Annihilationism

[GodIsLife]

I believe in annihilationism. This means I believe that hell is not literally a place where people are tortured forever but that it is eternal annihilation. By eternal annihilation I mean that the devil, demons and godless people will cease to exist when they are thrown into the lake of fire. It's like throwing a piece of paper into the fire. It is consumed by the fire and is no longer there.

There are passages in the Bible that at first glance seem to speak in favor of a hell with literal eternal torture, but I believe that these passages should be understood symbolically or otherwise. Besides, there are many more passages in the Bible that speak for annihilationism. I'll give an example: at the very beginning of the Bible where God warned Adam and said if he sins he will die. God did not say that he would go to a place where he would be tormented forever but just said that he will die if he sins. Death is non-existence. God said to him: From dust you came to dust you will return. God created Adam from nothing and when Adam is dead he is nothing again.

A living soul means a living being. God breathed oxygen (spirit) into Adam's lifeless body and the oxygen activated Adam's brain and so Adam became a living soul. But when Adam's brain died, Adam ceased to exist.

[DeighAnn]

1 hour ago, GodIsLife said:

I believe in annihilationism. This means I believe that hell is not literally a place where people are tortured forever but that it is eternal annihilation. By eternal annihilation I mean that the devil, demons and godless people will cease to exist when they are thrown into the lake of fire. It's like throwing a piece of paper into the fire. It is consumed by the fire and is no longer there.

There are passages in the Bible that at first glance seem to speak in favor of a hell with literal eternal torture, but I believe that these passages should be understood symbolically or otherwise. Besides, there are many more passages in the Bible that speak for annihilationism. I'll give an example: at the very beginning of the Bible where God warned Adam and said if he sins he will die. God did not say that he would go to a place where he would be tormented forever but just said that he will die if he sins. Death is non-existence. God said to him: From dust you came to dust you will return. God created Adam from nothing and when Adam is dead he is nothing again.

A living soul means a living being. God breathed oxygen (spirit) into Adam's lifeless body and the oxygen activated Adam's brain and so Adam became a living soul. But when Adam's brain died, Adam ceased to exist.

Hello GodisLife, and welcome,

I agree with you but get ready for the ones who seems to be without that sense of pity or mercy.  I myself, do not understand the mindset of those who can equate what a man does or does not do in his less that 120 years on earth living according to the flesh, with 'eternal living torment' in the LOF.

Romans 2 
1 Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. 2But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things. 3 And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God? 4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? 5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; 6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds: 7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: 8But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, 9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: 11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

I only Thank GOD that that is not the measure in which I will be judged, I am sticking with Gods mercy in all ways.


Which verses do you believe speak to death as an ending and not to 'a life eternally lived in the LOF?  
 

[enoob57]

Do you believe the cross was a torturous death?

[GodIsLife]

32 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

Do you believe the cross was a torturous death?

Yes, Jesus was tortured a lot.

[DeighAnn]

47 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

Do you believe the cross was a torturous death?

Absolutely.  And by 'death' do you mean that torture came to an end?  

[GodIsLife]

If the brain is dead a person no longer exists.

[DeighAnn]

5 minutes ago, GodIsLife said:

If the brain is dead a person no longer exists.

It is the 'house' that dies, not the 'being'.  The 'being' has to go on to judgment. 

26 Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. 27 What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops. 28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.  Matt 10
 

[GodIsLife]

4 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

It is the 'house' that dies, not the 'being'.  The 'being' has to go on to judgment. 

26 Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. 27 What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops. 28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.  Matt 10
 

If the brain is dead a person no longer exists. Even Scientists say so. There is no doubt about it.

If your brain is dead you no longer exist. This is proven by science.

Are you a denier of science? Do you believe also in a flat earth?

[DeighAnn]

6 minutes ago, GodIsLife said:

If the brain is dead a person no longer exists. Even Scientists say so. There is no doubt about it.

If your brain is dead you no longer exist. This is proven by science.

Are you a denier of science? Do you believe also in a flat earth?

I believe some science but not all.  

I would agree, ALL the flesh goes back to dust.  Do you believe that is the end?  We are speaking to the words of God, the spiritual things and so we must spiritually discern...

 

19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:

28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.

30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

 

[DeighAnn]

I take everything in the Bible as literal, understanding of course, the figures of speech,  symbolic language employed which is used in an effort to show more of a truth than words alone can.   

And if we don't, take it all literally, then everyone just makes up their own stuff aka filthy rags.  


BUT here's the BEST THING...every knee will bow, LITERALLY.  And since there has not been a single death of both body and soul of any BEING God has created yet, all will soon KNOW the Truth believers and nonbelievers alike.