Gospel Of John; "The Ark Of The Testimony"

[Mr. M]

The unique point of view that is fully examined in the Apostle John's

work is that of a witness providing testimony.

This involves his use of the words martyreo [G3140] v.=testify, bear witness, bear record,

and martyria [G3141] n. (the)witness, (the) testimony. 

A thorough examination of this study through John's word is a necessary

preparation for all who will be called as witnesses.

John 3:11 Most assuredly, I say to you, We speak what We know and testify what We have seen,

and you do not receive Our witness. 

According to Christ, a faithful and true witness only speaks of what is known by experience,

and what has been seen of God's own right arm, and in pureness of heart.

This excludes all opinions and speculations as heresay hearsay.

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[PATrobas]

1John 5:9  If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.:10  He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.:11  And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.:12  He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

[Mr. M]

3 hours ago, Mr. M said:

John 3:11 Most assuredly, I say to you, We speak what We know and testify what We have seen,

and you do not receive Our witness. 

Testimony of the serpent.

John 3:

14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness,

even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 

15 that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.

Testimony Of The Father

John 12:23 But Jesus answered them, saying, 

“The hour has come that the Son of Man should be glorified". 

27 “Now My soul is troubled, and what shall I say? 

Father, save Me from this hour?

But for this purpose I came to this hour.

28 Father, glorify Your name.”

Then a voice came from heaven, saying,

“I have both glorified it and will glorify it again.”

29 Therefore the people who stood by and heard it said that it had thundered.

Others said, “An angel has spoken to Him.”

30 Jesus answered and said, “This voice did not come

because of Me, but for your sake.

31 Now is the judgment of this world;

now the ruler of this world will be cast out. 

 

The Son of man glorified at the Cross

John 12:

32 And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all peoples to Myself.” 

33 This He said, signifying by what death He would die.

[Michael37]

4 hours ago, Mr. M said:

The unique point of view that is fully examined in the Apostle John's

work is that of a witness providing testimony.

This involves his use of the words martyreo [G3140] v.=testify, bear witness, bear record,

and martyria [G3141] n. (the)witness, (the) testimony. 

A thorough examination of this study through John's word is a necessary

preparation for all who will be called as witnesses.

John 3:11 Most assuredly, I say to you, We speak what We know and testify what We have seen,

and you do not receive Our witness. 

According to Christ, a faithful and true witness only speaks of what is known by experience,

and what has been seen of God's own right arm, and in pureness of heart.

This excludes all opinions and speculations as heresay. hearsay.

Quote Reformat: The unique point of view that is fully examined in the Apostle John's work is that of a witness providing testimony. This involves his use of the words martyreo [G3140] v.=testify, bear witness, bear record, and martyria [G3141] n. (the)witness, (the) testimony. A thorough examination of this study through John's word is a necessary preparation for all who will be called as witnesses.

John 3:11 Most assuredly, I say to you, We speak what We know and testify what We have seen, and you do not receive Our witness. 

According to Christ, a faithful and true witness only speaks of what is known by experience, and what has been seen of God's own right arm, and in pureness of heart. This excludes all opinions and speculations as hearsay.

[AdHoc]

9 hours ago, Mr. M said:

The unique point of view that is fully examined in the Apostle John's

work is that of a witness providing testimony.

This involves his use of the words martyreo [G3140] v.=testify, bear witness, bear record,

and martyria [G3141] n. (the)witness, (the) testimony. 

A thorough examination of this study through John's word is a necessary

preparation for all who will be called as witnesses.

John 3:11 Most assuredly, I say to you, We speak what We know and testify what We have seen,

and you do not receive Our witness. 

According to Christ, a faithful and true witness only speaks of what is known by experience,

and what has been seen of God's own right arm, and in pureness of heart.

This excludes all opinions and speculations as heresay hearsay.

 

4 hours ago, Michael37 said:

Quote Reformat: The unique point of view that is fully examined in the Apostle John's work is that of a witness providing testimony. This involves his use of the words martyreo [G3140] v.=testify, bear witness, bear record, and martyria [G3141] n. (the)witness, (the) testimony. A thorough examination of this study through John's word is a necessary preparation for all who will be called as witnesses.

John 3:11 Most assuredly, I say to you, We speak what We know and testify what We have seen, and you do not receive Our witness. 

According to Christ, a faithful and true witness only speaks of what is known by experience, and what has been seen of God's own right arm, and in pureness of heart. This excludes all opinions and speculations as hearsay.

Actually, if a study is done of John's Gospel, one can find each piece of furniture of the Tabernacle fulfilled by Christ. I judge that the main theme of John is God getting INSIDE man as His dwelling place to impart His life and nature to man for His full testimony.

The verse above is connected to the narrative of the brazen serpent. Notice that in Numbers and John, the bitten Israelites where NOT healed. Scripture says "they lived". What followed was exactly our experience. Man, even the best of them - leaders of a God-given religion - have the serpentine nature coursing through their veins. Man needs an essential chnage of nature. A brazen serpent is one who has taken the form of a serpent but NOT its nature.

[Mr. M]

37 minutes ago, AdHoc said:

 

Actually, if a study is done of John's Gospel, one can find each piece of furniture of the Tabernacle fulfilled by Christ. I judge that the main theme of John is God getting INSIDE man as His dwelling place to impart His life and nature to man for His full testimony.

The verse above is connected to the narrative of the brazen serpent. Notice that in Numbers and John, the bitten Israelites where NOT healed. Scripture says "they lived". What followed was exactly our experience. Man, even the best of them - leaders of a God-given religion - have the serpentine nature coursing through their veins. Man needs an essential chnage of nature. A brazen serpent is one who has taken the form of a serpent but NOT its nature.

 

5 hours ago, Mr. M said:

The Son of man glorified at the Cross

John 12:

32 And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all peoples to Myself.” 

33 This He said, signifying by what death He would die.

The brazen serpent is used to foreshadow the cross.

This fulfills many other prophetic verses, such as the Lord

"lifted up as a banner" to the Nations.

Isaiah 45:22 Look to Me, and be saved,
All you ends of the earth!
For I am God, and there is no other.

[AdHoc]

11 hours ago, Mr. M said:

 

The brazen serpent is used to foreshadow the cross.

This fulfills many other prophetic verses, such as the Lord

"lifted up as a banner" to the Nations.

Isaiah 45:22 Look to Me, and be saved,
All you ends of the earth!
For I am God, and there is no other.

Amen. What do you think of "ALL peoples"? The word "men" (KJV) or "peoples" does not appear in the original. It reads thus;

32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all unto me (Jn.12:32).

ALL ... ?

[D. Adrien]

A number of places in the book of Revelation, recorded by John, also mention testimony; (KJV),

Rev. 1:2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. 

:9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Rev. 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

And importantly, Rev 19:10, last sentences: ... I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

[Mr. M]

2 hours ago, AdHoc said:

Amen. What do you think of "ALL peoples"? The word "men" (KJV) or "peoples" does not appear in the original. It reads thus;

32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all unto me (Jn.12:32).

ALL ... ?

Many draw back to perdition.

Hebrews 10:39 But we are not of those who draw back to perdition,

but of those who believe to the saving of the soul.

[AdHoc]

5 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

Many draw back to perdition.

Hebrews 10:39 But we are not of those who draw back to perdition,

but of those who believe to the saving of the soul.

The common doctrine among Christians is that Jesus did for our sins and SOME will make use of it and go to heaven. The OTHERS will not - and go to hell, But the Bible ends with death defeated, men judged, Israel restored and a New Heaven and New Earth. That is, notwithstanding the Lake of Fire, God is recovering the earth, not annihilating it. But God's primary and essential attribute is righteousness. So, if the wages of sin is death, and all have sinned, then on what basis can God raise the dead?

Romans 5 gives the reason why men die. Verses 12-17 lay forth a sad picture. Because of the Law of Kinds (Gen.1:11-12) everything will produce what it is. A dog has puppies, cats have kittens and sinful man produces sinful men. Romans 5 even says that our condition is not even our own fault, but Adam's. This sinful nature is designated "sin" (singular). It is used 47 times in the Book of Romans, whereas the word "sins" (plural) is used only four times. "Sins" (plural) are the issue, or result, of man's sinful nature. In God's recovery work He has to deal with sin (singular) and sins (plural). Not only because of judicial retribution, but because God's salvation is for the whole man.

Thus, when our Lord Jesus appeared and ministered on earth, he came, among other things, as BOTH the "Sin Offering" AND the "Trespass Offering". John Baptist, sent in the Spirit of Elijah to announce Jesus, announces Him with the words;

"Behold the Lamb of God Who takes away the SIN of the world"!

Jesus' death is valid for all men. Israel had been worshiping idols in Egypt WITH the Egyptians. All were guilty of death. And equally ALL were allowed to paint the doors with blood. The difference was not nationality. It is NOT; "... the Lamb of Israel Who takes the sin of Israel away ...!" The difference was FAITH. Israel believed Moses and lived while Egypt did not heed the warning. The Lamb is for THE WORLD and is there to take the SIN (singular) away so that God can JUDICIALLY raise men from the dead. The Trespass Offering is to save men from the Second Death. The Lamb and the brazen serpent are there to allow men to LIVE PHYSICALLY. To conquer death ALL men must be raised. That is why the wording of scripture is ... "I will draw ALL to me". The Lake of Fire is for "SINS". Death is for "SIN" (singular).