Beatles Song Imagine Was Sung at President Carter's Funeral?

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11 hours ago, Debp said:

I always was glad Carter confessed to being a Christian.    But I was shocked that he wanted to vote for Kamala since she supports ungodly things.

I wondered if he was so old that he didn't realize she was into the gay and transgender agendas amongst other things.

 

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I have often wondered if he was in his right mind if he said it? After all he was 100!! I almost wonder if someone else was speaking for him and maybe he didn't say it? Yes, it disturbed me when I read that he wanted to live to be able vote for Kamala. It seems a grandson was speaking for him in some of the reports I read. 

[Ray12614]

18 hours ago, Indentured Servant said:

When John Lennon released his solo song, "Imagine," he was a peace advocate. The focus of the song was one of peace, and living for each other.

He chose elements of religious belief, materialism/personal possessions, and governments as examples of the conflicts plaguing the world during the late sixties/early seventies that he felt separated us from one another and were usually found at the center of most conflict in this world.

The basic message of the song wasn't to erase belief in heaven or hell anymore than it advocated the removal of all national borders, or denying people to have personal possessions. 

It was his call to people to take a moment to imagine what we could be if we didn't keep feeding our need to be divisive, superior, or in conflict with each other. He wasn't promoting his atheist beliefs, but only that it is one point of contention between people. 

The song can also be accused of being anti-government, despite its being played at the funeral of a former world leader. 

It's just about fantasizing about peace in a world of conflict; about considering others as brothers/sisters and not as enemies everytime we're in contact with them. 

Carter was a peace advocate. Perhaps whoever selected it for the funeral was probably focused on Carter's dream of world peace. 

I recall hearing the Bette Milder song, "From a Distance" being sung regularly in churches in the 1990's, and being thought of as a Godly song, until you understand the lyrics and realize it talks about God not caring for people who are sick, dying, oppressed; and, that from His point of view everything looks just fine... But only from a distance... (The recording was popular as an accompaniment recording in Christian book stores.)

 

 

Yeah . . . I see what you are saying . . . BUT . . . IF I don't remain alive unto the coming of the Lord . . . I do hope that my funeral has songs of faith, hope, and Jesus centered lyrics. Otherwise I would prefer the 'Hokie Pokie' to an atheist song . . . 

And who knows what might happen to that song being sung at my funeral. . . "I put my right foot out . . . and I shook it all about . . . ." with ladies fainting and men shouting at the sight LOL (sorry . . . but . . .  not that sorry lol).

Ray . .  

 

[Sparks]

This a political song that is directly about Socialism.  I wrote this in another thread about Kamala Harris, but it applies here as well. 

Socialism is a direct replacement for Capitialism, and once you understand that a Socialist has to destroy Capitalism so that they might implement Socialism, it becomes clear what they are doing.  Their bad policy is not a misunderstanding of good policy; they ultimately want 'equality,' for all, by bringing everyone down to the most common denominator; no rich or poor, no countries, no personal property, no religion.  They want to take away things that people tend to fight about until they have world peace.  The lyrics of Imagine by John Lennon illustrate this ultimate desire in song, the biggest problem being you have to crack a few eggs (kill people who disagree) to get your utopia of equality and world peace. 

Imagine

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today... Aha-ah...

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace... You...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world... You...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

[Logostician]

Jimmy Carter was not a good president.  But he was a good Christian man.  This is what he should have been honored for.  Because, in the final analysis, it's the only thing that matters, and the only thing that we take with us from this life.

[nebula]

On 1/11/2025 at 6:22 PM, Debp said:

I always was glad Carter confessed to being a Christian.    But I was shocked that he wanted to vote for Kamala since she supports ungodly things.

I wondered if he was so old that he didn't realize she was into the gay and transgender agendas amongst other things.

After seeing what condition he was in, a lot of us were wondering if he actually said or expressed anything about voting - or if he was even able to.

[nebula]

Back in the 80's I listened to the testimony of a man who was living on the streets the first time he heard this song. When he heard the line:

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can

He laughed. "A man worth millions of dollars is telling me to imagine no possessions!"

[nebula]

On 1/11/2025 at 2:26 PM, Indentured Servant said:

I recall hearing the Bette Milder song, "From a Distance" being sung regularly in churches in the 1990's, and being thought of as a Godly song, until you understand the lyrics and realize it talks about God not caring for people who are sick, dying, oppressed; and, that from His point of view everything looks just fine... But only from a distance... (The recording was popular as an accompaniment recording in Christian book stores.)

It's amazing how few lyrics people actually listen to.

I recall a woman relaying the horror of being asked to sing a certain song at a wedding that everyone believes is a love song. And so, at the wedding, she sang with much embarrassment:

If I should stay
I would only be in your way
So I'll go, but I know
I'll think of you every step of the way

*And then the only line in the song people hear when it's played*

And I will always love you...

[missmuffet]

On 1/11/2025 at 9:07 AM, Ray12614 said:

So the song was sung at an Christian funeral?  Does anyone see an problem with this?

Some of the lyrics are: 'Imagine there’s no heaven; it’s easy if you try' and 'imagine there’s no country; it isn’t hard to do. Nothing to kill or die for, and no religion too.'

It is overtly atheistic in its message. Sure, I like the melody and being a Beatles fan in my youth (before belief in Jesus) I liked that song, but no more. Lyrics mean something, and the message is clear - secular humanism and everything that goes with it . . . 

So some questions are begging to be asked:  Who made the decision approving that song? Did the family know? Most funerals the family decides how best to honor their loved ones who passed on. . . . still . . . this is just plain weird . . . Isn't it?

 

I can see this song being sung at a "Christian" funeral in our world today. Many of those so called "Christians" may think it was ok. Just the sad world we are living in right now.

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The Beetles were used through masonic planning to bring change to the world, popularize esoteric beliefs as was Timothy Leery.

The UnitedNations Lucist Trust is a luciferian organization, masonic driven.

Former president Jimmy Carter was involved with the United Nations.

1+1=2

two wrongs don't make it right

Matthew 6:24-

No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

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in one of Melania Trumps speeches in Trumps first election, they had the song age of Aquarius playing just before her speech.

Just recently at Trumps Maralago party they were playing Trumps favourite song WMCA by the gay band village people. They showed Melania and Trump both  happily jiggling to the song.