1 Cor. 15:23 and Selective Resurrection

[FreeGrace]

4 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

<<<I am not really interested in what anyone claims about things that may be symbolic, or metaphors, or figures of speech.  Only the writer knows what he was thinking.  Neither you or I do, so I don't care because it doesn't matter.>>>

Then that explains why you don't care much about Revelation because it reveals things to us by signs.

Your "conclusion" is wrong.  I do care and I understand the order of things because of the clear verses throughout the NT.  But the symbols, etc will become very clear when the actions begin to unfold.  Until then, everyone has a different opinion.

4 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

The revelation of Jesus Christ which God gave to Him to show to His slaves the things that must quickly take place; and He made it known by signs, sending it by His angel to His slave John, (Rev. 1:1) 

There are very bad intepretations, better interpretations, and arguably the best interpretations.

The best understanding are the verses using plain language.  For symbolic, metaphors and figures of speech, only the author can really explain them.  Everyone else just guesses.

4 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

I have explored better and imo best ones. I have interpreted the Bible with the Bible. I have not let imagination run wild. 

I have considered where these signs appeared elsewhere in the Bible and used that principle for better interpretations. 

If you live through the Tribulation, you'll have some idea of how accurate you were.

[FreeGrace]

4 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

<<<Yes sir!!  Only one resurrection, for ALL believers (those who are Christ's) at His Second Advent.  Could not be said any more clear.  This verse alone refutes all your claims.  And there are many more.>>>

No it hasn't  Some reading along can tell the difference between standing faithfully with the Scripture and someone who is just plain stubborn. 

And what does that have to do with 1 Cor 15:23?  Nothing.

[FreeGrace]

4 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

<<<Yes, heaven will be emptied of all humans at the Second advent.  There will be NO REASON for any human to either stay in heaven or go back there.  And the Bible is totally silent on any trips to heaven.>>>

So stop arguing with me as if I am teaching that - ie.  heaven as a perminent eternal home of the saved.

That is NOT what I have been telling anyone on this thread. I have been claiming resurrection takes place for a remnant at the beginning of the GT.

I'm simply stating the facts as presented in Scripture.

4 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

 But if you throw up your hands in dispair that it is anybody's guess what the signs in Revelation show, than your veiled vision and incomplete understanding are not my fault.

Why would I be in despair?  I'm not worried at all.  When everything comes down, things will become quite clear, I have no doubt.

4 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

 

    This is something like someone reading the NT and only coming away with "We need to keep the golden rule.  All this other stuff about the Son of God is just anybody's wild guess." 

Far fetched and wrong example.

[FreeGrace]

2 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

<<< Of course.  You act as though I don't believe in eternal rewards.  😭>>>

Stop sobbing. Rewards do not have to be eternal to be rewards.

Stop all your erroneous conclusions, or maybe its just being dramatic.  By the time all believers have been through the Bema, ALL reward will definitely be eternal, because at that time, all believers will be in a resurrection (eternal) immortal body.

2 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

If you are slack at school your graduati0n may be delayed. And you may have to attend summer school. You miss the reward of the graduation ceremony for those who wisely utilize the time wisely. 

This has nothing to with end times.  Or there would be clear and plain wording in at least some of the resurrection passages.  But no.  There is still only 1 resurrection.

2 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

 This is an illustration of dispensational reward followed by the common benefit secured by those who were tardy for the reward.

Sure.  Show me the verse.

2 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

So, the NT teaches reward to the timely astute. Loss of reward to the unwise. Yet eventual catching up with the others of those who were disciplined. 

Show me the verse.

[Feedmysheep]

On 1/3/2025 at 12:16 PM, FreeGrace said:

 

 

 

<<<I see that you don't properly understand what "one baptism" even means. >>>

 I understand both baptism of water and baptism in the Holy Spirit. 

<<<If you are thinking of being dunked in water, you are way off again. >>>

 Sorry. But you are the one who needs to come back to what the Bible says. 

For also in one Spirit we were all baptized into one Body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and were all given to drink one Spirit. (1 Cor. 12:13)

 In fact we do drink that into which we are baptized - the Spirit. 

<<< The Greek word was originally to describe a cloth being immersed in a vat of dye and coming out with a NEW identity (color).>>>

 The word picture used in this passage about the Jews and the Gentiles being baptized is not that they drink clothing.  Although the clothing analogy appears elsewhere.  In THIS passage what the believers are emmersed into is that also which they DRINK into themselves. ... we were all baptized . . . were all given . . . all given  to drink one Spirit. (1 Cor. 12:13)

  <<<Over time, the word began to be used in that sense, of either a new identity, or being identified with someone/thing.>>>

  The new identity is both from without and from within. This passage covers both. The living Person into which we are baptized we also are all given to drink into ourselves.  This being in Christ and Christ being in us is exactly the teaching of Jesus about the saved.

In that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you. (John 14:20) 

 Baptism in the Holy Spirit is mentioned in two places taking place at two different times. 

At the day of Pentecost for the Jews.

For John baptized with water, but you shall be baptized in the Holy Spirit not many days from now.(Acts 1:5)

At the house of Cornelius for the Gentiles Acts 10 . Peter recounts the experience in chapter 11.

And as I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell on them just as also on us in the beginning. And I remembered the word of the Lord, how He said, John baptized with water, but you shall be baptized in the Holy Spirit. (Acts 22:15.16)

So your NT teaches the one baptism in the Holy Spirit took place on two distinct occasions. And both Jews and Gentiles drink into them He into Whom they have been baptized. 

Now that putting on Christ as clothing is ALSO a word picture used in the NT. 

Edited January 5 by Feedmysheep
Grammer

[FreeGrace]

10 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

<<<I see that you don't properly understand what "one baptism" even means. >>>

 I understand both baptism of water and baptism in the Holy Spirit.

So which baptism is in Eph 4:5?

10 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

<<<If you are thinking of being dunked in water, you are way off again. >>>

 Sorry. But you are the one who needs to come back to what the Bible says. 

For also in one Spirit we were all baptized into one Body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and were all given to drink one Spirit. (1 Cor. 12:13)

So, you're STILL thinking being dunked in water then?  I explained how 'bapto' was used in the ancient world, and how it began to be used for IDENTIFICATION.  And I gave verses that SUPPORT that usage.

Why don't you EVER address my points and verses?  All you do is gloss over them and ignore them.

10 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

In fact we do drink that into which we are baptized - the Spirit. 

You don't understand metaphors, obviously.  Read John 6.  Jesus talked about EATING Him and DRINKING Him.  Do you think He was teaching cannibalism?

10 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

<<< The Greek word was originally to describe a cloth being immersed in a vat of dye and coming out with a NEW identity (color).>>>

 The word picture used in this passage about the Jews and the Gentiles being baptized is not that they drink clothing.

There is NO connection between drinking and either being immersed in water or identified with someone.  You are way off track here.

10 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

  Although the clothing analogy appears elsewhere.  In THIS passage what the believers are emmersed into is that also which they DRINK into themselves. ... we were all baptized . . . were all given . . . all given  to drink one Spirit. (1 Cor. 12:13)

I'm sorry that you have no understanding of metaphors.  Please don't read John 6, or you will probably try cannibalism.

10 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

<<<Over time, the word began to be used in that sense, of either a new identity, or being identified with someone/thing.>>>

  The new identity is both from without and from within. This passage covers both. The living Person into which we are baptized we also are all given to drink into ourselves.  This being in Christ and Christ being in us is exactly the teaching of Jesus about the saved.

In that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you. (John 14:20)

It seems all this just way over your head.

10 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

 Baptism in the Holy Spirit is mentioned in two places taking place at two different times.

In EVERY case, it refers to the FACT that the indwelling Holy Spirit IDENTIFIES the believer as being IN CHRIST.  Eph 1:13 and 2 Cor 5:17 reflect this.

10 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

For John baptized with water, but you shall be baptized in the Holy Spirit not many days from now.(Acts 1:5)

John the baptizer said the same thing in Mark 1:8.  He was differentiating being immersed in water (what he did) with being IDENTIFIED with Christ (what Jesus does with the Holy Spirit by placing Him in the believer when they believe.

The baptism of/with/in the Holy Spirit does NOT involve any water at any time.

10 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

At the house of Cornelius for the Gentiles Acts 10 . Peter recounts the experience in chapter 11.

And as I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell on them just as also on us in the beginning. And I remembered the word of the Lord, how He said, John baptized with water, but you shall be baptized in the Holy Spirit. (Acts 22:15.16)

When they believed, they were indwelt with the Holy Spirit.  That IDENTIFIED them as being IN CHRIST.

10 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

So your NT teaches the one baptism in the Holy Spirit took place on two distinct occasions. And both Jews and Gentiles drink into them He in whom they have been baptized into.

No.  The baptism of/in/with the Holy Spirit take place EVERY time a person believes in Christ.

10 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

 Now that putting on Christ as clothing is ALSO a word picture used in the NT. 

Irrelevant to the discussion.

[Feedmysheep]

18 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

 

 For symbolic, metaphors and figures of speech, only the author can really explain them.  Everyone else just guesses.

 

 <<<Your "conclusion" is wrong.  I do care and I understand the order of things because of the clear verses throughout the NT.>>>

  You likely will always consider some conclusions wrong as long as your gathering of the facts of Scripture is partial and incomplete.

  <<< But the symbols, etc will become very clear when the actions begin to unfold.  Until then, everyone has a different opinion.>>>

  That's not too bad.  I don't disagree with that. However, we can learn from those who are inheriting the promises on our behalf.   

  It is not wise to assume "What I know is all that is to be known."  Considering the enlightened help of some who have engaged in spiritual warfare can help us to see what is ahead. 

<<<The best understanding are the verses using plain language.>>>

One Christian's "plain language"  and another Christian's "plain language"  could sometimes be a matter the amount of gathered facts from Scripture. 

 <<<If you live through the Tribulation, you'll have some idea of how accurate you were.>>>

   This is true. 

    But it is also true that it is not MANDATORY that we have to WAIT for that. 

     Read it again -  Because you have kept the word of My endurance, I also will keep you out of the hour of trial, which is about to come on the whole inhabited earth, to try them who dwell on the earth. (Rev. 3:10)

 Because  THIS condition was fullfilled THAT result will Jesus cause to happen.

 We do not have to wait to learn this endurance through His living word. We as Christians have our tribulations, botherings, trials, upsets, etc. to endure in Christ everyday throughout our Christian life. 

  The Apostle John said - I John, your brother and fellow partaker in the tribulation and kingdom and endurance in Jesus, was on the island called Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus. (Rev. 1:9) 

  He was learning the word of His Lord's endurance. He was not waiting for the great tribulation to incentives him to learn. 

 Other dear brothers and sisters, even up to this present moment are learning to keep the word of the Lord's endurance. 
 You and I also have our daily trials life long, to learn the word of Christ's endurance. And ONE DAY some living will be raptured before the hour of trial world-wide commences because the lessons of endurance have already been applied.   

These are plain words indeed:

Because you have kept the word of My endurance, I also will keep you out of the hour of trial, which is about to come on the whole inhabited earth, to try them who dwell on the earth. (Rev. 3:10) 

And for those who died in this faithfulness learned, they sought a better resurrection. An overcomer's resurrection before the 1,260 days. 

And she brought forth a son, a man-child, who is to shepherd all the nations with an iron rod; and her child was caught up to God and to His throne.

And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place there prepared by God so that they might nourish her there a thousand two hundred and sixty days. (Rev. 12:5,6) 

I must hasten to add that other overcomer will be produced during the GT. But these firstfruits and these the man-child will be raptured before that tribulstion of 1,260 days. 

Either group could include anyone presently reading these words. 

Edited January 5 by Feedmysheep
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[FreeGrace]

2 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

 <<<Your "conclusion" is wrong.  I do care and I understand the order of things because of the clear verses throughout the NT.>>>

  You likely will always consider some conclusions wrong as long as your gathering of the facts of Scripture is partial and incomplete.

Rather than just lower yourself to these cheap shots, why not rather SHOW me what I've left out?  I certainly won't include all the verses full of metaphors, figures of speech and symbolism, because ONLY the writer really knows what was in his mind when he wrote.  And I KNOW that you cannot read the minds of either dead or living persons.  So please don't pretend that you can.

2 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

  <<< But the symbols, etc will become very clear when the actions begin to unfold.  Until then, everyone has a different opinion.>>>

  That's not too bad.  I don't disagree with that. However, we can learn from those who are inheriting the promises on our behalf.

We have all we need from the plain language verses for learning.  But all you seem to use are verses and chapters just chock full of symbolism, metaphors and figures of speech, which you have informed your opinions.

2 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

It is not wise to assume "What I know is all that is to be known."  Considering the enlightened help of some who have engaged in spiritual warfare can help us to see what is ahead. 

Where did I say that?  I do know all that has been clearly stated.  Obviously I leave all the symbolism, metaphors and figures of speech alone because I don't need to understand them.  All of that will become clear when they unfold.  I may not even survive the Trib long enough to see the majority of them.  

2 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

<<<The best understanding are the verses using plain language.>>>

One Christian's "plain language"  and another Christian's "plain language"  could sometimes be a matter the amount of gathered facts from Scripture.

I disagree with your opinion.  When I say "plain language" I clearly mean words that cannot be twisted to "mean" something other or opposite of the actual words.

2 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

<<<If you live through the Tribulation, you'll have some idea of how accurate you were.>>>

   This is true.

That is why I don't take much stock in the verses with symbolism, metaphors and figures of speech.  No one can possibly know what the author was thinking when he wrote them.

2 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

But it is also true that it is not MANDATORY that we have to WAIT for that. 

I never said anything was mandatory.  I SAID no one can read the mind of the writers of Scripture and understand all that was meant by all the symbolism, metaphors and figures of speech.  They all will become very clear WHEN they unfold.  

Such details are not needed beforehand.

2 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

Read it again -  Because you have kept the word of My endurance, I also will keep you out of the hour of trial, which is about to come on the whole inhabited earth, to try them who dwell on the earth. (Rev. 3:10)

 Because  THIS condition was fullfilled THAT result will Jesus cause to happen.

Not sure what your sentence means.  This verse doesn't refer to the "rapture", though many pre-tribbers use it that way.

Just as God protected the Israelites from the 10 plagues in Egypt WHILE they were STILL in Egypt, God is just as able today to do the same thing.  

The important thing is that God left the Jews IN Egypt while He was pouring out the plagues ON Egypt, all the while protecting them from the plagues.

2 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

 We do not have to wait to learn this endurance through His living word. We as Christians have our tribulations, botherings, trials, upsets, etc. to endure in Christ everyday throughout our Christian life. 

Yes, you WILL HAVE TO WAIT to understand all the symbolism, metaphors and figures of speech in Rev 7 and 14 and everywhere else in Revelation.  If you live long enough.

When these things happen, that will be the confirmation of the truth of Scripture.  And it will be very clear to the observants of the events.

Such as the number "666".  Greek letters all have numerical values, so WHEN the beast shows up, and THEN his name will be know, applying the numerical values to the Greek letters will add up to "666".  No one can predict the beast's name now.

2 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

  The Apostle John said - I John, your brother and fellow partaker in the tribulation and kingdom and endurance in Jesus, was on the island called Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus. (Rev. 1:9) 

  He was learning the word of His Lord's endurance. He was not waiting for the great tribulation to incentives him to learn.

I think you are misreading the verse.  John wasn't referring to "the endurance of Jesus" but his own endurance "in Jesus".  Your comment doesn't make sense.

2 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

 Other dear brothers and sisters, even up to this present moment are learning to keep the word of the Lord's endurance.

The issue has never been "the Lord's endurance", but rather our own endurance.

2 Tim 2:12 - if we endure, we will also reign with him.  If we deny him, he will also deny us;

Please explain what this verse teaches.

2 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

 
 You and I also have our daily trials life long, to learn the word of Christ's endurance.

Still missing the point.  Our daily trials are to teach us TO HAVE endurance.

2 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

And ONE DAY some living will be raptured before the hour of trial world-wide commences because the lessons of endurance have already been applied.

No they won't.  1 Cor 15:23 doesn't permit that thought.

2 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

   These are plain words indeed:

Because you have kept the word of My endurance, I also will keep you out of the hour of trial, which is about to come on the whole inhabited earth, to try them who dwell on the earth. (Rev. 3:10)

Believers learn endurance from God's Word.  The ONLY source for spiritual endurance.

2 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

 And for those who died in this faithfulness learned, they sought a better resurrection. An overcomer's resurrection before the 1,260 days.

No such resurrection.  There will be only 1 for the saved.  Dan 12:2, John 5:29, Acts 24:15, and 1 Cor 15:23.

2 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

 And she brought forth a son, a man-child, who is to shepherd all the nations with an iron rod; and her child was caught up to God and to His throne.

Jesus Christ, the King of kings.

2 hours ago, Feedmysheep said:

And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place there prepared by God so that they might nourish her there a thousand two hundred and sixty days. (Rev. 12:5,6) 

I must hasten to add that other overcomer will be produced during the GT. But these firstfruits and these the man-child will be raptured before that tribulstion of 1,260 days. 

Either group could include anyone presently reading these words. 

I don't agree with your conclusions, since the Bible very plainly refutes multiple resurrections.

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4 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

Rather than just lower yourself to these cheap shots, why not rather SHOW me what I've left out?  I certainly won't include all the verses full of metaphors, figures of speech and symbolism, because ONLY the writer really knows what was in his mind when he wrote.  And I KNOW that you cannot read the minds of either dead or living persons.  So please don't pretend that you can.

We have all we need from the plain language verses for learning.  But all you seem to use are verses and chapters just chock full of symbolism, metaphors and figures of speech, which you have informed your opinions.

Where did I say that?  I do know all that has been clearly stated.  Obviously I leave all the symbolism, metaphors and figures of speech alone because I don't need to understand them.  All of that will become clear when they unfold.  I may not even survive the Trib long enough to see the majority of them.  

I disagree with your opinion.  When I say "plain language" I clearly mean words that cannot be twisted to "mean" something other or opposite of the actual words.

That is why I don't take much stock in the verses with symbolism, metaphors and figures of speech.  No one can possibly know what the author was thinking when he wrote them.

I never said anything was mandatory.  I SAID no one can read the mind of the writers of Scripture and understand all that was meant by all the symbolism, metaphors and figures of speech.  They all will become very clear WHEN they unfold.  

Such details are not needed beforehand.

Not sure what your sentence means.  This verse doesn't refer to the "rapture", though many pre-tribbers use it that way.

Just as God protected the Israelites from the 10 plagues in Egypt WHILE they were STILL in Egypt, God is just as able today to do the same thing.  

The important thing is that God left the Jews IN Egypt while He was pouring out the plagues ON Egypt, all the while protecting them from the plagues.

Yes, you WILL HAVE TO WAIT to understand all the symbolism, metaphors and figures of speech in Rev 7 and 14 and everywhere else in Revelation.  If you live long enough.

When these things happen, that will be the confirmation of the truth of Scripture.  And it will be very clear to the observants of the events.

Such as the number "666".  Greek letters all have numerical values, so WHEN the beast shows up, and THEN his name will be know, applying the numerical values to the Greek letters will add up to "666".  No one can predict the beast's name now.

I think you are misreading the verse.  John wasn't referring to "the endurance of Jesus" but his own endurance "in Jesus".  Your comment doesn't make sense.

The issue has never been "the Lord's endurance", but rather our own endurance.

2 Tim 2:12 - if we endure, we will also reign with him.  If we deny him, he will also deny us;

Please explain what this verse teaches.

Still missing the point.  Our daily trials are to teach us TO HAVE endurance.

No they won't.  1 Cor 15:23 doesn't permit that thought.

Believers learn endurance from God's Word.  The ONLY source for spiritual endurance.

No such resurrection.  There will be only 1 for the saved.  Dan 12:2, John 5:29, Acts 24:15, and 1 Cor 15:23.

Jesus Christ, the King of kings.

I don't agree with your conclusions, since the Bible very plainly refutes multiple resurrections.

Lighten up a bit. Don’t make it personal.

Please.

[Feedmysheep]

On 1/4/2025 at 3:06 PM, FreeGrace said:

 

 For symbolic, metaphors and figures of speech, only the author can really explain them.  Everyone else just guesses.

 

 The Bible is no doubt filled with many, many metaphors, allegories, and signs. When we read that Jesus is the Lamb of God it may take some time and experience with more reading to understand what this metaphor means. Some things do take time.

 Now let's come to the sign of a man-child captured up to God and His throne. Let us consider that the woman of universal light that delivers the man-child subsquently is harrassed by the dragon for a "short time" of one thousand two hundred and sixty days.   

One view is "Oh, the child is Jesus and the mother is the Virgin Mary."  But I think there is a better intepretation.

Then there is "No, the child is Jesus and the mother is the nation of Israel."  But I think there is still a better interpretation.

That the child is Jesus is very good. But if we understand the Bible JESUS intends to duplicate Himself with people [plural] with Him He has the full way to transform them. 

And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. Because those whom He foreknew, He also predestinated to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the Firstborn among many brothers; (Rom. 8:28,29) 

God's purpose is that we all eventually are conformed to the image of Jesus Christ His Firstborn Son. Many sons like THE Son - that is God's eternal purpose. 

 But does this God's purpose have anything to do with Revelation 12? 

The man-child caught up to God's throne in heaven certainly does what Jesus does. That is shepherd the nations with a strong iron rod. So we cannot be wrong to say Jesus is not either entirely the meaning of the man-child or intrinsically related to him.  

We should notice that not only to the seed of the woman in Genesis was promised to crush the head of the serpent. But to the church fully headed up by Him also the promise is. 

 The prophecy of Christ as the seed of the woman: And I will put enmity / Between you and the woman / And between your seed and her seed; / He will bruise you on the head, / But you will bruise him on the heel. (Genesis 3:15) 

The prophesy of Christ within the church as the serpent crushing seed: 

Now the God of peace will crush Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus be with you.(Rom. 16:20) 

We have Christ the Son of God as the woman's seed who will go to the cross and crush the head of the Devil. You well know this. 

But we also have at the conslusion of the most basic epistle of major Christian doctrines a prophecy. The prevailing church corporately will ALSO crush Satan under our feet. 

Now is the time to speak of plain language. What Christ begins individually the church continues corporately. "Under your feet" in Rom. 16:20 must indicate the saints share in this triumphant defeat of Satan. 

 I do not mean that any redeemed sinner can accomplish the eternal redemption Christ ALONE accomplished on Calvery's cross.  But the seed of the Woman in Genesis has His continuation by being dispensed into the saved. And victory spreads down from the Head into the Body even down to the feet. 

 Is there need to guess over much what the sign of the man-child is then? 

 The woman who gave him birth is bigger than just Eve. She is also bigger than just Israel. She is bigger than the virgin Mary. She must include a larger scope as a Woman which includes the patriarchs, Israel, and the church.  She must stretch FROM Eve though the age of the law, the church, and up until the time of the great tribulation. All these generation of BELIEVERS in God make up this woman. 

 The man-child must include Jesus. But God dispenses the life of Jesus into all those saved by Jesus. Jesus Christ in resurrection became a divine life imparting Spirit to give life to His people. [T]he last Adam became a life giving Spirit. (1 Cor. 15:45) 

So it is not the entire woman that is seen raptured to the throne. But at least a part of her, a part within her and a child, is caught up to heaven and God's throne.

This is  installment of "conformed to the image of His Son." And this is an installment of "the God of peace will crush Satan under your feet". 

The larger woman of universal light will eventaully become the total Bride and Wife of the Lamb, the New Jerusalem. But before the eternal age a remnant from her who are the ones into whom Christ has been dispensed into to the degree they co-share spiritual warfare are resurrected and caught up in rapture to heaven. 

And she brought forth a son, a man-child, who is to shepherd all the nations with an iron rod; and her child was caught up to God and to His throne.(Rev. 12:5) 

He who has ears to hear let him hear.