stars in the sky

[Dennis1209]

14 hours ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

Yes pretty big event being that the Sun shall be darkened, the Moon turned to blood, and the stars of heaven falling to the earth.  Being that our sun is considered one of the smallest stars and some stars are said to be over a 1000x bigger than our sun.  What would that look like a star 1000x bigger than our sun falling to earth like a fig leaf?  Falling to earth like a leaf would be some very weak words.  Besides how long would it take for the nearest star (not our Sun) to fall to earth being that it is said to be over 4 light years away.

We all have different thoughts and pictures, trying to rationalize imagery, what scripture tells us. The Greek word for stars below is (astēr), where we derive our English word asteroid.

Revelation 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

            •          (FBoll, ZNW 18, 1918, 40–48. Diod S 16, 66, 3: a marvelous, divinely sent heavenly body leads the fleet of Timoleon toward Italy. When he and his companions noticed this heavenly manifestation, περιχαρεῖς ἦσαν [16, 66, 5].—On the star s. μάγος 1.) Falling fr. heaven in the last tribulation Mt 24:29; Mk 13:25; Rv 6:13 (all three Is 13:10; cp. Artem. 2, 36 p. 137, 15 καταπίπτοντες εἰς γῆν οἱ ἀστέρες). ^[1]

Aster is used for the bright morning Star (Jesus), stars & planets, and supernatural beings. In the context of Matthew 24:29, it sounds to me like asteroid impacts. The ejecta of an impact would cause the effects of said verse, not to mention triggering earthquakes and volcanic activity polluting the atmosphere globally.

If we are at the tail end of the last days, as I suspect, this coming asteroid Apophis, which will become visible to the naked eye in 2025, is prophetically interesting in several ways, too numerous to comment on again.

Psalm 147:4 He telleth the number of the stars (H. kôkāb) ; he calleth them all by their names.

Psalm 147:4 is interesting. I am not trying to read anything into this verse, but it sounds personal and a relationship.

I genuinely believe we have reached this point in history:

Luke 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

Is the following figurative or literal language? If literal as I believe, think of the implications of our physics, understanding, and awe inspiring omnipotence.

Jeremiah 10:12 He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion.

Revelation 6:14 (KJV) And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

 

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^[1] William Arndt et al., A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2000), 145.

[Dennis1209]

12 minutes ago, nebula said:

Many Bible scholars have analyzed that "stars" and "host of heaven" are synonymous terms with what we call angels.

That's interesting. You brought that up just as I hit the post button. 

[Jedi4Yahweh]

5 hours ago, nebula said:

Many Bible scholars have analyzed that "stars" and "host of heaven" are synonymous terms with what we call angels.

Absolutely agree.

Kind of interesting that the majority of stars and planets are named after Greek and Roman gods. 

The word 'planet' comes from the Greek word which means 'to deceive' (G4106) the same word in Hebrew 'nasa' also means 'to deceive' or 'lead astray'.

Edited November 25, 2024 by Jedi4Yahweh

[nebula]

3 hours ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

Absolutely agree.

Kind of interesting that the majority of stars and planets are named after Greek and Roman gods. 

The word 'planet' comes from the Greek word which means 'to deceive' (G4106) the same word in Hebrew 'nasa' also means 'to deceive' or 'lead astray'.

It would be nice to know what the Hebrews called the planets.

Interesting, I heard that 'planet' came from the word 'wander' because these bright lights wandered across the sky.

[Jedi4Yahweh]

On 11/25/2024 at 5:22 PM, nebula said:

It would be nice to know what the Hebrews called the planets.

Interesting, I heard that 'planet' came from the word 'wander' because these bright lights wandered across the sky.

The bible never uses the concept of planet.  One translation misused the word planet for constellations, which means groups of stars rather than planets:  The bible says God created the Sun (singular), Moon (singular) and the stars (plural) no mention of planets, so what we would call a planet falls into the group as stars.  The bible says God created the Sun, Moon, and stars and their purpose was to provide light to the earth and for signs, seasons, days, and years.  So, basically the bibles says the Sun, Moon and stars are a gigantic clock in sky which also provides light for the earth.

The greek word 'planeo' from where we get the word 'planet' means: to wander, or go astray, or be deceived.   All the stars of heaven move in the same pattern, except for the wandering stars/planets. They have their own orbit, not in relation to all the other stars of the sky and hence why they are referred to as the wandering stars aka planets.