Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth

[truth7t7]

4 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

And Rev 20 mentions 1000 years 6 times.  Bound, Ended, Reigned, Ended, Reign, Over

In Christ

Montana Marv

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?

2.) Physical Earthly Throne?

3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV

8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV

1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

[Montana Marv]

7 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

2 Peter 3:8KJV

8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day

This verse is a get out of jail free card for many.

Take this analogy, by your belief. Creation took 6,000 years and then God rested for 1000 years.  Swing it the other way and 1,000 years then does not exist in Rev 20.  Both analogy's take this verse out of context.

What did Satan say in the Garden?  "Did God really say"  Doubt

Now in the same way many use this same line without knowing.  Did God really say in Rev 20 that Satan was to be bound for 1000 years, did God really say that at the end of the 1000 years that Satan would be loosed for a short time.  Did God really say that many will reign with him for 1000 years. Did God really say that after the 1000 years were over and at the end of the 1000 years.  Did God really say "Thou shall not eat of this tree"

Yes, 2 Peter 3:8 can be used to sow doubt in Scripture.  A get out of jail free card.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[Montana Marv]

A better parallel of 2 Peter 3:8 true meaning would be "Before Abraham was 'I AM'"

In Christ

Montana Marv 

[Alive]

I suggest a good study to make is regarding the two ages. This current age and the age to come. Read through the scriptures and list the characteristics of each. Start with what Jesus said here:

Luke 20:34 (NAS20S)   Jesus said to them, “The sons of this age marry and the women are given in marriage, 35 but those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage;

[In1]

On 6/3/2025 at 12:59 PM, Montana Marv said:

Looks like there are swords and spears in your New Heaven and New Earth.  What gives.  They will be transformed for agriculture use.  Is that your objective in Eternity, be a farmer.

In Christ

Montana Marv

Spiritually speaking ...

"And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it."

"I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman."

"Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener ..."

 

[Montana Marv]

13 minutes ago, In1 said:

Spiritually speaking ...

"And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it."

"I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman."

"Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener ..."

 

Yes, but when does this event of transforming weapons of war into agricultural tools  happen.  Can't be in the New Heaven or on the New Earth, for everything is new, old things are gone.  Must be during the 1000 reign of Christ here on earth.  When rain comes, crops flourish;  When rain is denied, crops fail. Zech 14:16-19

In Christ

Montana Marv

[Your closest friendnt]

1 hour ago, Montana Marv said:

Yes, but when does this event of transforming weapons of war into agricultural tools  happen.  Can't be in the New Heaven or on the New Earth, for everything is new, old things are gone.  Must be during the 1000 reign of Christ here on earth.  When rain comes, crops flourish;  When rain is denied, crops fail. Zech 14:16-19

In Christ

Montana Marv

It happened and is happening in the New Covenant. 

 

2 hours ago, Alive said:

I suggest a good study to make is regarding the two ages. This current age and the age to come. Read through the scriptures and list the characteristics of each. Start with what Jesus said here:

Luke 20:34 (NAS20S)   Jesus said to them, “The sons of this age marry and the women are given in marriage, 35 but those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage;

Verse 34 in this context Jesus is speaking to the Jews and to his disciples and everyone who was there. To the Jews before they died. But it was also the same for the rest of the world. In this life people can multiply. Women give birth. And we know that seizes after we die because people are in the spiritual form. Non in earthly material. 

In verse 35 Jesus is not referring to the life after  death in General but to the Life after death for a very specific group of people. 

Jesus is referring to the children of the resurrection. To the children who are in Jesus Christ, about the people who will believe in him when the Gospel will be preached to them after the Cross and the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

It's a future reference when the believers in him will die and wellecome by him and when the are in their Heavenly body. Which has no earthly material at all.

Jesus is telling that at that time they will be like Angels who do not multiply and they also will not multiply. That there is not multiplication, and many other things as they were in the Earthy life before they die.

Jesus specifically points to his believers after their death who are in their New Heavenly bodies. 

Because some of them were teaching some things to the contrary. No multiplication for the people of God in their Heavenly bodies. The point is that they are not earthly anymore and are not connected to the earthly matters as they were before they died. Their abode is Heavenly as they are Heavenly beings. They are like the Angels. Can the Angels come and leave on the earth like earthly beings when are not earthly? Do they need a home to protect them from the Earthy elements? From cold and heat and wind and hunger and to they need to have a wardrobe and furniture to secure their belongings to they carry suitcases with them or travel by train? And who is going to be the contactor and the rest of the staff. And traveling from where and to where? 

Can people in their Heavenly bodies live on earth? Can we have a mixed population living together on earth? 

[Your closest friendnt]

Jesus specifically said that where I am you will be speaking to his disciples who were representing the believers in Him, the believers in Jesus Christ. 

[Montana Marv]

17 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

It happened and is happening in the New Covenant.

Odd, there are still weapons of war out there.  There is no peace here on earth.  The wolf will live with the lamb, the leopard will lie down with the goat, the calf and lion and yearling together; a little child will lead them.  The cow will feed with the bear, their young will lie down together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox.  Isa 11:6,7

This is the time frame when the weapons of war are transformed into tools for agriculture.  The 1000 year reign of Christ.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[Your closest friendnt]

1 hour ago, Montana Marv said:

Odd, there are still weapons of war out there.  There is no peace here on earth.  The wolf will live with the lamb, the leopard will lie down with the goat, the calf and lion and yearling together; a little child will lead them.  The cow will feed with the bear, their young will lie down together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox.  Isa 11:6,7

This is the time frame when the weapons of war are transformed into tools for agriculture.  The 1000 year reign of Christ.

In Christ

Montana Marv

I am not agreeable because you did not stay in the same context. 

The context is the follow. They came over to war with the Christ of God and his people and along the way at some time there after they turned their weapons into tools to work the fields . And they joined the people who came to fight in their work in the field of Jesus Christ. 

Who are you Lord. It's me, It's 

In other words they were introduced to the Gospel from the people they came to fight against and at some time later they became their co-workers in the field of the Gospel.  

 

Edited Wednesday at 09:21 PM by Your closest friendnt