offense, either to the Jews or to the Greeks or to the church of God, 

33 just as I also please all men in all things, not seeking my own profit,

but the profit of many, that they may be saved.

An answer to the question, "how is God glorified in us?"

By simply abstaining from something for the benefit of another,

and ahead of our own concerns.

Abstaining from what, though? Paul is telling us to abstain from offenses, whether the offense would be toward a lost Jew, a lost Gentile, or a fellow saint.  

So, we give glory to God when, e.g., we eat what our host (lost Jew or lost Gentile) prepares for us, and we give glory to God when we don't eat so as offend a weaker brother in Christ. 

[Mr. M]

23 minutes ago, BornAgain490 said:

Abstaining from what, though?

The topic is blood. Another topic would be "food offered to an idol".

Would you serve wine with dinner if your guest was in alcoholism recovery?

The abstaining is defined by the need of others.

[BornAgain490]

6 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

The topic is blood.

Leviticus does not specifically instruct on the method for koshering meat. Is koshering meat (as it occurs today) a tradition of man?  Can koshering remove all traces of blood? 

24 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

The abstaining is defined by the need of others.

True.  

16 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

Would you serve wine with dinner if your guest was in alcoholism recovery?

It must be determined of the one in recovery.  Alcoholism recovery is a life-long process. Some in recovery are stronger than others.  I would not serve wine if it would be a stumbling block to the one in recovery. 

[TheBlade]

What stands out to me and something I know my Father does not hold me to "Jewish dietary law". It is amazing what GOD the great I am can do when you simply pray over your food. 

Thanks MR M though I agree yet many have made a great argument if you will as to why you should

[Mr. M]

56 minutes ago, BornAgain490 said:

Leviticus does not specifically instruct on the method for koshering meat. Is koshering meat (as it occurs today) a tradition of man?  Can koshering remove all traces of blood? 

Leviticus 7:31 And Moses said to Aaron and his sons, “Boil the flesh at the door of the tabernacle of meeting, and eat it there with the bread that is in the basket of consecration offerings, as I commanded, saying, ‘Aaron and his sons shall eat it.

The custom of the priests was to take their legitimate portion of the sacrifice after boiling (sodden flesh) for fairness for the citizen who was obtaining meat that was properly prepared. The boiling is Levitical procedure, necessitating the "pots and kettles" and other utensils the Levites maintained.

2 Samuel 2:12-17 Now the sons of Eli were corrupt; they did not know the Lord. And the priests’ custom with the people was that when any man offered a sacrifice, the priest’s servant would come with a three-pronged flesh hook in his hand while the meat was boiling. Then he would thrust it into the pan, or kettle, or cauldron, or pot; and the priest would take for himself all that the fleshook brought up. So they did in Shiloh to all the Israelites who came there. Also, before they burned the fat, the priest’s servant would come and say to the man who sacrificed, “Give meat for roasting to the priest, for he will not take boiled meat from you, but raw.”And if the man said to him, “They should really burn the fat first; then you may take as much as your heart desires,” he would then answer him, “No, but you must give it now; and if not, I will take it by force." Therefore the sin of the young men was very great before the Lord, for men abhorred the offering of the Lord.

[BornAgain490]

4 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

Leviticus 7:31 And Moses said to Aaron and his sons, “Boil the flesh at the door of the tabernacle of meeting, and eat it there with the bread that is in the basket of consecration offerings, as I commanded, saying, ‘Aaron and his sons shall eat it.

The custom of the priests was to take their legitimate portion of the sacrifice after boiling (sodden flesh) for fairness for the citizen who was obtaining meat that was properly prepared. The boiling is Levitical procedure, necessitating the "pots and kettles" and other utensils the Levites maintained.

2 Samuel 2:12-17 Now the sons of Eli were corrupt; they did not know the Lord. And the priests’ custom with the people was that when any man offered a sacrifice, the priest’s servant would come with a three-pronged flesh hook in his hand while the meat was boiling. Then he would thrust it into the pan, or kettle, or cauldron, or pot; and the priest would take for himself all that the fleshook brought up. So they did in Shiloh to all the Israelites who came there. Also, before they burned the fat, the priest’s servant would come and say to the man who sacrificed, “Give meat for roasting to the priest, for he will not take boiled meat from you, but raw.”And if the man said to him, “They should really burn the fat first; then you may take as much as your heart desires,” he would then answer him, “No, but you must give it now; and if not, I will take it by force." Therefore the sin of the young men was very great before the Lord, for men abhorred the offering of the Lord.

The blood was let out before cooking.  When it cooked (boiled), it cooked in the blood that remained in the flesh.  Today's koshering involves rinsing and salting repeatedly, but even then there remains some blood.  So, to what extent did God prohibit eating of blood if there is still traces of blood remaining after bloodletting and koshering?

[Mr. M]

2 minutes ago, BornAgain490 said:

The blood was let out before cooking.  When it cooked (boiled), it cooked in the blood that remained in the flesh.  Today's koshering involves rinsing and salting repeatedly, but even then there remains some blood.  So, to what extent did God prohibit eating of blood if there is still traces of blood remaining after bloodletting and koshering?

It is not about traces of blood. It is about the life in the blood.

Nothing living should remain after boiling. As to modern procedures,

why should I be concerned? The purpose of receiving the Logos of God

is to understand His intent. We should make every effort to show our

understanding and commitment to what God values.

The point is not in "rinsing and salting repeatedly". It is obedience.

 

[Mr. M]

On 10/23/2024 at 6:59 AM, Knotical said:

Here are a couple verses to consider in this discussion:

"And He was saying, 'That which proceeds out of the man, that is what defiles the man.'" Mark 7:20

"It is not what enters into the mouth that defiles the man, but what proceeds out of the mouth, this defiles the man." Matthew 15:11 

The topic here was hand washing, not avoiding blood consumption.

Particularly, hand washing has nothing to do with righteousness.

Avoiding the blood in our diet is a command from Noah's covenant.