did jesus ever touch money?

[nebula]

53 minutes ago, ahmedcrow said:

at Matthew at the example fish he didn't directly by no-touch sense! I think that

Sorry, but this sentence is unclear. Would you please fix this?

[other one]

5 hours ago, nebula said:

Sorry, but this sentence is unclear. Would you please fix this?

Neb, I think he's from Egypt and this is a translation program thingie.  I've seen this in chatting with Islamic folks from overseas.

[LaMonte]

On 12/9/2024 at 2:47 PM, AnOrangeCat said:

I would be careful about making a theology or a teaching out of something that isn't mentioned like this.

There is no biblical record of Jesus touching money or asking for money or receiving payment for preaching. 

Jesus talked a lot about money or finances. He discussed the topic of money more often than He spoke of faith and prayer combined. Jesus typically taught in parables-and 11 of His 40 parables were about money or used money to teach us spiritual truths.

It seems to me kingdom of God is the central theme in Jesus's teaching. According to Mark, Jesus's message can be summarized as: “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel” (Mark 1:15; see also Matt. 4:17, 23; Luke 4:43).

I don't think Ghostdog trying to make a teaching or theology statement. It's just something he noticed and I noticed the same thing. Thank you Ghostdog for your input.

[BornAgain490]

It can be reasonably inferred from scripture in Mark 12:15-16 that Jesus held the coin that was brought to Him after He said, "bring me a penny, that I may see it."

[Deadworm]

Jesus appointed Judas the group's treasurer and would authorize financing of their many expenditures.  For example, the disciples speculate that Jesus asked Judas to leave and buy things for the upcoming Passover festival (John 13:29).  Jesus had well-heeled female disciples like Joanna the wife of Chuza, Herod's steward, who traveled in Jesus' entourage and provided financial support (Luke 8:1-3).

Beyond that, we know little about the itinerant lifestyle of Jesus and His disciples.  He notes that He sometimes has nowhere "to lay His head" at night.  But we can't assume that He and His disciples were permanently homeless with no place to stay.   I mean, imagine what poor shape their robes would be in if they slept outside every night!  Remember, His disciples abandoned their careers as fishermen to follow Him.  From second century Jewish skeptics we hear that "He made His living shamefully as a beggar."  But I think it more likely that, as needed, He asked His supporters for donations to pay for new clothes, food, and other supplies. Then there were the travel supplies and expenses for the various supplies needed for His regular trips to the various Jewish festivals.  Then there were onerous Roman and Temple taxes that all Jews were required to pay.  As the group leader, Jesus no doubt had to rajse and handle a lot of money just to perpetuate His ministry travels.

[nebula]

7 hours ago, BornAgain490 said:

It can be reasonably inferred from scripture in Mark 12:15-16 that Jesus held the coin that was brought to Him after He said, "bring me a penny, that I may see it."

Great catch!

[The_Patriot21]

Complete nonsense. Jesus was 33 at the time of His death.

He started His ministry at age 30. He didn't call his disciples until he started His ministry.

He lived in a money driven economy, much like today. 

He wasn't born into wealth, and there's no indication he ever became wealthy, so hiring servants to handle money during his first 30 years would be out of the question.

There's nowhere in scripture where the Pharisees mocked him for living in His mother's basement for His 30 years before ministry, and they certainly would have done that as it wasn't the norm.

Like everyone else that lived back then, when He became an adult he had to eat, and provide lodging for Himself. It's likely He had a career, though we don't know what that is for sure.

The chance of Him making it to His 30th birthday without ever touching money is slim to none.

It's not mentioned in Scripture because Jesus never sought money, and Jesus was never concerned about it. That doesn't mean He never touched it, just that His touching it was not a big deal for the story.

[nebula]

On 12/10/2024 at 12:41 PM, other one said:

Neb, I think he's from Egypt and this is a translation program thingie.  I've seen this in chatting with Islamic folks from overseas.

OK, thanks for the heads up.

I still can't make sense out of what he was trying to say, though. :-/

EDIT - Oh, he was saying was BornAgain490 later wrote. OK, cool!

Edited December 13, 2024 by nebula

[nebula]

On 12/10/2024 at 9:34 PM, LaMonte said:

I don't think Ghostdog trying to make a teaching or theology statement. It's just something he noticed and I noticed the same thing. Thank you Ghostdog for your input.

People justify homosexuality because "Jesus never said anything against it."

Using the the lack of something being mentioned as evidence of anything can take you down some very bizarre paths.

[Ray12614]

12 hours ago, The_Patriot21 said:

Complete nonsense. Jesus was 33 at the time of His death.

He started His ministry at age 30. He didn't call his disciples until he started His ministry.

He lived in a money driven economy, much like today. 

He wasn't born into wealth, and there's no indication he ever became wealthy, so hiring servants to handle money during his first 30 years would be out of the question.

There's nowhere in scripture where the Pharisees mocked him for living in His mother's basement for His 30 years before ministry, and they certainly would have done that as it wasn't the norm.

Like everyone else that lived back then, when He became an adult he had to eat, and provide lodging for Himself. It's likely He had a career, though we don't know what that is for sure.

The chance of Him making it to His 30th birthday without ever touching money is slim to none.

It's not mentioned in Scripture because Jesus never sought money, and Jesus was never concerned about it. That doesn't mean He never touched it, just that His touching it was not a big deal for the story.

Well . . . . Jesus as a man lived in an human body, and as such did many things that is required by an human body and are not recorded in scripture (as previous posts say). Some things just never need recorded as they have no impact on the ministry of Jesus and what he accomplished. He ate food, therefore he got rid of the waste that was left over via normal biological means (no need to go into detail) and that was never recorded in scripture (for obvious reasons LOL).

Working as an carpenter, and as head of his deceased earthly father's family, I have no doubt that the handling of money was included as part of being paid for his carpentry skills and products. Certainly Jesus was an tither (as required by Jewish law) and since he was not an farmer or herdsman, what would he bring for tithes and offerings? Tables? LOL. No, he must have brought the increase of wages being paid for such carpentry work.

my 2 cents . . . Ray . . .