Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth

[Your closest friendnt]

2 hours ago, Luther said:

I don't agree. How else were their sins forgiven? There's only One Name you know.

This a good question for discussion. 

It's not only about Moses and the Sinai Covenant and the Priesthood and the Tabernacle of the Testimony where they began to be judged by the Law of Moses. 

And the Lord began to count their sins against them and put in place a way to forgive their sins by the yearly Atonement and the individual Atonement through out the year. 

The forgiveness of sins began with the giving of the Law of Moses and the book of Leviticus and their purification ceremonies. 

Edited May 29 by Your closest friendnt

[Montana Marv]

1 hour ago, WilliamL said:

...but we are given a prophetic description of the general time.

How you doing.  I took about an 18 month or more sabbatical from posting.  Not much has changed on the forums.  Most everyone's view is still intact.

But my position is; when will the last person (Jew or Gentile) be invited into the Church or Bride before it is complete.  Only God the Father knows, for He draws individuals to His Son.

In the past all had a chance, one group to be an OT saint, then only those of Israel had a chance to be an OT saint; now both Jew and Gentile have a chance to be part of the Bride, not inclusive of those before the Resurrection.  Once this (age of Grace/Holy Spirit filled) window closes, the spot light goes back all who remain on earth to be Justified or not.

I'm watching the Hamas in Gaza; if they are rooted out, then there can be a transformation to the environment described in Ezk 38:7-11.  A country without walls and gates, they live in safety, no enemy within.

In Christ

Montana Marv

As I remember you and dougg are a tad older than I am.

 

[Your closest friendnt]

@Luther 

What about Abraham their Patriarch and His chosen children Isaac and Jacob and the twelve Patriarchs and the Nation of Israel before the Law was given.

And we also have to consider the people of God from Adam to Noah and from Noah to Abraham. Now we cover everyone till the time of Jesus Christ. And the Cross of Jesus Christ. 

We need to look to their inheritance after they died. 

We know from scripture that the Jews believed that their inheritance after death it was with Abraham and they were set apart from the dead of the rest of the world. And we also know and no one can dispute that Abraham's inheritance after death was in the place of the dead but apart from the dead of the rest of the world because they continiun to be God's people after their death. The LORD CONTINUED TO BE THEIR GOD and the God of the dead had nothing to do with them. 

The Lord said to Abraham that you will die at a good old age (God was telling him that he will not die a violent death or by the hands of his enemies) The Lord also told him that he will be Gathered to his Ancestors. So we Know about the inheritance of the People of God and Abraham and his children after their death. At the time of their death till the death and the resurrection of Jesus Christ when God gave Jesus Christ the Heaven as his inheritance and the New inheritance for mankind was established in Jesus Christ. 

[truth7t7]

3 hours ago, Luther said:

(because I believe that what God wants in His Holy Book is what's there, in the KJV in particular) but it doesn't seem to bring forth God's glory or preeminence in any way. The fact that His name or any reference to Him is not found is peculiar, to say the least. Can you name the book?

I dont have a clue what your talking about?

[Your closest friendnt]

@Luther

Jesus Christ said: that Abraham knows my day and he rejoiced.  

Certainly that shows that Abraham knew of the day of when Jesus Christ will descend down to them to where they were and included unto himself to give them of his Eternal Life and heirs together with Jesus Christ of the Heavenly Inheritance. 

Abraham and John the Baptist and all God's people who were with him from the beginning of the world knew something the disciples of Jesus Christ and the other Jews did not understand that the only way for the Messiah to descend to them it was only for him to die first because anyone one of them had to die first. And they had John the Baptist who had the mission to go before the Lord and announced his coming. We may say and with confidence that the only people who eagerly were waiting for the time the Messiah of God Jesus Christ to die were Abraham and all God's people who were with him. 

Jesus said all the people God has just before he died God has given them to me in reference to all of the people of God who were with Abraham. JESUS CHRIST THE LIFE GIVING SPIRIT. THE LIFE AND the WAY TO HEAVEN. THE DOOR TO HEAVEN. 

Edited May 29 by Your closest friendnt

[Luther]

13 hours ago, timf said:

This is straight from AI :

This seems to be said with the reverence one might expect for the bible. It is scary how many are turning to AI instead of the bible or AI to explain the bible.

I use AI to quickly post information. But of course you have to agree with and understand what you are posting.

[Luther]

36 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

@Luther 

What about Abraham their Patriarch and His chosen children Isaac and Jacob and the twelve Patriarchs and the Nation of Israel before the Law was given.

And we also have to consider the people of God from Adam to Noah and from Noah to Abraham. Now we cover everyone till the time of Jesus Christ. And the Cross of Jesus Christ. 

We need to look to their inheritance after they died. 

We know from scripture that the Jews believed that their inheritance after death it was with Abraham and they were set apart from the dead of the rest of the world. And we also know and no one can dispute that Abraham's inheritance after death was in the place of the dead but apart from the dead of the rest of the world because they continiun to be God's people after their death. The LORD CONTINUED TO BE THEIR GOD and the God of the dead had nothing to do with them. 

The Lord said to Abraham that you will die at a good old age (God was telling him that he will not die a violent death or by the hands of his enemies) The Lord also told him that he will be Gathered to his Ancestors. So we Know about the inheritance of the People of God and Abraham and his children after their death. At the time of their death till the death and the resurrection of Jesus Christ when God gave Jesus Christ the Heaven as his inheritance and the New inheritance for mankind was established in Jesus Christ. 

All of us believers, OT- NT, are looking for and will receive the same promise, the eternal land of Canaan, a.k.a. the kingdom of Heaven.

Hebrews 11:1,8-10,16 KJV
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

( Christ is the substance of things hoped for)

[8] By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. 

[9] By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: 

[10] For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

[16] But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

Brother, we're all sojourners in this world. And for all of us our salvation will be complete at the last day.

[Luther]

29 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

I dont have a clue what your talking about?

I'm simply saying that there's a book in the Bible that doesn't mention the name of God or anything to do with him. Do you know the book.

[Luther]

2 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

@Luther

Jesus Christ said: that Abraham knows my day and he rejoiced.  

Certainly that shows that Abraham knew of the day of when Jesus Christ will descend down to them to where they were and included unto himself to give them of his Eternal Life and heirs together with Jesus Christ of the Heavenly Inheritance. 

Abraham and John the Baptist and all God's people who were with him from the beginning of the world knew something the disciples of Jesus Christ and the other Jews did not understand that the only way for the Messiah to descend to them it was only for him to die first because anyone one of them had to die first. And they had John the Baptist who had the mission to go before the Lord and announced his coming. We may say and with confidence that the only people who eagerly were waiting for the time the Messiah of God Jesus Christ to die were Abraham and all God's people who were with him. 

Jesus said all the people God has just before he died God has given them to me in reference to all of the people of God who were with Abraham. JESUS CHRIST THE LIFE GIVING SPIRIT. THE LIFE AND the WAY TO HEAVEN. THE DOOR TO HEAVEN. 

You said: "Certainly that shows that Abraham knew of the day of when Jesus Christ will descend down to them to where they were and included unto himself to give them of his Eternal Life and heirs together with Jesus Christ of the Heavenly Inheritance."

I don't know . All I know is about Abraham's relationship with God is that he believed in him, and he knew that God was going to provide him and his seed with an eternal place of glory.

I did not think of the specifics of it like you did. I do know that Jesus made payment for sin from the foundation of the world so the sins of his people before the cross could be paid for.

Revelation 13:8 KJV
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Hebrews 4:3 KJV
For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

[kwikphilly]

7 hours ago, Luther said:

With the correct hermeneutic everything fits together very consistently.

The book of Ezekiel is not very straightforward in its language. Take those "wheels" in chapter 1 for example.

I really have to devote more time in this book. Always seem to be in Isaiah. If I can have a " favorite" book in the Bible, it would be Isaiah for sure. 

There is a book that I have some concerns about. Not that it shouldn't be in the Bible (because I believe that what God wants in His Holy Book is what's there, in the KJV in particular) but it doesn't seem to bring forth God's glory or preeminence in any way. The fact that His name or any reference to Him is not found is peculiar, to say the least. Can you name the book?

You must be referencing the Book of Ruth as it is very apparent and unique in that way - what made you bring it up?

Blessings,Kwik