Unravelling Revelation

[Locust]

1 hour ago, truth7t7 said:

2 Peter 3:10-11KJV

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

11 seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness

what you are reading is a 

hy·per·bo·le

 

1. exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally:

 

[AdHoc]

13 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

Well, I think I can safely say that there are more views on the Book of Revelation than Carter had liver pills, and everyone seems to hold their view is correct. I am not criticizing anyone; it is just a fact.

I do believe this generation is beginning to see the prelude of Daniel and Revelation prophecy unfolding as fast as our President is making changes. The mosaic of God’s end-time plan and conditions is beginning to come into focus for those watching.

Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

All “these things” Jesus mentions are apparent right now. Exciting times!

On this we can agree. But as if the pot wasn't cooking enough, here is one more.

The Bible uses the word "generation" in its true sense - that which is generated. The nearest it comes to giving the duration of time until the next offspring is perhaps the four generations of Israel that were in Egypt (Gen.15:13). But since David wrote the Psalms, and man's years are three score and ten, this cannot be used.

Added to this if 2o years is the age used of responsibility and used as a reference age then those who were 20 in 1948 would be 75 today. Many would have passed on a nd so "this generation" as t pertains to age is an invalid argument.

Much more should we  use "generation" as the Lord did. That is, what was generated. This is not left up to men to decide. The context was a discourse with the Pharisees and our Lord Jesus called then " an evil and adulterous GENERATION OF VIPERS". This "generation" our Lord traces back to the murder of Abel, and He traces it forward to the Beast.

It is NOT  men of  a certain age that "will not pass", BUT "men with the serpentine nature":

[Dennis1209]

35 minutes ago, AdHoc said:

On this we can agree. But as if the pot wasn't cooking enough, here is one more.

The Bible uses the word "generation" in its true sense - that which is generated. The nearest it comes to giving the duration of time until the next offspring is perhaps the four generations of Israel that were in Egypt (Gen.15:13). But since David wrote the Psalms, and man's years are three score and ten, this cannot be used.

Added to this if 2o years is the age used of responsibility and used as a reference age then those who were 20 in 1948 would be 75 today. Many would have passed on a nd so "this generation" as t pertains to age is an invalid argument.

Much more should we  use "generation" as the Lord did. That is, what was generated. This is not left up to men to decide. The context was a discourse with the Pharisees and our Lord Jesus called then " an evil and adulterous GENERATION OF VIPERS". This "generation" our Lord traces back to the murder of Abel, and He traces it forward to the Beast.

It is NOT  men of  a certain age that "will not pass", BUT "men with the serpentine nature":

What we in America refer to as the greatest generation, the WW II soldiers and that generation are fading rapidly, yet some remain until the very last one. It is not preposterous to surmise it could be as late as the last survivor of that generation.

Naturally, I cannot prove it, but I have an inkling that Psalm 90:10 applies to Israel’s rebirth on May 14, 1948, the generation that witnesses that rebirth shall not pass. I am not dogmatic or adamant about it, but events to come are now moving at the speed of light.

Time marches forward, and today, we are one day closer to the Lord’s return. I think we can agree on that. 

[truth7t7]

1 hour ago, Dennis1209 said:

What we in America refer to as the greatest generation, the WW II soldiers and that generation are fading rapidly, yet some remain until the very last one. It is not preposterous to surmise it could be as late as the last survivor of that generation.

Naturally, I cannot prove it, but I have an inkling that Psalm 90:10 applies to Israel’s rebirth on May 14, 1948, the generation that witnesses that rebirth shall not pass. I am not dogmatic or adamant about it, but events to come are now moving at the speed of light.

Time marches forward, and today, we are one day closer to the Lord’s return. I think we can agree on that. 

Matthew Chapter 24 is very detailed in answering the question below, signs to be seen that will precede the second coming and end of this world, it's that simple

It's "This Generation" that will not pass, the one that will be eye witnesses of Daniel's Abomination of Desolation and The Great Tribulation that will be worse than World War II that claimed 75 million lives 25 million military and 50 million civilians, with 6 million Jews in that number, a "Future" event unfulfilled

Revelation Chapter 13 goes into great detail in showing events that will take place exposing the "Future" human man known as the (Little Horn) (Man Of Sin) (The Beast)

Matthew 24:3KJV

3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Edited February 28 by truth7t7

[Dennis1209]

2 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Matthew Chapter 24 is very detailed in answering the question below, signs to be seen that will precede the second coming and end of this world, it's that simple

It's "This Generation" that will not pass, the one that will be eye witnesses of Daniel's Abomination of Desolation and The Great Tribulation that will be worse than World War II that claimed 75 million lives 25 million military and 50 million civilians, with 6 million Jews in that number, a "Future" event unfulfilled

Revelation Chapter 13 goes into great detail in showing events that will take place exposing the "Future" human man known as the (Little Horn) (Man Of Sin) (The Beast)

Matthew 24:3KJV

3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Time may prove me wrong, but that is my current view. 

[Marilyn C]

5 hours ago, AdHoc said:

On this we can agree. But as if the pot wasn't cooking enough, here is one more.

The Bible uses the word "generation" in its true sense - that which is generated. The nearest it comes to giving the duration of time until the next offspring is perhaps the four generations of Israel that were in Egypt (Gen.15:13). But since David wrote the Psalms, and man's years are three score and ten, this cannot be used.

Added to this if 2o years is the age used of responsibility and used as a reference age then those who were 20 in 1948 would be 75 today. Many would have passed on a nd so "this generation" as t pertains to age is an invalid argument.

Much more should we  use "generation" as the Lord did. That is, what was generated. This is not left up to men to decide. The context was a discourse with the Pharisees and our Lord Jesus called then " an evil and adulterous GENERATION OF VIPERS". This "generation" our Lord traces back to the murder of Abel, and He traces it forward to the Beast.

It is NOT  men of  a certain age that "will not pass", BUT "men with the serpentine nature":

I was born in 1947 and am 77 today. So would you like to do your maths again.

`those who were 20 in 1948 would be 75 today.`

[Marilyn C]

16 hours ago, Locust said:

what you are reading is a 

hy·per·bo·le

 

1. exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally:

 

Actually, at the end of the Day of the Lord (Day - period of time) then God will roll up this universe as a scroll, burning it etc. 

[Locust]

11 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

according to that he is here now

[Locust]

8 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Actually, at the end of the Day of the Lord (Day - period of time) then God will roll up this universe as a scroll, burning it etc. 

 

Romans 11:36

 

New International Version

 

 

^36'' For from him and through him and for him are all things.
    To him be the glory forever! Amen.''

forever is a very long time

[AdHoc]

20 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Matthew Chapter 24 is very detailed in answering the question below, signs to be seen that will precede the second coming and end of this world, it's that simple

It's "This Generation" that will not pass, the one that will be eye witnesses of Daniel's Abomination of Desolation and The Great Tribulation that will be worse than World War II that claimed 75 million lives 25 million military and 50 million civilians, with 6 million Jews in that number, a "Future" event unfulfilled

Revelation Chapter 13 goes into great detail in showing events that will take place exposing the "Future" human man known as the (Little Horn) (Man Of Sin) (The Beast)

Matthew 24:3KJV

3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

 

17 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

Time may prove me wrong, but that is my current view. 

All I can say is that in simple grammar "this generation" means the present one. If you were prophesying about a future event, you would say "THAT generation".

But if you were to take my proposed meaning of "generation" you would be able to say "this generation" for Cain and Abel. So let' see what the context is. It reads; 

Matthew 23:35–39
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. 36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation. 37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

The context is the period of time from Cain's murder of Abel till they see Jesus coming. The "GENERATION" is the one with a viper's nature.

If you still disagree then you make our Lord to propose that innocents pay for murderers.

And the argument that it is the generation that sees the Abomination of Desolation, why, no "generation" is mentioned. The Lord's warning is to those "who see" it. This might mean, to the modern technical mind, the whole world via TV. But the Lord only means "those in Judea". No doubt the wrath of God will reach New York and Tokyo in hours, but it is those in the vicinity of the Temple who must not even take time to get their coats - not a "generation".