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1 minute ago, truth7t7 said:

God doesn't live within all human beings, and a pre-trib rapture that you suggest doesn't exist in scripture 

Just for one example the Bible teaches in several places those possessed with devils, God doesn't live in them, satans kingdom of darkness does

If you wish to believe in some sort of pre destination scenario where some people are pre destined without God to hell that is up to you; but I believe that the Lord gives everyone the choice of what they will choose to believe, and thus everyone, has the kingdom of heaven within them currently.

You are also claiming (accusing me) that I advocate a pre-trib rapture, which I do not.

 


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9 minutes ago, luigi said:

If you wish to believe in some sort of pre destination scenario where some people are pre destined without God to hell that is up to you; but I believe that the Lord gives everyone the choice of what they will choose to believe, and thus everyone, has the kingdom of heaven within them currently.

You are also claiming (accusing me) that I advocate a pre-trib rapture, which I do not.

 

Did you mean to type this?


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21 minutes ago, Alive said:

Did you mean to type this?

If you are referring to predestination; I do not believe in predestination without it being ones choice while they are in their bodies. The Lord saw beforehand what everyone will choose for themselves to believe in, and thus act according to their beliefs. Thereby, the Lord knows (and saw) where everyone will go. It is predestination, but it is by ones choice while in the body.


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2 minutes ago, luigi said:

If you are referring to predestination; I do not believe in predestination without it being ones choice while they are in their bodies. The Lord saw beforehand what everyone will choose for themselves to believe in, and thus act according to their beliefs. Thereby, the Lord knows (and saw) where everyone will go. It is predestination, but it is by ones choice while in the body.

No. Not what I meant. I meant the statement of yours I bolded and underlined.


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10 minutes ago, Alive said:

No. Not what I meant. I meant the statement of yours I bolded and underlined.

The Lord states that the kingdom of God is within us (Luke 17:20-21). And as the kingdom of God is the kingdom of heaven--then yes, the kingdom of God is within everyone.

Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.


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14 minutes ago, luigi said:

The Lord states that the kingdom of God is within us (Luke 17:20-21). And as the kingdom of God is the kingdom of heaven--then yes, the kingdom of God is within everyone.

Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

If you don't mind my additional question...do you take that to mean that the kingdom of God is literally inside every person?


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1 minute ago, Alive said:

If you don't mind my additional question...do you take that to mean that the kingdom of God is literally inside every person?

God is love according to 1 John 4:8 & 16. Everyone today, God has given the capacity to love others. Yes, God/Love is literally inside every person currently. And as I stated a few posts earlier; this inclusion of God in everyone is not going to last forever. There is going to be a big split up, where when the Lord/Love returns as a thief, He/love will then remove Himself from the unjust who did not love their neighbor while they had the capacity to do so, but instead chose the god/love of this world. The unjust will then be in darkness while the faithful in love will be greatly illumined (Isaiah 60:1-3).

1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

1 john 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

Isaiah 60:1 Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee. 2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the Lord shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee. 3 And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.


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4 minutes ago, luigi said:

God is love according to 1 John 4:8 & 16. Everyone today, God has given the capacity to love others. Yes, God/Love is literally inside every person currently. And as I stated a few posts earlier; this inclusion of God in everyone is not going to last forever. There is going to be a big split up, where when the Lord/Love returns as a thief, He/love will then remove Himself from the unjust who did not love their neighbor while they had the capacity to do so, but instead chose the god/love of this world. The unjust will then be in darkness while the faithful in love will be greatly illumined (Isaiah 60:1-3).

1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

1 john 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

Isaiah 60:1 Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee. 2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the Lord shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee. 3 And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.

Thank you for answering. It's interesting that you answered with God/love rather than His Kingdom. Why?


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Just now, Alive said:

Thank you for answering. It's interesting that you answered with God/love rather than His Kingdom. Why?

Gods kingdom is of Love. How do you not know this?


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2 minutes ago, luigi said:

Gods kingdom is of Love. How do you not know this?

A Kingdom is defined by the 'authority' that rules---love may be evident there, but that love is not the Kingdom. For clarity the word kingdom could be replaced with 'reign''. If this is accurate then you are stating that God 'reigns' inside every person.

Do you see where this leads us?

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