Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth

[Alive]

2 minutes ago, In1 said:

The Bible is 66 books, the third six ... well ...

God is perfect, the law of the Lord is perfect, we are perfected in one, but the Bible does not say that the whole book is perfect ...

"Now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord: yet I give my judgment ... "

The word/language of God is not contained in one book, it is all around us ...

 

If you read the Worthy statement of faith, you find that we believe the scriptures to be inerrant.

[In1]

21 minutes ago, Alive said:

If you read the Worthy statement of faith, you find that we believe the scriptures to be inerrant.

Well I don't believe their errant ... I believe what is inerrant is man.

But it still remains that the Bible doesn't call itself perfect ...

Edited May 26 by In1
Forgot to take the in out :)

[truth7t7]

1 hour ago, In1 said:

Well I don't believe their errant ... I believe what is inerrant is man.

But it still remains that the Bible doesn't call itself perfect ...

Psalm 12:6-7KJV

6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

7 Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

2 Timothy 3:16-17KJV

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

Edited May 26 by truth7t7

[In1]

1 hour ago, truth7t7 said:

Psalm 12:6-7KJV

6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

7 Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

2 Timothy 3:16-17KJV

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

Pure is an apt definition of his word, law or anything else that has ever proceeded out of the mouth of God, but perfect, in the sense the Bible uses the word  ... with a man of God yes ... the word tries us until it comes forth in our life (all outward circumstances irrelevant), though I doubt Paul ever referred to his letters when talking to people as part of all Scripture ... though Paul did say the world would be judged by his gospel ... but to him, that was like saying they will be judged by the way I live my life.

[Your closest friendnt]

11 hours ago, In1 said:

The Bible is 66 books, the third six ... well ...

God is perfect, the law of the Lord is perfect, we are perfected in one, but the Bible does not say that the whole book is perfect ...

"Now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord: yet I give my judgment ... "

The word/language of God is not contained in one book, it is all around us ...

 

The Christian Bible is not one book.

It consists of the Jewish Bible. And the New Testament as it is. And their many subbooks. Certainly you know that. 

Paul may have never read the books of other disciples and definitely not the book of Revelation at the time when he wrote to Timothy that all scripture are good for wrigheousness and holy living referring to the ethical parts of the scriptures. Paul did not include circumcision and the teachings in the Old Testament about forgiveness of sins and the separation of Jews and Gentiles. This is obvious. When Paul said that he was referring to the scriptures for righteousness and love one another in the New Covenant. Not in the examples in the Sinai Covenant and the examples in the Covenant of Cirumcision and definitely he did not endorse the acts of the twelve Tribal Patriarchs. Paul never said that he endorse wrightings that he never read. But we have the decisions of Synods who did. But still some institutions have more books.

But the point is that this ministry it endorses the 66 books in the bible. The discussion should be about the 66 books. And the point about Paul saying that this is his instructions is very wise. Because people have ever-changing customs and cultures and at that time the Gospel was p

Yes God had a part in many of the books and it is specifically pointed out the words that belong to Him. 

And the words of his Prophets which were towards his people of the time and towards some other Nations. 

We have the words of the historians and those who were assigned to follow the Kings and record what happened and definitely did not record everything said or done and not as eye witness. 

But from the reports of others.

But this is the point for Christian Ministries they are not going to revise it and they see fit. This is what they have and are going to read from. This is the point and in the context it includes enough to tell who spoke the words that are recorded in the specific part in the specific place in the Christian Bible. Example is like those are the words recorded in this book and in this chapter and verse and in this bible version.

And while this is a fact because we can find these words in the bible and yet it does not make them the words of God by default. And if they were the words of God in the Old Testament, we will be told to whom they were spoken and when. And the proposed they were spoken and to whom they applied. Then we study to rightly divide the times and the seasons they were spoken and if they are bind upon us as they did bind upon the people they were spoken to at that time. 

Each situation has to be individually study. Re: those are the words of this person and who is this person we will be able to know from what it is written in the Bible or we may need to have the assistance of outside sources. And many Bible teachers they do that. 

In the bible we have the words of the False teachers and we must as to learn the false teachings against Jesus Christ at the time Jesus lived and during the times of his disciples. And definitely there are other false teachings and we should know how to identify them against the Gospel of Jesus Christ, even from the testimony from other believers which are not written in the Bible but in the doctrinal books of some religions Christian organizations. And the teachings of their teachers. 

The point is that while people are ready to defend something in the bible at the same time they do not follow everything written in the bible and they use parts of the Bible in their defense. 

Like in the book of Jude. They say that the disciple quoted from a book that is excluded from the 66 books of the Bible but part of another book that was considered but not included in the Bible. 

Still the words of Jesus Christ and his works are  recorded in the Christian part of the Bible and not in the Jewish Bible but the prophetic about him is found in the volume of the books in the Old Testament. 

Which we inherited from the Jewish people and the disciples had the Holy Spirit to help them to learn to discern. At the beginning they Preached the Gospel to the Jews in Jerusalem who had consent to Jesus Christ crusifiction as most of them sided with their Leaders and they Preached the Gospel as they did to complement their understanding and how to accept it according to what understand. Who were people under the law.

If they would get everything right from the beginning they would not need the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of TRUTH and his help to discern and grow into the truth. And that is reflected in their teachings. As the Holy Spirit quided them specifically to Peter and established a new way to preach the Gospel and he Preached the Gospel to uncircumcised Romans who remained Romans and as they were unbaptized Jesus Christ gave his testimony that He accepts their faith in Him by forgiving their sins in the same way as he did with the Jews who believed in him while circumcised and been ceremonially clean and who came from the law. From having their sins forgiven with the Atonements of the law. 

Who realized that the Sinai Covenant was set aside and were found to be in their sins. 

The Catholic Church did exocommunicate people and used it as an excuse to exocommunicate Luther and all his followers. But they were not exocomunicated by Jesus Christ who quided Luther in his descent from the horrific Catholic teachings of that time.  

Let's keep in mind that there is a list of words not swearing words but words such as "virgin" that can get a recognition by the ministry and record a warning point to someone's profile and be view as a personal attack. Please refrain for using this word as it is their prerogative to do so. And  not to get warning points in your profile. 

They do not inform the members from the beginning. They do not disclose it in advance but whether it is fair or just is another question but they still believe it is their prerogative to do that. 

 

Edited May 27 by Your closest friendnt

[In1]

11 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

The Christian Bible is not one book.

It consists of the Jewish Bible. And the New Testament as it is. And their many subbooks. Certainly you know that. 

Paul may have never read the books of other disciples and definitely not the book of Revelation at the time when he wrote to Timothy that all scripture are good for wrigheousness and holy living referring to the ethical parts of the scriptures. Paul did not include circumcision and the teachings in the Old Testament about forgiveness of sins and the separation of Jews and Gentiles. This is obvious. When Paul said that he was referring to the scriptures for righteousness and love one another in the New Covenant. Not in the examples in the Sinai Covenant and the examples in the Covenant of Cirumcision and definitely he did not endorse the acts of the twelve Tribal Patriarchs. Paul never said that he endorse wrightings that he never read. But we have the decisions of Synods who did. But still some institutions have more books.

But the point is that this ministry it endorses the 66 books in the bible. The discussion should be about the 66 books. And the point about Paul saying that this is his instructions is very wise. Because people have ever-changing customs and cultures and at that time the Gospel was p

Yes God had a part in many of the books and it is specifically pointed out the words that belong to Him. 

And the words of his Prophets which were towards his people of the time and towards some other Nations. 

We have the words of the historians and those who were assigned to follow the Kings and record what happened and definitely did not record everything said or done and not as eye witness. 

But from the reports of others.

But this is the point for Christian Ministries they are not going to revise it and they see fit. This is what they have and are going to read from. This is the point and in the context it includes enough to tell who spoke the words that are recorded in the specific part in the specific place in the Christian Bible. Example is like those are the words recorded in this book and in this chapter and verse and in this bible version.

And while this is a fact because we can find these words in the bible and yet it does not make them the words of God by default. And if they were the words of God in the Old Testament, we will be told to whom they were spoken and when. And the proposed they were spoken and to whom they applied. Then we study to rightly divide the times and the seasons they were spoken and if they are bind upon us as they did bind upon the people they were spoken to at that time. 

Each situation has to be individually study. Re: those are the words of this person and who is this person we will be able to know from what it is written in the Bible or we may need to have the assistance of outside sources. And many Bible teachers they do that. 

In the bible we have the words of the False teachers and we must as to learn the false teachings against Jesus Christ at the time Jesus lived and during the times of his disciples. And definitely there are other false teachings and we should know how to identify them against the Gospel of Jesus Christ, even from the testimony from other believers which are not written in the Bible but in the doctrinal books of some religions Christian organizations. And the teachings of their teachers. 

The point is that while people are ready to defend something in the bible at the same time they do not follow everything written in the bible and they use parts of the Bible in their defense. 

Like in the book of Jude. They say that the disciple quoted from a book that is excluded from the 66 books of the Bible but part of another book that was considered but not included in the Bible. 

Still the words of Jesus Christ and his works are  recorded in the Christian part of the Bible and not in the Jewish Bible but the prophetic about him is found in the volume of the books in the Old Testament. 

Which we inherited from the Jewish people and the disciples had the Holy Spirit to help them to learn to discern. At the beginning they Preached the Gospel to the Jews in Jerusalem who had consent to Jesus Christ crusifiction as most of them sided with their Leaders and they Preached the Gospel as they did to complement their understanding and how to accept it according to what understand. Who were people under the law.

If they would get everything right from the beginning they would not need the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of TRUTH and his help to discern and grow into the truth. And that is reflected in their teachings. As the Holy Spirit quided them specifically to Peter and established a new way to preach the Gospel and he Preached the Gospel to uncircumcised Romans who remained Romans and as they were unbaptized Jesus Christ gave his testimony that He accepts their faith in Him by forgiving their sins in the same way as he did with the Jews who believed in him while circumcised and been ceremonially clean and who came from the law. From having their sins forgiven with the Atonements of the law. 

Who realized that the Sinai Covenant was set aside and were found to be in their sins. 

The Catholic Church did exocommunicate people and used it as an excuse to exocommunicate Luther and all his followers. But they were not exocomunicated by Jesus Christ who quided Luther in his descent from the horrific Catholic teachings of that time.  

Let's keep in mind that there is a list of words not swearing words but words such as "virgin" that can get a recognition by the ministry and record a warning point to someone's profile and be view as a personal attack. Please refrain for using this word as it is their prerogative to do so. And  not to get warning points in your profile. 

They do not inform the members from the beginning. They do not disclose it in advance but whether it is fair or just is another question but they still believe it is their prerogative to do that. 

 

The 666 things was just a pun ... I remember when people went around saying Gorbachev was the antichrist because of the birh mark he had on his head ... and for the most part they were sincere ... but sincerely wrong ...

[Your closest friendnt]

54 minutes ago, In1 said:

The 666 things was just a pun ... I remember when people went around saying Gorbachev was the antichrist because of the birh mark he had on his head ... and for the most part they were sincere ... but sincerely wrong ...

The mark is not something visible. Like what a mark has to do with that?

The Mark of the Antichrist is like the Mark of the Christ. 

The people of Christ who represent him with the things they say about Jesus Christ. And the opposite is for those who speak as representatives of the Antichrist. Certainly they thing and contemplate and weight what to say to have an impact. 

This is the mark on their head. 

To understand the mark on their hands are the doers. Those who persecute the believers of Jesus Christ. 

And the mark on their feet are those who run to do the will of the Antichrist and act as his messengers. 

Edited May 27 by Your closest friendnt

[In1]

2 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

The mark is not something visible. Like what a mark has to do with that?

The Mark of the Antichrist is like the Mark of the Christ. 

The people of Christ who represent him with the things they say about Jesus Christ. And the opposite is for those who speak as representatives of the Antichrist. Certainly they thing and contemplate and weight what to say to have an impact. 

This is the mark on their head. 

To understand the mark on their hands are the doers. Those who persecute the believers of Jesus Christ. 

And the mark on their feet are those who run to do the will of the Antichrist and act as his messengers. 

Yup, like the mark of Cain it represents a spiritual, or applicable truth (both indivdually and collectively) ... in this case servitude, like the first Adam, who tilled the ground from whence he came, which itself likewise is a applicable truth, and is realtive to everyone's soul, as much as a wilderness, a garden or wandering in field ...

And what would a man give for his soul, why his soul of course; pick up you cross in a nut shell ...

Edited May 27 by In1

[DeighAnn]

On 5/21/2025 at 5:11 PM, truth7t7 said:

Romans 2:11-16KJV

11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;

13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)

16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

To which 'death', 1st or 2nd death?  

[Montana Marv]

On 3/7/2025 at 3:48 PM, Luther said:

God has not made other plans for any other kingdom with any other people but His own. What's the point? To show patience and mercy to Israel? He's been there, done that. It's the time of the new Covenant, which is the only covenant God honors ( Sometimes I really can't believe I have to say the obvious). 

Tunnel vision will get one no where.

God honors all Covenants which he makes with man.  Old Covenant, New Covenant

The Abrahamic Covenant;  A People (Israel),  A Land (the Promise Land or Israel), and a blessing which is Jesus Christ.

Ezk 43:7 - He said, son of man, this is the place of my throne, and the place for the soles of my feet, This is where I will live among the Israelite's forever.  Millennial Kingdom.

Daniel 12 : 11 - 13 ........   As for you (Daniel), go your way till the end, you will rest, then at the end of the days you will rise to receive your allotted inheritance.  Which is his part of the Abrahamic Covenant, the Land.

Zech 14 ---  On that day his feet will stand on the Mt of Olives;  On that day there will be no light, cold or frost;  On that day living water will out from Jerusalem; The Lord will be King over the whole earth,  On that day there will be one Lord, and his name the only name;  The survivors from all the nations which attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year, to worship the King, the Lord God Almighty, and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles.

In Christ

Montana Marv